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Are TY DVD+R Disk Styles Merely Cosmetic or Do They Mean Differences in Quality
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emitati
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18. June 2006 @ 12:35 |
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On-line catalogues listing TY DVD+R disks invariably have many
styles to choose from such as inkjet such and such or white front, purple back etc., are these styles only cosmetic or do they make reference to different qualities of TY DVD+R disks?
Thanks in advance for any help . . .
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18. June 2006 @ 12:42 |
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The inkjet and white full hub printables are the same disks except the top is suited for printers to print labels on them. There is no difference in the quality except if you see something called value line or premium line. If they say nothing they are most likely premium line. The value line is a little bit worse, a 95 score instead of a 98. But that is extremely good compared to other brands. Hope this helped.
Jondrew
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18. June 2006 @ 13:52 |
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LOL
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The value line is a little bit worse, a 95 score instead of a 98.
not necessarily true, it's all dependent on your system/burner and appropriate firmware~ :) i can crank out CONSISTENT 97-98 scores on my VALUELINE TYs as frequently as i can with the premiumline, and SOMETIMES, the premiumline scores are lower... :)
depends from batch to batch, but other than that..the rest of your analysis is correct~ :)
docTY
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18. June 2006 @ 15:08 |
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Thanks for the correction, keep up the good work DocTY.
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18. June 2006 @ 15:11 |
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He's right, I've bought the value line 4x and they all burned great. But this new batch of 8x premiums only play on certain dvd players, while others read as "no disc".
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18. June 2006 @ 15:44 |
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It's the player. On one Sony player, you can hear it reading the disc but at a second longer compared to Verbatims. On a portable insignia player (which sucks), it totally struggles to read Verbatims but plays TYs fine.
On my phillips player, it just plays everything! Including the one or two CMCs I have (but those were purchased like 3 years ago when I first started this).
Latest AnyDVD to rip > VOBB to blank the unwanted on a DVD > Shrink to compress > ImgBurn to burn = Never starting a thread asking how to backup a movie
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19. June 2006 @ 01:56 |
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I, too have not had any decline in quality with the value line vs premium line TY. The only difference that I've noticed is slightly older batch numbers on the value line discs...
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19. June 2006 @ 04:21 |
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I have never used the -R disks and always used Taiyo Yuden's +R, 8x media...... I know that the -Rs are cheaper and my drive will or should be able to play them but I have been getting so much success with booktyping my +Rs that I would wonder if the -Rs are worth it? I have been getting 99.80% quality scores on my +Rs ...... would it be worth while to switch to the -Rs? According to my burner and my players they all are able to play the -Rs .....maybe I should experiment and buy just a few and see! what do you guys think..... should I fool around with a proven thing and see if I can save money and buy the -Rs instead of the +Rs?
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19. June 2006 @ 06:16 |
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Including the one or two CMCs I have (but those were purchased like 3 years ago when I first started this).
started the insanity? haha :p
BENQ 1620 / 1650
Pioneer 111L
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19. June 2006 @ 07:06 |
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@IHoe
They TY -R are excellent with the burners that I own (see profile). The +R are marginally better, but not that much better for me to pass up the -R deals at sms.com. I just ordered 300 more inkjet printables Friday for $98.99 plus free shipping!!! I have had ZERO compatibility issues on various players.
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System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD. |
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tashacat
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19. June 2006 @ 13:19 |
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teflonmyk, where do you get the 300 Ty's for $98.99. What is the website.
Thanks
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19. June 2006 @ 13:37 |
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supermediastore.com
Dropbox: http://db.tt/p5P9bH1d
System 1: Core2Quad Q6600 O/Ced @ 3.15 GHz, Gigabyte GA EP35 DS4 mobo, Zalman 9700, 4GB PC6400 RAM, Sapphire Radeon 2600HD Pro, Samsung 920BW 19" Widescreen LCD, Hauppauge! PVR-350.
System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD. |
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tashacat
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19. June 2006 @ 13:42 |
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Thanks a butt, ugh I mean bunch.
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19. June 2006 @ 14:34 |
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@teflonmyk.... I'll just have to see how good those -Rs are... will order more from supermediastore.com and a new storage case with it. Going over 1300 movies now.
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19. June 2006 @ 21:44 |
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@IHoe
it's never a bad thing to try the two different formats of DVD-R and the DVD+R, the quality on the Taiyo Yudens is consistent in BOTH formats~ :)
besides, to save a few bucks for the DVD-R, your wallet will thank you~ :) i'm a DVD+R booktyped to dvd-rom guy MYSELF, but i do still use DVD-R TYs for my picky Toshiba standalones that ironically REFUSE to play my dvd-rom YUDEN000T02s/YUDEN000T03s/MCC003/MCC004 ..strange i know~ :)
anyways, not to hinder your success in burning DVD+R TYs, but your score of 99.80% quality score is NOT accurate because your drive does not support PIF scanning...however minute or large the discrepency MAY be, IF your drive supported PIF scanning, your quality scores will undoubtedly be lower once the PIF totals are factored in...i'm not trying to rain on your parade as you seem to have had great success with 8x DVD+R YUDEN000T02s (excellent choice of media btw), just wanted to point out that your Philips drive (rebadged Benq 1620 if i'm not mistaken) does not take into account the PIF errors because it does not support this feature when tallying up your quality score... :)
great choice of media you use, very good drive/burner you using, just lacking in the "scanning dept" to give you an ACCURATE score; i'm guessing IF it did support PIF scanning, you would STILL be in the mid to high 90s for quality~ :) hope you don't take this the wrong way, i wish you CONTINUED success in your TY burns...in either DVD-R OR DVD+R format, or both :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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20. June 2006 @ 02:52 |
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I would never take your advise the wrong way. I don't know why my drive won't take PIF scanning but I won't go out and buy a new drive just for that feature. As long as the DVDs play in all the players I own and the drive keeps up the good work I will keep on burning with it. In the future, and when my drive finally deteriorates to the point that needs replacement, then I'll buy a lightscribe Benque that does support the PIF scanning and get more accurate reading on my scans. but untill then...........
I have to get more Taiyo Yuden disks and I guess it's time to try out the -Rs and see for myself. I need a new case anyways sooooooo off to supermediastore.com I go!
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20. June 2006 @ 03:43 |
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but I won't go out and buy a new drive just for that feature. As long as the DVDs play in all the players I own and the drive keeps up the good work I will keep on burning with it.
most definitely! as long as it works and works well (burning wise) no need to get a new burner, the drive you have now is a Benq, even with 1000+ burns, still got a LOT of life left (i've easily put 2,000+ burns on my old Benq 1640, still going strong...only a few hundred on my new 1650...breaking her in slowly~) :)
i didn't want to seem like i was "burstin your bubble" in the slightest/least bit, that was not my intention...just pointing out a FACT in terms of the whole "quality scanning" thing... :)
may you have continued fantastic success w/ your drive and your NEW TYs...good luck, not like you will need it~ :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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20. June 2006 @ 04:13 |
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thank DocTY! I just put my order in.... with free ground shipping it's a bargain!
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20. June 2006 @ 05:14 |
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I can assure you that it's DEFINITLEY a bargain. This is my second round of 300 since they started offering this deal... I am fast approaching 1500 burns!!!
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System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD. |
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20. June 2006 @ 07:46 |
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I slowed down a bit.....I am over 1300 now, still need that new case and more media! it's on order now! LOL
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tashacat
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20. June 2006 @ 08:22 |
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Ihoe, I notice that you have a Dell G4 XPS 400 Extreme Edition.
Is that the same as Dell XPS 400?
I am thinking of getting a new Dell XPS 400 with about the same options as yours except for the 48x CD-RW Drive + 16x DVD+/-RW
Also the Pentium® D Processor 940. How do you like yours?
I copy mostly movies and work in Photoshop. I use the Ty media now and my success rate is about 99%.
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20. June 2006 @ 10:12 |
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all I can say is ...... I love my machine and it's working like it is new and I get 100%! quality scores of 99.80% but my Philips 8631 doesn't take into account PIF errors.... soooo the score, according to Mort, maybe a little lower:
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20. June 2006 @ 13:39 |
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soooo the score, according to Mort, maybe a little lower:
my buddy Mort81 told ya before I did? wow, he IS a fast one... hehehe
or if you were mistaken, i'm glad you had me mixed up w/ Mort81..he's a very sincere, GOOD guy in my book~ :) LOL
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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21. June 2006 @ 03:00 |
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actually Mort told me about a month ago....... and you confirmed it. I don't care but I do feel cheated with the burner that does a scan with DVDInfo Pro and can't really rely on the quality score becase the PIF errors are not recorded because of the drive. So that makes scanning my disks inaccurate. Oh well..... but every thing else works great! At least I'm thankful for that!
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21. June 2006 @ 04:57 |
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actually Mort told me about a month ago....... and you confirmed it.
if ANYONE would beat me to the punch, it's def. Mort81~ i give him ALL the credit as he was THE ONE who introduced me to DVD+R and booktyping when i first started out~ :) (i had been using DVD-R format for YEARS before he "opened my eyes" to the joys of DVD+R and bitsetting)
i have not looked back since for MY OWN backups, i will only use DVD+R booktyped dvd-rom; for my family and friends, i will use DVD-R format if they own a Toshiba standalone that i find "picky" w/ media~ :)
anyways, before i go off on a 2 page rant, just wanted to let ya know that even MY humble beginnings with DVD+R format, began with Mort81 taking the time to help me out and teach me how to bitset~ :)
once again, teacher-student friendship that has grown leaps and bounds since the first day...we still keep in touch, learn from each other in many diff. fields from computer hardware, media, home theater, electronics, and anything else interesting under the sun hehehe...and i am grateful for his opinions and knowledge that he has shared with me :)
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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