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Ipod factory admits to violating labor laws
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article published on 26 June, 2006
Last week, the leader in portable music devices, Apple denied to the press that it was in any violation of labor laws for their production factories based in China. Hon Hai Precision Industry's Foxconn factory, production partner for Apple's iPod, has now stepped up to the plate and admitted to keeping workers under unfair conditions. It seems the factory turned its back on Chinese law and ... [ read the full article ]
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26. June 2006 @ 11:38 |
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ha ha ha ha,no shit,thats why your thier to violate Globlale laws and get that low low low labor!!
fing morons >< why else do they go to thos contries.....sheesh.......
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GrayArea
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26. June 2006 @ 12:01 |
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I'm no Apple fan, but to single them out is kinda dumb. These factories manufacture & assemble hundreds of your faviorite brands of luxury consumer goods. I seriously doubt the Foxconn factory is worse than most others in China.
If you are worried about your iPod being politically incorrect you better take a look around the rest of your house, and your office, and that restaurant you like, and the...
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26. June 2006 @ 12:36 |
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Very valid points GrayArea. Should Apple be singled out? Probably not. However, the fact that Apple's being investigated in the first place and this incident is being brought to light means that all these little things like this will be scrutinized to death. The media is a strange place. Turn a blind eye to global problems and focus on the now. A month from now, no one will remember this happened.
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26. June 2006 @ 13:15 |
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ahhhhh the joys of living in a commusist country.
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26. June 2006 @ 15:30 |
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any one want to take a bet Microsofts anousncement of Itune and Ipod clone give you a hint now that apples have the intel chipset you can work on a mac and play on windows xp and never buy another system other then a apple.... nuff said ......(but for those who arnt old enough it was Bill Gates who stole from Steve Jobs along time ago to build microsoft.......
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26. June 2006 @ 15:36 |
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I knew it. I knew it. I knew it! Next up on the labor list: Microsoft! Just kidding. Maybe...
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26. June 2006 @ 16:30 |
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This is a ice berg with its tip above water,and apple just happens to be near the top of that tip (with 2000% of it below the water)...so tis going to be picked on more,hell everythign is made in china.....even the other asain palces like tawain are going in china mode with fcked up qauilty....*sigh*
Anythign you bay almost has a 0-3 chance of going back and being repalced I had a fun tiem with Abit motherboards these last 2 years.....it got so bad I got "the best" mobo I could find a DFI mobo it might be the msot ficklest thing when it comes to ramm but the preforamcne and stabilty are great (NF3 ultra) the NF4 mobos are still fickle....and I still ahve a AGP card....so not much a choice of qauilty nf4-agp mobos..I think the ast agp for DFI was the nf3 boards ;_;
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26. June 2006 @ 16:47 |
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this might sound racist but none intended but only the damn chinese the smartest dumb people on earth again no disrespect
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26. June 2006 @ 17:04 |
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-I left my ipod out in the orchard, and when I came back, it had a freshly picked basket of apples.
-These ipods work for a few hours, then just lay around the rest of the day.
-No wonder "La Cucaracha" was already pre-loaded on my nano.
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26. June 2006 @ 20:46 |
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WHy are they not after NIKE, i bet over 100 people died by exhaustion from making air force ones when the song came on the radio by nelly
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26. June 2006 @ 20:46 |
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WHy are they not after NIKE, i bet over 100 people died by exhaustion from making air force ones when the song came on the radio by nelly
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26. June 2006 @ 20:52 |
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I wouldnt say that a desent amount of the mexicans do alot of hellish work for hourson end for no pay,a good bit of normal imagrants do to just to do well enough to get thier kids into collage ormake a family bissness that would last,if anyhtign I think more normal americans cop out of work 0-o
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26. June 2006 @ 21:29 |
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Well to me when it says "Made in China" ussually means to me that hard labour was part of it. Any third world country for that matter.
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27. June 2006 @ 05:07 |
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I find it very ODD that if you break the law, we go to jail. If they break the law, bad publiclity. Let me rip DRM protection and FBI will come knocking. Work people to death, nothing happens. Hmmm strange....
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27. June 2006 @ 08:22 |
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GrayArea has a great point. Look around your house and see for yourself how many of our everyday things are made in China. And why... because if they were made in America they would cost 10x as much and most of us are not willing to pay that for them. Where if the products are made overseas, the amount of money it cost to make or assemble these same products drops considerabely because these unfortunate people have to work their asses off just to be able to put food on their tables. It's a shame in a country like the USA, people are always complaning about how much they make but don't think twice about what is going on around the rest of the world.
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27. June 2006 @ 09:34 |
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The fact that they're made in China already implies to me that the workers are already being treated badly, so that's no big surprise. Basically, the Chinese work for next to nothing. Almost all the non-food items we buy were made in China. Back in the day, when Clinton opened up trade gateways with China, he made it sound like China would be buying our goods, but really it was the other way around. We send raw materials there, and they send back consumer goods, which means they're getting all our money. A few hundred years ago, England did the same thing with India, buying the Indian cotton, and taking it back to England to make textiles (clothing) and then selling it back to the Indians at a mark-up. Watch the PBS Frontline episode about China and Wal-Mart, to get a better scope of this scenario. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/walmart/view/
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27. June 2006 @ 12:46 |
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BWAAHAHAHAHA , wut munx said
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27. June 2006 @ 21:45 |
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This is price paid for communism, I sound repetitious with that sentence.
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27. June 2006 @ 22:51 |
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"I'm no Apple fan, but to single them out is kinda dumb."-
Agreed
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28. June 2006 @ 08:46 |
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Saw this coming after i read about the other article...wonder what will become of this...
probably nothing much as it will be kept hush hush
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28. June 2006 @ 10:14 |
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Anyways, it was bound to happen sooner or later, if not apple, someone else. Let's look at the U.S. for example with EA games, they overwork their employees, and don't pay their wages on time. So I guess, it boils down to cheap corporations trying to save a buck.
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29. June 2006 @ 15:13 |
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Im not an apple fun but US companies are there to exploit slave labor in china. The problem is IPOD should be alot cheaper because of slave labor in china. Just like nike they also have slave labor camps but I'll be damned if I'll buy a nike shoes for $120 and costing them only $10 to make.
And guys STOP buying chinese goods. We are feeding the chinese communist military. china is still an enemy NOT an allie of US. Buy goods made in Taiwan, Korea and even from India. When I buy computer parts I make sure they are not made in china and when they are I return them. Every CENT you spent on a chinese goods the chinese communist military gets audacious. Think about that ................
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29. June 2006 @ 21:20 |
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Trade is possible if one country has a comparative advantage over another in producing something. Both countries benefit from trade. China's comparative advantage comes from it's low wages and longer working weeks.
Although this seems like slave labour, this has been the source of China's massive economic growth. It has actually improved the lives of many Chinese people.
kfir1, although China is a communist country, it has ditched it's centrally planned economy, as was in accordance with communism and socialism, and has adopted a free market system as is seen in democratic countries. The media now seems to refer to China's political system as "One Party Rule".
I would speculate that the world's largest army is largely useless because China stands to gain more from trade than from war. It is only when trade is severed that problems will arise.
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30. June 2006 @ 01:58 |
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SO makeing china a better palce is worth makeing the US into a 3rd world contry?
The US needs balance in its trade policys but sicne thier is little blaance in anythign the goverment dose thier selling everything away...
You have a point unless china gets a war happy leader china will be happy with corpate profits,with that said its not to far fetched to say the US could be paying them off to simpley avoid war....but I wonder if its worth the screwed up econimy we have,look at hidden inflation,unchangeing low wages,hidden unemployment...it all adds up it sickness me to think that we are gong thru a new kind of depresstion,,,thigns are bad could be much worse thigns are getting there tho...and thigns are far from being rosey as the slight of hand republicans have us think....soemtiems I wish teh dems would get off thier ass's and do soemthign in sted of walk around ike a headless chiken(not a pun I side with the devs on alot of isssues but hell theyve becoem mindless politions) when I stop and look at the dem leaders.....forget it...even with a head a mindless polition is still mindless we need more partys at least in a multi party system one has to be better 0-o
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30. June 2006 @ 04:46 |
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ZIppyDSM, you misunderstand. Trade with China does not make the US into a third world country. The US as whole benefits from trade. Americans enjoy not only cheaper products, but also more products - price is lower, demand increases, more bought/sold.
Sure jobs are lost in the importables sector, however these people then find jobs in the exportables sector. For example designing iPods rather than making them. Unknowingly, resources are allocated to where they are most efficiently used. Both countries then end up with more of everything.
Yes, ZIppyDSM it is better to have multiple parties because as George Orwell wrote, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. However, there is nothing to be gained by forcefully imposing this on China ;)
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