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for those who use Taiyo yuden which do u prefer-R +R
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1. July 2006 @ 16:15 |
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i am asking this question because i am going to buy some printable TYs and the -R's are cheaper then the +R's.
i have been using printable TDK's for awhile now have not had any problems but after i watched my backup of constatine the were spots in the movie where it froze a little bit. now i am wondering if all my backups over time will turn out this way.
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1. July 2006 @ 16:32 |
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it's a good decision you made from going from TDK (which i PERSONALLY detest) to Taiyo Yudens... :)
as to which I prefer, i like the DVD+R format because my drives are capable of bitsetting/booktyping DVD+R to dvd-rom, yes, they are more expensive online compared to the DVD-R, but if your drive is capable, i would highly recommend the YUDEN000T02s (8x DVD+R MID coded)...
if not, the TYG02 inkjet-printables are very good too (8x DVD-R TYs)...depends on the user...good luck, you can't go wrong with either for the most part, it's a step UP from those darn TDKs (sorry, i'm biased because TDKs own manufactured media has been HORRIBLE for me, nothing but problems) :)
docTY
p.s. whether or not ur other backups will turn out this way, maybe or maybe not, if they are important to you, i would get them over to TYs IF YOU STILL CAN, that's just MY opinion on the matter...
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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1. July 2006 @ 18:15 |
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Yes, I agree with Doc TY. The DVD+Rs are a little better especially if you booktype them to DVD-ROM because that makes more players be able to read the disks correctly. Also, you can find regular TYs, Not printable TYs sadly, in spindles of Sony 8x Blank DVD Media if on the spindle it says Made in Japan. Also the same goes for 8x Fuji as well, however the 8x media is being phased out and late in the transition period so finding those may take some calling and gas. Also in the 16x Sony +R Media you can find TYs if They are Made in Japan and in the inside of the top of the cakebox there is a spaceron top of the disks, for TYs it will be White and Rectangular, if it is grey and circular it is Sonys house brand. (Decent Media but TYs are so much better). One more thing, if you find 16x MIJ Fuji dvds, they are not tys, they are RicohJapan coded disks, although those are good as well.
Edit: If you want to find them cheap the Sonys will be 14.99 starting tomorrow at Best Buy plus anywhere that will pricematch that price.
Jondrew
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Also in the 16x Sony +R Media you can find TYs if They are Made in Japan and in the inside of the top of the cakebox there is a spaceron top of the disks, for TYs it will be White and Rectangular, if it is grey and circular it is Sonys house brand. (Decent Media but TYs are so much better).
just outta curiousity, have YOU PERSONALLY found any of the Sony 16x DVD+R MIJ with the rectangular + white spacer locally yet? so far, i have YET TO HEAR of ANYONE getting the YUDEN000T03s under the Sony "brand" of media...
i am not doubting your claims as to "what to look for" when looking thru Sony branded MIJ media, but i haven't seen 1 person yet get Taiyo Yudens from a Sony pack of 16x DVD+R MIJ~ :) the same is NOT true for the 16x dvd-r MIJs, many reports of TYG03s (i have a pack myself of Sony 16x DVD-R that are TYG03s)... :)
just curious as to whether you have had luck PERSONALLY in ur area of finding these "so-called" YUDEN000T03s under the Sony brand...so far, this "claim" (not by only you, but MANY others) is only a MYTH, all Sony brand 16x DVD+R MIJ/MIT SO FAR has been Sony's own "house brand" (MID SonyD21) as you call it~
i can easily be proven WRONG in my assessment of "NO TAIYO YUDENS under the SONY brand of 16x dvd+rs" when SOMEONE actually gets their hands on some and proves it, then i will bite my tongue and shut up :) LOL
docTY
p.s. this reply of mine is meant in NO WAY to attack your credibility or your knowledge of the subject/media, i have just not seen ANYONE prove the whole "taiyo yuden making 16x DVD+R MIJ under Sony brand" yet, until proven, it is only a MYTH that was conjured up by someone trying to gain attention here in the media section of the forums or some other forums... :)
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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2. July 2006 @ 09:50 |
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Doc, that was a perfectly valid question as I have only heard that they have been spotted, I havent personally had any at all and Im beginning to wonder as you are because I combed through Three best Buys, a Circuit City, Office Depot, Officemax, and CompUSA only to find no MIJ 16x at all, including Sony MIJ house brand, none. I would really like to find someone using those and scan a picture of the disc with the TY inner ring code. I even checked Videohelp.com for the media code for Sony 16x +R and all they had was SonyD21. Also, while searching it seems as though Sony is now making DL Media according to Videohelp and it codes out as MKM 001 if you can find it, as I havent ever seen it myself. They had the 16x Media code for the -r TYS 16x Though. Also something else interesting is that some of Sony -r 16x coded out to be TTH02. Have you heard anything about this? I remember you saying you personally disliked this media correct? The guy that bought it was from Luxembourg so hopefully they dont start sending those here.
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2. July 2006 @ 10:53 |
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I have a friend that got some of the 16x TY's and he says they aren't quite as good as the 02's. I figure it's kind of like the Verbatim's, the 003 Verb's are much better in my opinion and the 004's(16x) are still kind of hit and miss.
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2. July 2006 @ 18:56 |
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Are those the TY +rs in Sony Spindles? Thats what we were trying to locate. Also, I personally dont use 16x media because im short on cash and my 8x Burner gives really bad scores when burning the MCC-04s ( I havent been able to find the 16x TYs locally or i would try them). It really depends on how new your burner is and your setup (computer, program used etc.).
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2. July 2006 @ 19:14 |
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Also something else interesting is that some of Sony -r 16x coded out to be TTH02. Have you heard anything about this? I remember you saying you personally disliked this media correct? The guy that bought it was from Luxembourg so hopefully they dont start sending those here.
that's just too bad, even if it IS in Luxembourg...LOL, yah, i PERSONALLY detest TDK's own manufactured media, the TTG01/TTG02/TTH01/TTH02/TDK001/TDK002/TDK003, u catch my drift...LOL. i, among others, have had very poor success with these, it's a PERSONAL opinion of course, but if someone asks me for advice, i would NEVER recommend TDK's OWN media (because i am well aware that Taiyo Yuden manufactured media for TDK as well, so, not ALL of their media is "bad" IN MY OPINION) :)
yeah, it's beginning to make me wonder about the YUDEN000T03s under the Sony brand (16x DVD+R), if it's EVEN AVAILABLE as you mentioned earlier, i haven't check nearly as many local retailers as you have, but my limited searching has uncovered NOTHING along those lines :)
there has been 1 single report of YUDEN000T03s under TDK's 16x DVD+R MIJ (ironic isn't it?), but i don't know if that was a fluke or just another member who was not very knowledgeable about MID codings and such and just threw a fabrication in there to gain some attention...also, this report was also from Poland, in a 10-pack spindle...i got NO CLUE as to what media is available in that country...LOL...seems like a "fluke" to me, who knows? LOL
anyways, i'll report in my own docTY Taiyo Yuden thread if anyone finds a Sony branded 16x DVD+R that is in fact YUDEN000T03, but so far, nothing as of today :( lemme know if YOU find some actual PROOF of the "claim" as well, it would be very helpful to the knowledge-base of everyone else here interested in the new 16x DVD+R Taiyo Yudens IF found locally...
have a good one
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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3. July 2006 @ 07:14 |
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I was looking for Sony 50 packs +r's at Best Buy yesterday. They were all made in Taiwan. But I did buy Sony 16x SccuCORE -r's made in Japan. The label code is 50dmr47ls4. The cap on the top of the spindle is white octagon shaped.
Anyone know what these are?
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3. July 2006 @ 10:22 |
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Edit: If you want to make sure they are TYs, you could use Imgburn or DVDinfopro.
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But I did buy Sony 16x SccuCORE -r's made in Japan. The label code is 50dmr47ls4. The cap on the top of the spindle is white octagon shaped.
Anyone know what these are?
my guess is Taiyo Yuden 16x DVD-R with the "TYG03" MID coding :) hehehe, but run it through imgburn or dvdinfopro as Jondrew suggested, that will tell you immediately :) i bet i guessed right...
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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5. July 2006 @ 06:30 |
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I've been using -R for single layer discs & so far they all work fine in 3 computers & 2 DVD players (for movie backup) plus data discs. First was a pack of 16x Memorex (coded as Rirek F-1) that I got for Christmas then a pack of 8x Ritek (ridata) followed by some MIT & MIJ 8x Sony's. No need for me to buy single layer +r as the -r works well for me. All the double layer I've burned (movie backups) was Verbatim 2.4 - 6x (burned at 2.4x) & that has worked well too.
TY media is supposed to be the greatest stuff (next to Verbatim) you can buy. I'm planning to order some from Supermediastore ion the next few days...
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5. July 2006 @ 08:41 |
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wssup all, just order my first pack of TYs from super media store, hope that they are real, TYs it said on the website they were an authorized dealer of TYs.
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5. July 2006 @ 21:01 |
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they're genuine, no worries from supermediastore.com :)
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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6. July 2006 @ 18:54 |
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I believe he said he got them at Walmart...he said there were bunches of the - but not a one MIJ in the + flavor
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6. July 2006 @ 19:23 |
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@ironD
i was responding to his RECENT purchase from supermediastore.com as he stated here:
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wssup all, just order my first pack of TYs from super media store, hope that they are real, TYs it said on the website they were an authorized dealer of TYs.
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docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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8. July 2006 @ 15:11 |
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@ docTY,
hey i was just wondering why u personaly detest the TDK's
the reason i am asking is because in this media guide they have them rated in the top 5 media http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
anyway i was just curious why, as u know i have been using them with the last 150 or so burns and all of them have came out great and worked good until that one backup(constatine) i watched and it was spotty, i havent been able 2 watch any older backups yet but i will have to see if other are like that. BTW one thing about the TDK's thats weird 2 me is that they are 16x speed but when burning in Nero the only supported speed is 4x. LOL
anyway i went and got some 16x +R printable verbs and have been burning at 8x and they all have came out great.
question though about the TYs, i ordered the 8x speed and was wondering that would it be better to burn at 4x or 8x.
asking because i thought that a good rule for burning speeds is half of what it says on box
sorry that this is soooo long
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You know I just got a couple of spindles of Sony's--TO2's and I was really surprised to see the number. I don't think I have seen any TG000041's in a long time. Most of the time I see TG001162, or 56...or was that 59, ah can't remember.ha ha. Anyone else seen any of these older disc's lately, the funny thing is the package said 2005?
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Hi!I'm not the Doc but i think i'm gonna answer your question about which speed you can burn your 8x TY,since i asked the same question to Doc in the past and now i'm just passing it to you.
First of all,it's true that a good burning rule is to burn at half the stated speed of the media.But there are some exceptions where you can burn them at the same speed,meaning burn 4x at 4x and 8x at 8x and these exceptions are when you use good quality medias and in your case i would say that it won't matter if you burn your 8x media at the same speed since you're gonna use the Taiyo media(which i consider the best).For less good quality medias,then it would be more advisable for you to reduce the speed by half as the good rule.
However if you use the 16x media,then better burn them on 8x(even if it's top quality media,but it all depends on you whether you're in a hurry or not while burning)
About the problems you encountered with your TDK medias,you answered to your own question and as you can see while using top notch quality medias like Verbatim and Taiyo,the difference is so easy and simple to notice.Good quality medias won't let you down!!!
@ironD
My verbatims code out same as you use to see,i.e TG001162.But your sony coding TG000041,if i guess well,it's just simply an earlier batch.It is possible that you get older batches even if the packing was done recently.It all depends on the manufacturing company,which batch they are taking out of their stock,may be they were clearing their older stock,but these remain excellent ones though.So no need to worry about that!
Vincent.
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8. July 2006 @ 22:24 |
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in regards to your TDK question, i typed out a horror story in my own docTY Taiyo Yuden thread long time ago because MANY people were curious as to why i hate TDK so much, i know on your own, it would have been literally IMPOSSIBLE to find doing a search, but here it is, i found it because i wrote it :)
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/6/296925
TY4ever is my newest aspiring "student" you could say, he covered the bases pretty well if i do say so myself, nice job TY4Ever :)
as to what ONE MEDIA GUIDE says compared to another, they are ALL biased/inaccurate in their own way...i've been one of those members who "put down" digitalfaq in the past, but they have updated it so i give them credit for that; however, MANY of THEIR "opinions/ratings" on media are FAR from my OWN "rankings" of media, as is true with EVERYONE's "preferences" on media here on AfterDawn, some people HATE Taiyo Yuden, some people HATE Verbatims, some people LOVE CMC MAG Memorex, we all have the "right" to our own OPINIONS...
as i've mentioned before countless times in the past, use digitalfaq as a "guideline"...what they SAY and their "ranking system" is ONLY A GUIDE, just because their OPINION on specific media and manufacturers vary with my OWN OPINIONS in terms of quality, it doesn't make THEM RIGHT and ME WRONG! or vice versa!
i'm come to respect them for THEIR OPINIONS on media, but they are FAR from perfect and everyone has a right to criticize based on PERSONAL experience...they are NOT the "last word/etched in stone" reference to all things media, i can assure you of that...
just realize that some people WILL DISAGREE and some will follow digitalfaq and worship the website as if they were GODs of media, you can personally choose your own path to take, i see so many people link others to that site for a quick reference to media, absolutely NOTHING wrong with that, but take their OPINIONS/RANKINGS with a grain of salt, they are far from being COMPLETELY accurate based on their own "testing procedures" and what their staff have actually "tried/used" :) while i admit they are pretty comprehensive, they still have their "OPINIONS/RANKINGS" that i do not agree with, and MANY others with REAL WORLD experiences on said media will agree with me...you can't dispute REAL WORLD experience from members all around the world, you can debate "hypothetical batch discrepencies" and "fanboy BS" all day long, big difference between what is FACT and OPINION, just takes a little time and patience to be able to discern between the two~ :) good day to you...don't be mislead into believing something someone says on the internet or from a website, simply because they "claim" to be an "expert;" learn to decipher the REAL FACTS from the BS, references are all good and dandy, but learn to find the credibility of the SOURCE of said information....that's MY lesson on media 101 :)
docTY
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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8. July 2006 @ 22:43 |
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Just trying to help Doc,i know you're very busy out there and guess that sometimes you need some rest,being a doctor,i guess is not something that any ordinary person can become.Really i appreciate what you do in real life and also for all the contributions you bring here at AD!
So if i see that i can cover some bases for you,i'll try to do them right and well.I'm not trying to put myself at the same level as you,but as being your "aspiring student"(haha,i like this word!),i'll try to bring some light where needed.But please do correct me if you see that i'm wrong in any of my suggestion or advice.I'll learn from my mistakes.
Vincent.
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@TY4ever
that's what we here are all about, helping out and picking up where the "regulars/other members" can't seem to find the time to assist~ :)
i'm a fairly busy person myself, so i usually make the MOST of my time on here and help someone whether it be in 5 min. or a few hours, depending on how my time is budgeted...
you're doing a fine job and i want to thank YOU for helping where you see fit, it's appreciated by me and many others that need a bit of help to cover all the various topics people have questions on...
i "correct" people quite frequently, but it is never in a demeaning way, we ALL make mistakes, make false assumptions, don't quite get all the FACTS straight; myself included...so, it's about sharing the knowledge you possess and learn from others that have MORE experience than you in a particular field/subject~ :) i learn something new myself almost DAILY, there is SO MUCH out there i have no knowledge/experience of, that's where everyone else comes in to "enlighten" me and teach me what they know~
give and take experience here, lot of VERY knowledgeable members gather here in their own area of "expertise", few BAD APPLES too! every basket has a few of those, LOL. :)
i'm glad you have found a very sincere attitude in helping others and sharing the wealth of knowledge you've picked up here and from your own personal experiences, you've been OFFICIALLY promoted in my "TY ARMY" today and may you continue to rise among the ranks~ :)
good day to you all
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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Thanks for the reply TY4ever........Oh yeah I have burned some of them and they are great. I guess I was more than anything else, thinking out loud....ha ha if that makes any sense. In fact I was kind of pleased to see one of the older numbers.....on the negative side, it probably means that they are getting to the bottom of the barrel of the back stock of the 02's....just a guess on my part.
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