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noles
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19. July 2006 @ 20:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been using your forums as a resource for some time. I've searched and read and I am stumped...

I've had an Aopen burner for about a year when I began to get Power Clibration errors when burning. We tried firmware updates, different software (Decrypter and Nero). Then I realized (thanks to your forums!) the burner wouldn't burn a CD or read a DVD either. After reading many of your Clibration error posts we opted to get a new burner, since the old one wouldn't read anymore. Now I'm hoping this was the right move...

The new burner is an Aopen DUW 1616L Pro. In Decrypter I would change the book type to DVD-ROM so the DVDs would play on all our players. With this new burner I can't seem to change the book type. When I would change the book type on my old burner I would change the book-type using Ricoh, with the new burner I get "current setting: unknown (failed)". I'm using Maxell DVD+R 8x media. I've used this media for over a year with never a problem. Is there another way to change the book type that I'm missing or am I stuck with an un-ROM-able burner?

I really appreciate any help (and your forums!).
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19. July 2006 @ 21:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi noles.

I am no means an expert at burner identification. However, it appears that your burner could either be a rebadged Benq or most likely a Liteon. If this is the case, then maybe you would consider cross-flashing to the OEM version. Both Liteon's and Benq's support booktyping, and both offer booktype utilities that you can download from their Website.

See this thread:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=165771

And this thread:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=177616

According to the link just above, your burner is a Liteon 1635S, with firmware available at the link below.

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2141

Remember, cross flashing your drive will void the warranty and could possibly cause the burner to stop responding. Do at your own risk.

Let us know how it all works out...

PC: 2.8GHZ PIV, 120 GB HD, 1 GIG ECC RAM, GeForce FX 5600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2

CD Burner/DVD Reader: Lite-On LTC-48161H - Firmware KHOR
DVD Burner: BenQ 1640 - Firmware BSRB

Learn more about blank DVD media: http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
Booktyping/Bitsetting Explained: http://www.booktypefaq.com/
Will your standalone DVD player handle your backups? http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php

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noles
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20. July 2006 @ 04:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks DVDNoobie for the quick response. Will keep you posted...
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20. July 2006 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
noles,

Your drive is a rebadged lite-on http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDnameid=1614&Search=Sea... Try selecting lite-on in DVD Decrypter or try using the liteon booktype utility. Here's a link to the lite-on booktype utility http://www.liteonit.com/global/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=153 Here's a link to a guide http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=109986#media-bs A crossflash is probably not necessary.

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noles
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20. July 2006 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Mort81,
I tried within Decrytper to change the book type using the Lite-on tab, no luck. I also tried the Lite-on utility. It wouldn't allow a change in book type. It showed the current disc and book types as DVD+R but the change book type was grayed out. My guess is the utility doesn't work on my model.

Anyway, one of your links mentions OmniPatcher. Are you familiar with? I'm not looking at cross flashing the drive, I'd just assume return this one an get one I can burn correctly.

I do appreciate your help... everyones!
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20. July 2006 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
noles,

Omnipatcher will work with some lite-on models but it is really more for changing write strategies. If the lite-on booktype utility won't work, I doubt omnipatcher will. Another option you can try is the booktype utility in dvdinfopro http://www.dvdinfopro.com/

If you decide to exchange your drive for a different model/brand, I would highly recommend a benq DW1650 or DW1655. I like my litey but like my benq even more. Both my benq and my litey have their own booktype utility's but benq has Qsuite which incorperates even more features than just bitsetting. Lite-on has a utility called smartburn that incorperates the features that are in qsuite but does not include the booktype utility in it. You have to dl and use the lite-on booktype utility seperate from smartburn.

They both have their advantages but my benq is quit a bit faster at ripping. About 4 min on average for a pressed DL dvd.

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20. July 2006 @ 10:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another wall... When I went to set the book type within DVDInfoPro It says 'it seems your drive does not support bitsetting.' All drives definitely are not created equal!!!

Thanks again for your help.
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20. July 2006 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just curious noles, are you concerned about cross flashing the drive?

PC: 2.8GHZ PIV, 120 GB HD, 1 GIG ECC RAM, GeForce FX 5600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2

CD Burner/DVD Reader: Lite-On LTC-48161H - Firmware KHOR
DVD Burner: BenQ 1640 - Firmware BSRB

Learn more about blank DVD media: http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
Booktyping/Bitsetting Explained: http://www.booktypefaq.com/
Will your standalone DVD player handle your backups? http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php
noles
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20. July 2006 @ 14:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah. I can figure out how, just that I've read many people having problems afterwards. And with a burner I just got yesterday, I don't want any headaches. My heads already spinning!
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20. July 2006 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
noles,

Can you send the drive back for an exchange or get your money back? I realize you will be out shipping (if you ordered it) but you shouldn't have to settle for a drive you're not happy with. Here's a benq DW1650 for $28 free shipping. http://www.meritline.com/benq-dw-1650-16x-dvd-burner.html

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20. July 2006 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@noles

Mort81's advice is good. If you can return it, by all means do so. I'm a happy Benq user myself, and $28 for a Benq 1650 is a good price. It will booktype out of the box.

I've cross flashed a number of drives for friends and family. It's just as easy as updating firmware - nothing complex about it.

I read in the link I previously posted that a person was having a problem with your exact Aopen drive and it was corrected by cross flashing. See quote below.
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My two drives took the cross-flash to a 1635S with joy and are now performing much better. Thanks for all the info.
Anyway, firmware for OEM drives is typically available quicker then from the companies that rebadge.

Good luck in anycase...

PC: 2.8GHZ PIV, 120 GB HD, 1 GIG ECC RAM, GeForce FX 5600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2

CD Burner/DVD Reader: Lite-On LTC-48161H - Firmware KHOR
DVD Burner: BenQ 1640 - Firmware BSRB

Learn more about blank DVD media: http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
Booktyping/Bitsetting Explained: http://www.booktypefaq.com/
Will your standalone DVD player handle your backups? http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php
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