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why are dvd's are taking so long to copy?
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jvostler
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12. August 2006 @ 21:14 |
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I used to be able to copy dvd'd in a couple of hours at the most, now, it seems like it is taking me 7-11hours, what am I doing wrong? Any suggestions? I use AnyDVD, DVDIdle, and whatever it takes such as DVD Shrink along with dvdfab decryptor or dvd decryptor
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12. August 2006 @ 23:07 |
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Hi jvostler
1st let's check and make sure all your drives are in DMA mode and not the slooow PIo Mode. Under 'current transfer mode' you should see something like ' ultra dma mode 5'
Here's a link to help:
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking%20DMA.pdf
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13. August 2006 @ 05:57 |
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^^^ This is usually the culprit.
Latest AnyDVD to rip > VOBB to blank the unwanted on a DVD > Shrink to compress > ImgBurn to burn = Never starting a thread asking how to backup a movie
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jvostler
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14. August 2006 @ 07:31 |
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I had done my checking, after I sent my note I found the thread about checking the primary and secondary drives so I did that. The primary was both Ultra dma mode 4 but the secondary the top one said not applicable so it was neither. The bottom was Ultra dma mode 1. What is the difference between those modes? Is it ok for the one to say NA? Anyway I went ahead and uninstalled and let my my machine reinstall but it stayed the same so I tried reinstalling the dvd player. There was still no difference. I did the ususal deleting of the cookies and files and disk cleanup and defragmentation so what next?
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jvostler
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14. August 2006 @ 07:44 |
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I think I just unsubcribed from this link which I did not mean to do so what next?
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14. August 2006 @ 16:26 |
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On the primary channel you have 2 drives connected - one is usually the hard drive. Is the 2nd one a hard drive or another drive (dvd-rom, dvd writer etc).
For the secondary channel you have the drive set on the slave connector - and nothing on the master. That would be why n/a is on the top one.
Ultra DMA Mode 1 is a slower transfer mode of DMA.
You unintalled the drive also?
What's the make of model of your drive? Can check the transfer rates that it supports.
What's changed since these decrease in speed?
What are your pc specs?
Last question :) - does it take this long now for all backups you do - or just certain ones?
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jvostler
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14. August 2006 @ 19:43 |
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A lot has changed. My son put in a new pc ddr 266 systemboard, new 300g hard drive, new memory, I am running windows xp proz(I did have that before). I am kind of thinking maybe, I should redownload shrink??? I have copied probably 100 dvd's so it is not like I don't know a little bit about it. But I am really stumped because I don't know so much about my machine. Is there anyway to change that one ultra dma 1 to a higher number? All of my dvd's are taking longer; some longer than others but none faster than 7 hours. I don't know what other spec to tell you about the pc, what do you need to know?
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jvostler
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14. August 2006 @ 20:07 |
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I guess also I am afraid that maybe I don't have the latest copy of shrink before they stopped updating it.
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14. August 2006 @ 20:12 |
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Ok 1st thing I would do is put the drive (burner) on the master connector on the secondary ide cable. Make sure the jumper pins on the back of the drive correspond to the connection on the cable.
You might need to uninstall the secondary ide channel and reboot for the dma mode to change.
Check the ide cable too - is it a 40 pin or 80 pin? (will have blue, black and gray connectors). Using a 40 pin instead of an 80 pin can make a diff on the transfer speed too.
Next I would probably check the memory and make sure all okay there.
Here's tool you can use:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=350
For Shrink - nah you probably have the latest version - hasn't been updated in 2 years. Can't hurt to uninstall and reinstall too. Here's a link to the last version:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=350
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jvostler
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19. August 2006 @ 15:42 |
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I just started back to work and have not had time to get to it, but I will, and thanks for the help. I will let you know what happens
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jvostler
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12. September 2006 @ 21:19 |
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We tried all of the above things that you suggested with negitive results. The only thing left to do was remove dvd shink and reinstall from the link you gave me. I tried it and I think it worked much better. I haven't had time to try it with any newer movies but an older movies took several hours. I will try a few newer movies when I can and get back to you. I just went back to work and it has been practically 12 hour days. So I haven't had time to check on much of anything. Thanks for your time and efforts I appreciate your help very much!
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13. September 2006 @ 04:39 |
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Several hours to do one movie is still way too long.
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tbiggs
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13. September 2006 @ 08:48 |
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is your new 300 gig drive a sata drive ?
and after you rebuilt your machine and installed windows does your machine seem to run slow in generale ?
i just rebuilt my machine as well and had the same results , windows was slow , file transfer was all set to dma 4 , all my programs were takeing minutes to load , the machine was running like my old 186 lol .
after a week of constant part replacing and heavy drinking i finally figured out what the deal was , with me running the sata drives i needed to install a driver called VIA Raid Tool , it was on the board instalation cd but i didnt think it was needed and boy was i wrong lol , as soon as i installed it my machine breathed new life , windows was back to normal and all my programs worked the way they were created to , let me tell you that it was a diference between night and day lol.
so pop that cd in that came with your board and search it for any kind of sata or raid driver and get it installed and hopefully this will solve your troubles ..
let me know how you made out .
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jvostler
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18. March 2007 @ 14:26 |
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I know it has been awhile, but that is the life of a teacher! No time! I was probably using incorrect terminology in my previous messages. I said that it was taking 7 hours to copy a movie. What I should have said is it was taking 7 hours to encode a movie. It only takes 10 to 15 minutes to copy the movie on to the disc. Is that appropriate or is that way to long for it to take to encode a movie?
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18. March 2007 @ 14:55 |
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pacino679
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18. March 2007 @ 15:20 |
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i got this burning software which goes through four steps ye encodes it etc etc and burns it in bout 2 hrs max and in good quality i will send u a link to it somtym but am too tired now..lol
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jvostler
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5. April 2007 @ 21:12 |
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So what is the software?
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The_Juice
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14. April 2007 @ 00:16 |
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Hi I'm kinda new to this and I've been getting mixed information all around and I just have two questions...
Assuming the following:
-I use DVDShrink w/ Nero
-Two 3.0 GHz P4s
-504 MB of RAM
-Sony Dual/Double Layer 18x DVD-+(practically anything)R/RW
-16x DVD-R 4.7GB
-more than enough hard drive space
-Already in DMA mode rather than PIO...
-Takes like an 1.5 hours to recode, then another 1.5hrs to burn...
-I want to be one of those people who say it takes 30mins or less...
How long should it take me to copy a regular DVD movie to a DVD-R?
What can I modify/change/get/download to make the process faster?
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The_Juice
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14. April 2007 @ 00:19 |
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Oh and please and thank you!!
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14. April 2007 @ 02:37 |
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@The_Juice
To copy a single layer DVD movie where no encoding is needed, it takes about 12-15mins at 8X on my set up [nothing special]start to finished disc. To do a dual layer DVD movie that will need encoding to put on SL disc it takes about 30mins depending on how much data you keep and how long the movie is. Longer movies can take upwards of and hour to do. I just do the movie only to keep the compression low.
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14. April 2007 @ 03:40 |
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Originally posted by jvostler:
I know it has been awhile, but that is the life of a teacher! No time! I was probably using incorrect terminology in my previous messages. I said that it was taking 7 hours to copy a movie. What I should have said is it was taking 7 hours to encode a movie. It only takes 10 to 15 minutes to copy the movie on to the disc. Is that appropriate or is that way to long for it to take to encode a movie?
- just passing thru, so haven't read the whole thread yet. What are your system specs, ie CPU and RAM specifically..
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PacMan777
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14. April 2007 @ 04:31 |
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Originally posted by The_Juice:
Hi I'm kinda new to this and I've been getting mixed information all around and I just have two questions...
Assuming the following:
-I use DVDShrink w/ Nero
-Two 3.0 GHz P4s
-504 MB of RAM
-Sony Dual/Double Layer 18x DVD-+(practically anything)R/RW
-16x DVD-R 4.7GB
-more than enough hard drive space
-Already in DMA mode rather than PIO...
-Takes like an 1.5 hours to recode, then another 1.5hrs to burn...
-I want to be one of those people who say it takes 30mins or less...
How long should it take me to copy a regular DVD movie to a DVD-R?
What can I modify/change/get/download to make the process faster?
First off it sounds like you're using one of the older boards with 2 processors. Since the software isn't written for multiple processors, two doesn't help you much. Think of the job being done with a 3.0GHz P4. Not exactly a fast processor. I guess you could multitask with that other processor, but that would siphon of some of the memory which you're running low on. You left out an important variable. What is the OS and file system in use? I forgot, what is the FSB on that system? Here's an example of what can happen sometimes. I have a puny little AMD X2 running at about 2.8GHz. I'm running XP Pro. When I'm working hard I notice the taskmanger showing about 1GB or RAM hard at work. If I only had 512MB, I would have been paging a long time and there is a slowdown for you. You need to monitor your RAM to see how much load you have and how much free.
I always love it when people say more than enough hard drive space. How large are the drives and how much space is free? Also what are the drives and what RPM do they run at?
Some people look in the Device Manager and see DMA and think that's the mode they're in. I'll supply a post I have on it later. I mention it because 1.5 hours for a drive to burn means the interface is messed up somewhere. Sounds like it's at 1X. Depending on settings and compression, 1.5 hours for a transcode isn't awful, not good, but not awful. Higher compression with the quality settings in use can slow you down. If you add low system resources and the system paging, it takes even longer.
How long? Like I said, a bunch of variables, but usually somewhere between 30 min to an hour. Sometimes a bit more for a blockbuster. But first the system has to be up to par.
What you need? Ideally a Core 2 Duo E6600 with a minimum of 2GB performance RAM running XP SP2 with NTFS.
Here's that post on DMA and PIO:
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Check in Device Manager to see if DMA or PIO is on. The Secondary channel usually has the optical drives and the hard drives are on the Primary. Double click the channel and look in Advanced Settings or right click the desired channel and select Properies and look under the Advanced Settings tab. Note current transfer mode. Transfer Mode: is the setting that's desired, not necessarily what the drive is in, that's the Current Transfer Mode. SATA doesn't use DMA.
#I is the Control Panel. Follow I, II, III. Hard drives on Primary Channel and optical drives on Secondary Channel. Uninstall and reboot to kick drives back into DMA on. After Reboot check to make sure DMA is on. If problems persist, check IDE cables, drives and mobo.
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@jvostler
All the discussion and I have no idea what you have for a PC or the system configuration, system resources or the OS and file system.
For those who don't know what they have, Belarc Advisor will tell you.
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matrix37
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14. April 2007 @ 05:07 |
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14. April 2007 @ 05:38 |
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@jvostler
When you say "a new pc ddr 266 systemboard", do you mean a new motherboard that supports ddr 266 memory?? If this is the case, it sounds like you installed the new motherboard without doing a clean OS install. When installing a new motherboard, I personally like to do a clean Windows install, but that is just my personal preference. If a new motherboard has been installed, I would download a registry cleaner (like ccleaner, can be found here: http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ ),uninstall all drivers related to the old motherboard and new motherboard alike, and restart the computer. Upon restart, you computer is going to try to "install new hardware", just cancel out everytime it tries to until it stops trying...now run ccleaner. Restart once more, and now use you supplied CD to install drivers for the current motherboard. Or you can go to the motherboard's manufacturer (sp?) website and download the latest drivers. All of this of course after you have rearranged your drives as previously suggested and ensuring you are truly in DMA mode.
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The_Juice
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14. April 2007 @ 08:37 |
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Hi thanks for the help,
I'm running on XP (home edition i think. That's what it says under system properties but I have a bunch of office programs... if that even matters)
oh and NTFS
I just installed a new 400GB harddrive and have 300+ to work with (well and 80GB more when I clear my old harddrive). I think it is 7200rpm, 8MB Cache, SATA 3.0GB/sec...
I had really been trying to figure this out on my own so I had run into the DMA/PIO guide earlier hoping that it would help out but they were already in DMA and I went through the procedures anyway to be sure...
More info: I'm using Nero 6 (not 7 because it gives me audio sync problems when I create my own DVDs) and DVD Shrink 3.2...
Another question i'm confused about which movies need to be encoded and which don't... Is that like the type of movie (ie- LOTR vs Billy Madison)? Is it the age (same examples i guess)? or just between like a homemade video and a hollywood movie? And how can I find out their size?
One more thing I just realized... when I try to burn w/ Nero "Copy DVD" (straight DVD to DVD) and I select write speed, the highest option is 2.4x... my burner is 18x and DVDs are 16x why???
Please and thank you again!
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