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Steve7481
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17. August 2006 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I reformatted my PC about a week ago and before that I was ripping DVDs in less than 20 minutes. Now after I reformatted it is taking close to an hour. I've tried a few suggestions here and there but nothing seems to be working.

Can anyone give me some advice?
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17. August 2006 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like your drive is in PIO mode instead of DMA. You can check in device manager. I don't have the link to the guide but someone will come along and help.Try This, I found:

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DMA settings - You may have DMA disabled for your CD-/DVD-ROM and recorder devices. You should enable this feature. If you have old drivers (even if you have the latest in some cases), DMA may not be properly supported, even though you can enable it. You should try with DMA disabled if you still have problems having enabled it.
Enable or disable DMA:
To enable DMA in Windows 2000/XP, simply go to your 'Control Panel --> Systems --> Hardware --> Device Manager'. Double click on the 'IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers'. Right click on the 'Primary IDE Channel', go to 'Properties --> Advanced Settings' and change ´Transfer Mode´ to 'DMA if available'. Do the same for the secondary IDE channel.
For Windows 9x and ME, go to your 'Control Panel --> System --> Device Manager --> CD-ROM' and under the devices 'Properties --> Settings' enable or disable DMA.


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17. August 2006 @ 18:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You know, I've seen this slow ripping problem popping up in other forums also. I have the same slow ripping problem, which I've never had before. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and they're still slow. I'm just wondering since this problem has started to occur in different forums, if it could possible be a XP update that might be the culprit in all this. Just a thought.

Im not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.
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17. August 2006 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yep. When you reinstalled OS and reformatted drive, your hard disks went back to the default PIO mode. Make sure you have all the latest drives for your hardware as well.

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17. August 2006 @ 19:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Besides the PIO mode option, would your drive happen to be a Plextor? If so there may be another option if the one above doesnt work.



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Steve7481
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18. August 2006 @ 05:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My drive is not a Plexor, it's Philips. One thing that may be an issue is that I recently installed my old PC's hard drive using the second set of cables just like the ones hooked into the DVD burner. I'm sorry I don't know the technical names. I have the burner set as the master, as it has been since day one, and the hard drive set as slave. Don't know if that could be a problem. I've done the whole changing to DMA if available option. One thing I did notice when doing that was this:



It's recognizing both of them on the same IDE channel. Any advice? Also how do I make sure I have the latest drivers? Where would be the best place to look? My drive is a Philips 8701 I believe.

Oh yeah I've also uninstalled the drivers and rebooted and XP recognized both drives. Didn't give any confirmation though that the drivers were uninstalled or reinstalled.
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18. August 2006 @ 19:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The fact that your hard-drive and your DVD-Burner are sharing bandwidth that is most likely the cause of your problems. I would try plugging each in as its own master and see how thats helps. But i bet thats the problem.



"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08
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18. August 2006 @ 20:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The harddrive with your os should allways be set to master. Just like Peainapod said never hook up your burner to the same cable as your hard drive.
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19. August 2006 @ 03:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I only have 2 cables free, well 1 considering the burner is plugged into one, and I only have 1 other cable that I can plug my 2nd hard drive into. That's the only option. I only have the one cable that's split into 2. I had another DVD drive hooked into but I wanted my other hard drive installed.

Is there a way I can install my hard drive using the extra SATA cable I have? I made another thread about how to install the hard drive b/c I didn't know how. Here's a link to it:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/376641
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19. August 2006 @ 04:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@steve

I don't know about SATA, but you can get an external enclosure and put the HDD in it and connect it with USB 2.0.


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19. August 2006 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe they make PCI cards that you can plug sata cables into. But im not sure,so you might want to check a online store like newegg.com or tigerdirect.com

@steve7481
How did you make your Windows XP windows be black like that? Id really like to do that, so any info would be great.



"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08
Steve7481
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20. August 2006 @ 03:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah I found something on Tiger Direct that I can use. So do you think that's the problem? Having the hard drive and burner set on the same IDE cable? I was looking for some drivers or something for my burner but I haven't had much luck.

PeaInAPod check out this link for how to change your Windows look: http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=35008
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20. August 2006 @ 10:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Your post is confusing. How many hard drives and how many opticals?

Is it 2 HD's and one burner? If so you don't need to mess with anything extra.

>>>>> I only have the one cable that's split into 2.

If I'm reading this right, get 2 IDE cables (80 wire) with 2 plugs.

On the Primary IDE put the 2 HD's, Master and Slave. On the Secondary IDE put the burner as Master. You could probably also use the CS (cable Select) settings on both if you like. Note with Cable Select, Masters go on the end of the IDE cable, Slaves in the middle.
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20. August 2006 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks steve,
but like mysticice said can you post what exactly what your trying to hook up? 2 HD's and a Burner? a Burner and a HD? and can you post how many ide plugs you got in your mobo?



"Some people have no damn sense." - Nephilim, March 27 2007 @ 18:08
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20. August 2006 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Before I reformatted my PC the other week I had just my DVD burner and the original hard drive that came with my PC. I had the DVD burner connected through the IDE cable and the hard drive through a separate connection cable all together. I guess whatever SATA drives hook through. I had my old hard drive from my old PC that I wanted to put in my new computer as well since it would give 200GB. The only way to install the HD was using the IDE cable since it's split. My burner was and still is set as the master and I set my old HD as the slave.
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20. August 2006 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it sounds like you have a SATA HD. You probably have 2 IDE channels but are only using one. On your MOBO is there another empty connector next to the IDE one you are using?
Steve7481
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20. August 2006 @ 16:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Steve7481
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20. August 2006 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I only have one slot for an IDE cable.
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20. August 2006 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Post your MOBO model number.
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21. August 2006 @ 03:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am also having very slow ripping speeds and burning speeds as well l have checked my devices and they are set to DMA if avaliable, l have also tried to update my driver for my dvd burner and cant get it too update ( its a lite on ) any help would be greatly appreciated.

thank you
Izod
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21. August 2006 @ 03:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry for the double post l dont see an edit button.

If it helps any when lm using Nero or DVD Decrypter the buffer is usually at %100 and the device buffer fluctuates between %0-100 usually stays in the high 80's hope this sheds some more light

once again thank you
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21. August 2006 @ 04:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is a quote from the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
"For repeated DMA errors.
Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more than six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only PIO mode on that device.
In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the device.
Windows XP downgrades the Ultra DMA transfer mode after receiving more than six CRC errors. Whenever possible, the operating system will step down one UDMA mode at a time (from UDMA mode 4 to UDMA mode 3, and so on).
If the mini-IDE driver for the device does not support stepping down transfer modes, or if the device is running UDMA mode 0, Windows XP will step down to PIO mode after encountering six or more CRC errors. In this case, a system reboot should restore the original DMA mode settings.
All CRC and timeout errors are logged in the system event log. These types of errors could be caused by improper mounting or improper cabling (for example, 40-pin instead of 80-pin cable). Or such errors could indicate imminent hardware failure, for example, in a hard drive or chipset."

the solution is to uninstall whichever IDE channel your drive is on and re-start.windows will auto install it on start.after that just make sure DMA is set.thats it.

Im not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.
Steve7481
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21. August 2006 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Zev0 - I've already done that.

MysticE - What is MOBO?
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21. August 2006 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>> - What is MOBO?

The model number of your motherboard, ie. ASUS XXXXXXXX, MSI, ECS, etc.
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Steve7481
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23. August 2006 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not even sure where to find the motherboard number. I have a Dell PC if that helps at all.
 
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