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davboo
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17. August 2006 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can anyone please help give me some ideas to solve this problem? I've been burning DVDs successfully for 6 months or so, but now always get a burn ring about 1/4 inch from the start of the burn in the middle of the disc, which causes the DVD to freeze about 1 to 2 minutes into the movie when I play it. Occasionaly the burn ring is about 1/2 inch from the outer edge of the disc, but I haven't had a successful burn for weeks :(
I use DVDdecrypter and/or DVD Shrink for extraction, and Nero 6.6 to burn. I've tried writing at 4X and 2X. I also tried DVDclone and get exactly the same problem. I've tried Sony and TDK DVD-R media, with the same results. I also defragged the hard drive.
Has anyone got any ideas? I'd really appreciate any help, thanks.
Here's the Nero log.....
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/28/2004 4:51:12 PM
Nero version: 6.6.0.1
Recorder: <HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B>Version: D108 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.1
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B>Version: D108 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.1
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG HD160JJ/P atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD-ROM DDU1615 D: CDRom0
HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164 E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1046604kB)
Free physical memory: 610MB (625520kB)
Memory in use : 40 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

17.8.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
6:33:05 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
DVD-Video files reallocation started

6:33:05 PM #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 549
Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified

6:33:05 PM #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 549
Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified

6:33:05 PM #4 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
DVD-Video files reallocation completed

6:33:05 PM #5 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6165
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

6:33:05 PM #6 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
DVD-Video files sorted

6:33:05 PM #7 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

6:33:05 PM #8 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B running

6:33:05 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:33:05 PM #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

6:33:05 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3117
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

6:33:05 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 256
Last possible write address on media: 2297903 (510:38.53, 4488MB)
Last address to be written: 1599375 (355:25.00, 3123MB)

6:33:05 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 268
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

6:33:05 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2309
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

6:33:05 PM #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 430
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

6:33:05 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 844
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1599376 (1599376) = #1599376/355:25.1
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1599376 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

6:33:05 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1047
Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3275522048, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1599376 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

6:33:05 PM #18 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
Caching of files started

6:33:06 PM #19 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4003
Cache writing successful.

6:33:06 PM #20 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
Caching of files completed

6:33:06 PM #21 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

6:33:06 PM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2497
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

6:33:06 PM #23 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
Set remaining time: 10:02,354 (602354ms) -> OK

6:33:06 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2027
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

6:33:06 PM #25 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20673
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

6:33:06 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2168
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

6:33:06 PM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8281
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

6:43:12 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GWA4164B> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1599376 (186790h), lenght 0 blocks

6:43:12 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

6:43:12 PM #30 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2410
EndDAO: Last written address was 1599375

6:43:42 PM #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

6:43:42 PM #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

6:43:42 PM #33 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/17/2001 3:07:32 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 4/25/2005 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 11:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
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17. August 2006 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well, have u tried ImgBurn to see if Nero is causing the problem?

What is the max speed of the disks u r using?
It is best to burn at half of the max speed on the disks

Is it a dell PC? if so u might want to look for a firmware update?

It could be the media?
u could pick some up and try these to rule out if the media is the problem?

this is the best media u can get
Taiyo Yuden(Online)
Verbatims
Sony(MIJ)
Maxell(MIJ)
Fuji(MIJ)
MIJ=made in Japan




"When I look at the smiles on all the childrens faces, I just know theyre about to jab me with something."- Homer Simpson
davboo
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17. August 2006 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the reply! No, I hadn't heard of ImgBurn - but will try it.

As for the discs, they're rated at 16X.

Yes, it's a Dell PC, so I will look for a firmware update. Also will try a different media, but I'm suspicious it's something else as I've burned OK in the past with Sony, TDK, Memorex and Verbatim.
davboo
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21. August 2006 @ 15:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, ImgBurn gave me the same problems with a burn ring as Nero. So I downloaded new firmware for my drive, which helped a bit, although I still got a burn ring on 50% of the discs I burned. Finally I tried with Verbatim DVD+R discs, which helps a lot, but I still get the occasional burn ring and another coaster.
It's odd, as I could use many different medias before. Now it looks like I'm restricted to Verbatim.
So does anyone know, are the Sony and TDK media worse than they were a few months ago, or do you think my drive is faulty?
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21. August 2006 @ 21:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it all depends on the Manufactor of those disks, i have heard good reviews about the Sony ones u were using and tdk is not considered to be good media.

Just curious what speed are u burning the Verbs at or the Sonys?
If they are 16x max speed i would suggest burning them a 8x speed, especially the verbs, as i saw on ur log u were burning them at 4x



"When I look at the smiles on all the childrens faces, I just know theyre about to jab me with something."- Homer Simpson

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davboo
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23. August 2006 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just tried burning at 8X again, and get a big burn ring towards the end of the disc, and it freezes on playing it. If I burn at 4X, most of the time the discs are OK, but sometimes I still get a lighter burn ring, or sometimes even a semicircle, near the middle of the disc, but my player seems to read it OK.
If the drive is on the way out is this what happens, or do I still need to try a few things software-wise?
Thanks for all the help!
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23. August 2006 @ 20:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im not sure if that happens when ur burner is going out, wait for someone with more knowledge about that suject to reply, i really dont know what else it could be if the same thing happens with different burning programs and high quality media like the verbatims.
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although I still got a burn ring on 50% of the discs I burned
So this doesn't happen everytime?
did u get the newest version of the firmware?
Im kinda stumped as i said earlier.



"When I look at the smiles on all the childrens faces, I just know theyre about to jab me with something."- Homer Simpson
davboo
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7. September 2006 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I replaced my DVD burner with a new one, and the problem is solved. I can burn on any media, any speed now. So, it was a hardware problem. Thanks for your help.
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7. September 2006 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
davboo, been watching ur post. sure sounds like a bunk burner 2 me. since thats the most expensive fix, i wanted to reserve my opinion.
glad u had good results!
NARCISMO



if u had good results on this site...please refer a friend!

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7. September 2006 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
davboo,
even though ur drive is new, u still may want to check for a firmware update. 4 real. :-)
NARCISM0


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