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stretch87
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19. August 2006 @ 14:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this is a movie that a downloaded. i was told, "it's a straight rip with DVD Decrypter, completely unedited (so it has all the extras still on it)." as the title states, the download contained one 6.74 GB ISO and one 8.24 KB MDS

I have never burning anything but a data dvd using Nero so i have no idea what i'm doing. I really, really tried reading a bunch of guides. the problem is pretty much all guides start from the ripping stage so i get lost right off the bat.

I am aware that this movie will only fit on a DVD9 without editing so i bought some dvd9s today (shrinking it may be a little over my head at this point, right?)

if i only need one program to burn this (i already have Nero) then it would be great if someone could tell me which program and a short set of instructions (if it's that simple). if this is asking too much then could someone at least point me in the right direction with an appropriate, up to date guide?

thank you and sorry if this kind of request is not appreciated here

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19. August 2006 @ 15:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So you do not own this movie?

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19. August 2006 @ 15:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello stretch87,
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without editing so i bought some today
does this mean u bought a encoding program(Shrinking program)
did u use open it already(Dont)

DVD Shrink is a free program to make dvds fit DVD5, it is also very easy to do. heres where u can get it
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_...

Here are a whole bunch of guides(pick the one BACKup dvd with DVD Shrink)
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/guides.htm

Post back for any ques. or if the guide is too much




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19. August 2006 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't need DVDShrink, if you have a full version of Nero you could make it fit on a DVD5 with Recode.

I would first mount the ISO and see if it plays. You could use DaemonTools (free) or Nero's own ImageDrive. With ImageDrive, set the dropdown to ISO and point it to the ISO, mount it and see if it plays properly with whatever software you use. I use Nero ShowTime. At this point you could open this virtual disc in Nero Recode to shrink it if you like.

Nero burns DL but most prefer ImgBurn (free, the remains of DVDDecrypter).

http://www.imgburn.com/
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20. August 2006 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dialysis1:
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So you do not own this movie?
No i do not own this movie, but it is a foreign film and i am not breaking any local or international laws

300bowler:
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Quote:without editing so i bought some today

does this mean u bought a encoding program(Shrinking program)
did u use open it already(Dont)
sorry that wasn't very clear. i meant to say that i went out and bought a bunch of dvd9s. i do not have an encoding program and i have not touched the download

MysticE:
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You don't need DVDShrink, if you have a full version of Nero you could make it fit on a DVD5 with Recode.

I would first mount the ISO and see if it plays. You could use DaemonTools (free) or Nero's own ImageDrive. With ImageDrive, set the dropdown to ISO and point it to the ISO, mount it and see if it plays properly with whatever software you use. I use Nero ShowTime. At this point you could open this virtual disc in Nero Recode to shrink it if you like.

Nero burns DL but most prefer ImgBurn (free, the remains of DVDDecrypter).
yes i realize it's possible to get this movie to fit on a DVD5 but i don't want to reduce the quality or remove the extras. i'd like to keep it as is if possible.

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>>>> ...MysticE: yes i realize it's possible to get this movie to fit on a DVD5 but i don't want to reduce the quality or remove the extras. i'd like to keep it as is if possible

I covered that, you also said "(shrinking it may be a little over my head at this point, right?)", which denotes a desire but not the skill, that's why I mentioned Recode.

>>>>>>>>>> I would first mount the ISO and see if it plays.
>>>>>>>>>> Nero burns DL but most prefer ImgBurn (free, the remains of DVDDecrypter).
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20. August 2006 @ 10:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Download and open Imgburn, browse to the MDS file and burn.


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20. August 2006 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sorry, MysticE. i didn't recognize the difference between shrinking and recoding


I'll download imgburn and try burning it
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20. August 2006 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would still mount it in a virtual drive first, to make sure it actually plays correctly before wasting a DL disc.
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20. August 2006 @ 23:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i mounted it using Daemon Tools and it played fine, but something went wrong when i attempted to burn it to DVD9 using DVD Decrypter.

DVDDECRYPER LOG: http://www.freewebtown.com/nastradamus87/DVDDecrypter.log

Screenshot of error popup:http://www.freewebtown.com/nastradamus87/Error%20screenshot.bmp

what went wrong and how do i correct it? this mistake cost me three dollars =(
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20. August 2006 @ 23:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>>>> but most prefer ImgBurn

>>>>>>> I'll download imgburn and try burning it

DVDDecrypter is old news these days and hasn't been updated in a while.

ImgBurn is the one you should have tried it's been tweaked especially for DL burning. I even provided the link. Oh well. Also many aren't too fond of the Ritek DL media.

Good Luck
stretch87
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thanks for such quick responses.

alright i've installed imgburn. i double clicked the MSD of the movie i want to burn and imgburn opened. do i want to have 'verify' checked, or no?

I'm getting a popup when i try to burn it. the popus says "Cannot set the layer break position when burning DVD-R DL media in DAO mode. Do you want to continue?"

I said no because i don't want to reck another disc, so the burn is cancelled. should i just continue or do i have to adjust the settings?

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21. August 2006 @ 04:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Give one of these methods a try:

Burning DVD Video files directly to double layer media with ImgBurn
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

Creating a double layer ISO on your hard drive using ImgBurn
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1777



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21. August 2006 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another thing to note is +R Double Layer discs have much better standalone DVD compatability that the -R Dual Layer discs.
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21. August 2006 @ 12:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
^ really? i guess i'll take back the other five back i bought then. i only got -R because + was sold out. now i know why they were all gone. oh well
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21. August 2006 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Another thing to note is +R Double Layer discs have much better standalone DVD compatability that the -R Dual Layer discs.
+R DL only have better standalone capability if booktyped to DVD-Rom, try your -R DL and see if they work. My older DVD players will not play +R DL media unless booktyped.


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21. August 2006 @ 17:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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DVDDecrypter is old news these days and hasn't been updated in a while
It may be old news but it still works, and coupled with RipIt4Me the program still does great.


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>>>> +R DL only have better standalone capability if booktyped to DVD-Rom

Isn't that why anyone would choose +R media in the first place, because it can be set to DVD-ROM? +R DL are the ones to use for video, the -R DL are best used for data storage and all the new decent drives now booktype +R.

A quote from CDFreaks:

All brand of DVD+R DL play nicely in both players. However, the Verbatim DVD-R DL freezes at the layer break in one of our standalone player Koss DVP2161. Meanwhile Ridata DVD-R DL is unable to be recognized in both standalone players.

We would like to mention, that the compatibility issue with standalone DVD Players and the DVD-R DL media format is also caused by incompatibilities with the standalone devices used in this review, as we know the DVD-R DL format has inferior compatibility compared to DVD+R DL especially with older standalone player.


And from LOCOENG's link:

It is NOT recommended to use DVD-R DL Discs for Video.

>>>> On DVDDecrypter....It may be old news but it still works, and coupled with RipIt4Me the program still does great.

We are are discussing the best app to use for burning DL, ImgBurn beats DVDDecrypter hands down. If you were to peruse the changelogs for ImgBurn you would see over a dozen items related to improving DL burning. DVDDecrypter has it's uses but for DL burning ImgBurn is the superior app.
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Yes +R DL is the better media, however as stated only if booktyped. Many people do not know about booktyping, and end up here wondering why the product does not work on their standalone. Yes many newer burners booktype, but many posters still have older drives. For burning yes ImgBurn is superior, that is not what I stated. What I stated is the DVDD still works, and need not be relegated to a closet because it is no longer updated. DVDD is more all purpose than ImgBurn.


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22. August 2006 @ 06:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wouldn't it have been more effective to explain booktyping/bitsetting or post a link to a guide and FAQ rather than trying to make all of us look stupid? I think I see a pattern forming here.


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25. August 2006 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm following this guide --> http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780 <-- provided by LOCOENG.

I'm having a problem right off the bat. When I try to "Press the calculator to make sure your project will fit on Dual Layer media." like it says in the guide i get two popups. I have no idea what the popups mean. the two popus appear in the following order:

http://www.freewebtown.com/nastradamus87/1.bmp

http://www.freewebtown.com/nastradamus87/2.bmp

(terribley sorry about the file sizes)
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25. August 2006 @ 12:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just a thought but is your HDD formated in Fat32 or NTFS?


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28. August 2006 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have absolutely no idea what that means lol, sorry.

i'll figure it out asap
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2. September 2006 @ 11:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my HDD is formatted in NTFS

i bought a pack of verbatim DL+R and i'm still having the same problem at the calculator step

do i need to extract the iso to properly follow this guide?
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You can backup with either an ISO or VIDEO_TS folder..what problems are you having?


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