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Boomerang
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29. August 2006 @ 19:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have the Sony DW-D22A drive and I have been burning DVD -R DL disks for quite some time with it.

I just got a new batch of Ridata DVD -R DL disks in and I cannot burn to the disks.

I have upgraded the firmware to BYS3 and still no luck.

1) Anyone have any ideas what is going on.
2) Also, anticipating that it's time to get a new drive I've started searching for a new one and so far it appears that the DL drives only support DVD +R DL. What's up with this?
3) Recommendation on a new driver that will support writing to DVD -R DL disks?

Thanks for the support.

BoomerangThree
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29. August 2006 @ 20:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The problem is that your burner does not support DVD-R DL writing.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDname=DW-D22A&Submit=Search&cdrs=&cdrws=&dvdrs=&dvdrws=&dvdrsdl=&dvdprs=&dvdprws=&dvdprsdl=&dvdrams=&bdrs=&bdres=&bdrdls=&bdredls=&buffer=Any&cdrom=&dvdrom=&bdrom=&orderby=Name&hits=25&Search=Search

NEC ND-3550A, Pioneer 111D/L, Benq 1650/1655, Lite-On Lite-On SHM-165P6S - all are modern drives that handle -R DL as well as +R DL.

The Pioneer and Benq is generally considered the best, the latter being able to bitset. I have the NEC, and it is phenomenal, with my only complaint that it won't bitset DVD+R single layer (it will bitset +R DL to DVD-ROM though.) The NEC can use a hacked firmware from Liggy's and Dee's to bitset all around and is available for $19.99 at tigerdirect after rebate until the end of the month.

BTW, Ridata is considered crap media generally, though I don't know about their -R DL offerings. I hope they work out well for you.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
Boomerang
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29. August 2006 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, I will go with that. I swear the disks I have been using are -R DL, but I guess not.

The disks I have written in the past are blank, no indication of their type, i.e. - or + R.

Is there a way / software that I can use to determine the type of media I have been using in the past?

Thanks for the reply, education and recommendation on a new drive.



BoomerangThree
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29. August 2006 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try DVDidentifier -> http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

It'll also tell you the media code as well as type.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
Boomerang
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29. August 2006 @ 20:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man, I gotta stop smoking the wacky weed.

Yep, +R disks are what I have been burning in the past.

It's time to upgrade.

Thanks for your time and paitence...

BoomerangThree
Boomerang
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29. August 2006 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
One finaly question for the night.

If I have a DVD Player that plays DVD -R +R and DVD +R DL do you think I will have any trouble playing DVD -R DL in it?



BoomerangThree
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30. August 2006 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there,

If those DVD-R DL are used to burn video, the next question is:

Will your DVD Player support them ?

I assume the new ones maybe, but I would not be surprise if some older ones won't play them at all !

Anyone with experience with DVD-R DL Media Playback feedback ?

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30. August 2006 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, take this with a grain of salt because I have never used a DVD-R DL or even touched one in person, but I understand there are some problems. Namely, they handle the layer break a bit differently than +R DLs and it's not quite as straightforward. I suspect this will cause compatibility problems. I suspect some manufacturers have not even tested DVD-R DL due to it's rarity. So I think compatibility will be more iffy than it is with +R DL.

Again, I am only repeating things I have heard, so I could be way off and giving the format an undeserved bad rap. But I personally believe that if you want to "play it safe" right now, stick with +R DL until and if the -R DL format has had a chance to get better established.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
Boomerang
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30. August 2006 @ 18:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I upgraded my DVD Burner to the Pioneer DVR-111D and I'm back in business with burning DVD -R DL.

They also work on my DVD player. It takes a bit of doing and support from all of you, but it's worth it in the end.

Lesson learned about DVD -R DL versus DVD +R DL. The -R is definitely not in the norm.



BoomerangThree
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30. August 2006 @ 22:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey, good luck. I just though I'd mention something I just found out, that I Imgburn 2.0 apparently handles the DVD-R DL "layer jump" (they don't call it a layer break for some reason). Supposedly, so does Clonedvd2. I don't know of any other software that really deals with it. Also, according to Videohelp's site, the Pioneer doesn't bitset/booktype DVD+R, so you may be stuck using DVD-R if you need compatibility with older or weird players or you may need to get a hacked firmware from rpc1.org in order to bitset. The Pioneer is a great burner nonetheless. Enjoy.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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