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None of my controller buttons respond on the main menu
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branmaz77
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8. September 2006 @ 11:58 |
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The details:
1) I have a modded version 4 ps2, fliptop using Swap Magic DVD 3.6.
2) The controller I have is the dual shock 2 for the ps2 by Sony.
3) When I try to play an original DVD game, the game loads to the main menu and stops, whereas before it used to continue on after a slight pause. At the point in which it now stops, one has the option to press the x button or press the triangle button, but when I do, nothing happens/responds no matter what button I press on my controller(s).
4) If I place a memory card in either slot, neither memory card slot will auto read like before.
5) When I try Swap Magic 3.6, it too stops prior to the loading screen, and there are not buttons to push, it's basically the splash screen that is usually bypassed after a brief moment or two.
6) The analog light on the controller does NOT light up red.
I've tried:
1) Multiple known working dual shock ps2 controllers in both Ports 1 and Port 2, no effect at all.
2) Multiple known working dvd disc games, cleaned, etc.
3) Turning the console on it's side and upside down.
What I haven't tried:
1) DVD Movie
2) Cleaning the lens, because I have a question about that below.
3) Adjusting the height of the laser by rotating the white disc behind the laser.
4) Spraying the inside of the console with a can of air, which I do have.
5) A 2nd swap magic 3.6 dvd disc, I don't have access to one.
A question regarding lens cleaning. Is the lens considered the glass enclosure around the laser, if so, by cleaning, does this generally mean to eject the tray, turn off the console, and take a cotton swab dipped in alcohol to wipe the lens?
Thanks so much for taking the time, it's kinda frustrating when you are not getting read errors, but rather you see and hear the game, but nothing responds thru the controller allowing game play :-(.
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11. September 2006 @ 11:22 |
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The only thing I can think of is if the cable going to the controller ports has been disconnected from the motherboard. Take the top off your PS2 and have a look to see if this is the case. I did this when I resprayed my case and was having the same problems before realising what I had done wrong...
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branmaz77
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11. September 2006 @ 11:25 |
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Thanks for the response, you have been the only one to offer any input.
Are there websites that show pictures of the inside of a PS2 so I know what I'm looking for when I search for the contorller cable going to the controller ports?
Do you know if one cable is responsible for both controller ports? If so, this would make a lot of sense. Would this also make sense for the memory cards not to work either, ie, are they controlled by the same cable do you think?
Thanks,
bran
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11. September 2006 @ 12:33 |
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One cable does indeed connect both ports, however I have a V12 now and the ports are soldered directly on to the board! It's been such a long time since I've seen the inside of a V4 so I'm not really much help!
This site gives you a full disassembly guide for a V4, hopefully this will help!!!!
http://www.chipzone.com/installation/pla...2_us/V4open.cfm
Let me know if you want any more help and I'll see what I can do!
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branmaz77
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20. September 2006 @ 12:55 |
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From the diagram, the cable to the controller port is called a 'flex board', and this INDEED appears to be my culprit!
This flex cable is soooo wafer thin and light, I can't tell if it was connected before I pulled it out of the port connect or not.
However, I have since meticulously placed this flex board/cable back into the connector, noting that it doesn't snap, it just slides in, and it flexes easily (based on it's name, not surprising I guess :-)).
With the flex board in the connector, my red analog light comes on when I hit the button on the controller, however, the other buttons, like X or O, do not respond until I move the controller port.
When the controller port is rotated forward and slightly upwards, the 6 silver controller port 'prongs' make contact with what looks like a larger silver heatsink? and then the buttons seem to respond rather regularly. My guess is that the slightly upwards movement has the effect of making the flex board touch the inside front of the connector a little bit better, and this is necessary for the buttons?
I'm totally guessing here, but one thing that seems obvious is that the flex board is incredibly sensitive inside of the connector AND if it's supposed to be more securely inside, ie, not freely capable of being removed, then this is no longer the case, as it moves in and out as easily as lifting up on the controller port.
Is this the way the flex board is supposed to be or behave?
Thanks so much,
bran
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20. September 2006 @ 13:17 |
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BINGO!
That's the answer I was hoping for. I made exactly the same mistake!
The connector that the cable slides into either flicks up or has a locking clip that slides forward...cannae remember!!!
Ah, just looked at the picture. Right, at the end of the connector, put your finger nail under it and gently pull up, it should unclip along the middle. This will allow you to push the cable in further than before. When the cable is in place, push down on the clip and it should lock into position, securely clamping the cable in place!!!
And that should do it...
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branmaz77
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21. September 2006 @ 05:02 |
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Wow, so it DOES clip in, this is great news. I can't wait to get home and try this!!!!
I'll let you know, and your directions on how it clips (use finger nail, unclips in the middle, etc) will be invaluable, because I couldn't figure out how this little piece could ever clip anything.
Thanks, I'll be back with an update soon!
bran
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branmaz77
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22. September 2006 @ 05:28 |
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Two items I've noticed:
1) My flex board does not pull out or extend past the opening of the ps2 case, should it? It seems attached to the inside bottom of the console, this makes attaching the clamp very difficult.
2) Now that I am able to open up the clamp, I don't see what the clamping will do differently, ie, I don't see how it will snap onto the flex board. It seems the space I have when it's clamped, albeit small, is still room enough for the flex board to freely enter in all the way and the easily pull back out?
I tested this with a piece of paper, it slides in with the clamp shut just as far as with it open, and when 'clamped' it pulls right out easily.
If the connectors are supposed to clamp around the connectors on the flex board, then I have my answer of how this is supposed to work. This would imply that when the clamp is closed, I am not able to push the flex board as far into the clamp as what you are saying when it is open. It looks like I still could, but with it being so difficult to try fitting with the clamp open, it's hard to tell, we are talking millimeters of difference here.
Should the flex board pull out more? If not, I spose I could use tweezers to close the clamp in the tiny space within the board itself after the flex board is inside the open clamp area, wow, that would be like surgery, lol.
Any thoughts or observations?
Thanks,
bran
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22. September 2006 @ 10:06 |
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It is a really fiddly job...
Unfortunately the ports have no need to extend past the outside of the case, so they give you no slack on the cable at all...
Tweezers, definitely a good suggestion if you can't manage to get your fingers in to do it!
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branmaz77
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22. September 2006 @ 18:44 |
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Okay, I am also seeing where this flex board won't extend any further.
Still, I have this issue:
2) Now that I am able to open up the clamp, I don't see what the clamping will do differently, ie, I don't see how it will snap onto the flex board. It seems the space I have when it's clamped, albeit small, is still room enough for the flex board to freely enter in all the way and the easily pull back out?
Should this be the case, or has something been broken?
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23. September 2006 @ 09:11 |
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you have to push the cable in all the way before clamping it. About the paper thing u tried thats a different story because its thinner than the wire. Becareful bout the cable it tend to break eaisly. If it is broken u will need a new 1 of corse
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branmaz77
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25. September 2006 @ 13:09 |
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The flex board pushes in the same amount (1/16 inch at most) regardless if the clamp is open or closed, that appears to be the main issue/problem, but I have yet to get that confirmed from anyone that has a similar experience.
With the clamp closed, the flex board pushes in to the plastic backing the same distance as it does when the clamping is open, there is no difference.
On the inside of the clamp piece that opens, I was expecting to see a series of small 'housing' connector pins that would clamp down on the flex board, but that is not the case. Hence why I don't know how this clamp would ever effectively hold the flex board securely.
When I push the flex board in all the way, and press down on the controller port, the controller buttons work, when I release the pressure, the controller port moves back up slightly, which I assume is where it then loses the connection that I had from pressing down.
The only thing I can think of is that the flex board is supposed to push up and 'click' inside the housing connectors inside the opened clamp. This is near impossible as any pressure that I put on the flex board, 'flexes' the 'board' of course :-\.
How does one place a small housing connector onto a flexible receiver connector and get the two to 'click' together, especially when the flex board has one end affixed to the bottom of the ps2 :-(!
I just want to know I'm on the right track of 'this is going to be near impossible'.
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