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jrg123
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30. September 2006 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I want to start backing up my dvd collection and I am also in the market for a new computer. The computer I have now just doesn't have enough memory or processing power to do the job. Since I'm in the market now, what are the minimums i need to handle ripping and burning exact copies of dual-layer dvds? The following is a Dell I built online, but I have no idea if it is more than I need:

Dell XPS 410
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor (2.66 GHz, 1066 FSB)
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667 MHz - 2 DIMMs
500GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM)w/ Databurst Cache
256MB nVidia GeForce 7300LE Turbocache video card

Is this too much?

I currently have the NEC cd/dvd combo ND-3550A burner. I have read this is a great burner and I have no idea what burner would be installed in my new computer. Should I just install this one or is there one that is more recommended?

I plan on using the following software to do the deed:
DVD43
DVD Shrink 3.2
1 Click DVD Copy 4.2
Nero

This is what I currently have. I don't know if I need all of these or which one is the best.

What are your recommendations based on the info I have provided. I want to make exact copies including all menus and special features as well as episodic dvds.

Thanks for your help in advance!
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30. September 2006 @ 11:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi :)
the only thing needed to add to your pc is another strip of ram. the minimum you need is 512Mb the more the better. seeing you all ready have 256Mb i'd add another 512Mb.

i would dump DVD43 and use AnyDVD from slysoft and dvdfabdecrypter.

imgburn.. dvddecrypter or Nero to burn
if the burner in the pc works ok. stick with it (if it aint broke dont fix it)

NEC cd/dvd combo ND-3550A. nothing wrong with this


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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. September 2006 @ 11:56

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30. September 2006 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What are the specs that you have now on your computer? Have you even tried backing up a DVD. Also you can never have to much when it comes to a computer. What you have above will do the trick.

@gurnard the 256MB is for the video card. Above he says 2GB of RAM. At least that is how I would read it.

In the list of programs you have. You really only need DVDShrink or 1Click DVD copy. 1 or the other will do the job. DVDShrink is outdated when it comes to ripping new protection but it still works when it comes to transcoding the DVD and it is free. Keep in mind if you get 1Click DVD it is $59 and you only get free updates for 1 year. After the 1 Year you have to pay another $19 every year for new updates. With either program above you will need a third party decrypting program(ripper) like AnyDVD/DVD43/DVDFab.

AnyDVD and CloneDVD is the same price combined as what 1Click is priced $59 and you get free updates for life. So if your looking money wise the better way to go would be $59 for AnyDVD and CloneDVD with free updates for life.



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30. September 2006 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would run 2 hard drives one smaller 80 t0 160 gig for your OS and store music,picture and whatever on a slave drive 160 to 300 gig and the most inporant part this is where you have your Temp. folder for movie burning if setup this way you won't frag the hell out of you OS master drive

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30. September 2006 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@larrylje hi :)

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@gurnard the 256MB is for the video card. Above he says 2GB of RAM. At least that is how I would read it.
me bad! you are dead right.(put it down to old age and failing eye sight)


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30. September 2006 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi! The combination I use is DVDFab Decrypter, DVDShrink and Nero all is freeware except Nero. DVDFab Decrpter is constantly being updated. I have the Nec 3550 and it works just fine, if you add it to your Dell set it on cable select, which Dells seem to like instead of master and slave. Good Luck.


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30. September 2006 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi again! What do you have right now? I only have a Dell Optiplex240 1.8gig and 640 ram, with a Seagate 120gig HDD, Nec3550A burner and a Samsung SH-S162L burner. With this system I get great burns especially with the Nec burner. I upgraded everything myself even tho I didn't know that much about computers. Most of what I learned was on this forum and cdfreaks.com. So if you don't need to buy the new system go with what you've got and expand it yourself. Memory and HDD space are your main concerns. Memory is the cheapest and easiest to upgrade. HDD's are very cheap right now and not that hard to install.


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30. September 2006 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That thing will run you areound $1500....

To me it is definately not worth the price for the increase in speed.

Are you going to use it for anything else??

Keep this in mind when you consider an upgrade...

The CPU is the only thing that makes a difference with speed. More

Rip speed and burn speed are fixed no matter how fast your PC. You can have a 4 pair Quad Diamond Core CPU system and it will not burn any faster than a 700MHz PC. Rip speed may or may not change, but any change is insignificant.

This means if you have an 8x reader and burn at 4x, your DVDs back up in no less than 23 minutes.

When you factor in the constant time, then the difference in CPU becomes neglegable after a certain speed. This speed will be about 2.4GHz. Anything faster will only reduce a few minutes no matter how fast.

If you plan on using options like maximum sharpness and such, then a dual core may start to make sense, but I am not sure if Shrink utilizes those CPUs effectively.
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4. October 2006 @ 13:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
as JaguarGod stated, its not all your PC setup that determines how fast you can copy/rip/backup a DVD. Pressed (retail) DVDs come preset to be read at a certain speed. your DVDROM/DVD-/+RW can only read the DVD at that speed. Now DVDRW drives usually tend to read (rip/copy) DVDs slower than a DVDROM anyway so thats gunna add tyme onto your total backup time.

Myself personally, Id spring for a decent cheap DVDROM to do my backups (to do the actual copying/ripping). Save the DVDRW drive the abuse(save your DVDRW laser the extra abuse of serving as both reader and writer), use only for your burning needs.But thats just me.
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