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Zune wireless amounts to less than a hill of beans
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article published on 3 October, 2006
A recent article snatched from Microsoft employee David Caulton has given some insight to the new Wi-Fi enabled Zune player. Poised to be the one true competition for the iPod juggernaught, the Zune appears not to be living up to the feature hype.
In a list of things that the wireless connection built into the Zune can and cannot do, David Caulton opens our eyes to how Microsoft views ... [ read the full article ]
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4. October 2006 @ 06:45 |
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Wi-fi limitation actually not that bad. I don't buy DRM infected tracks anyway and this is even more reason not to. I wonder though. Is the MS store gonna be like the itunes store: If you buy itunes DRM songs you can just burn them to disc and then re-import them as DRM-less mp3's. Same for MS songs?
As for syncing wirelessly that would be cool, but what about speed? Would it be so slow that you would'nt want to do it wirelessly anyway?
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4. October 2006 @ 07:07 |
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still everyone it's like the market has forsaken us the cunsmer... how about they listion to us and build it for less or build it witth more on it. my I-station has the standard mp3 AVI and photos but games and the fm tuner that alows you to record to mp3 is defently one of the coolest options ... they need to make more things that will improve the users experance or drop the price . if we rush out to buy what ever they tell us we need then we become sheep what ever happen to companies bending to the will of the masses.(consumers) how about a player that will play multi platforms wmf,itunes, mp3s, and more hey one that plays all will rule at the end. because all others will be perpitory to one company .... lets think befor we buy and make them the microsofts and apples build what we want....how about if the make a player that will alow full dvds to be transfered to it with out compression like with the umbs for the psp's, sony accually had a good idea just a bad media it should be a plug in like a flash chip for the movie then it might be more incryptable...
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4. October 2006 @ 07:51 |
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if that wifi connected to wifi internet, the zune would control alot more market share than they do. have you heard the new things apple is doing to the ipod? 80gb, 3d accellerator, wifi with internet, all for $299($350 maybe, cant remember right now). the zune is nothing yet, the first generation model may not be worth your time. whats up with not playing video on a huge otherwise battery wasting screen?
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4. October 2006 @ 12:14 |
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I'll keep this short, sweet, and to the point:
"Hi, we're Microsoft. We like to release really good hardware, with absolutely crippling limitations that are completely unnecessary. Eventually, users find ways to get around the unnecessary limitations we've implemented. As soon as they do, they'll actually start to enjoy our product. So we'll start implementing further measures to prevent them from enjoying the product with other users. Eventually, we'll even pursue legal action against the same individuals who show other users how to fully enjoy our product, despite the fact that these people will actually help us sell more units of our product. Thank you for choosing Microsoft, what can we do for you today?"
-End Rant.-
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4. October 2006 @ 12:17 |
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handsom
dude...I LOVE YOU!!!
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4. October 2006 @ 15:00 |
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Well after reading the updated part it still woudnt make me go out and buy a Zune player. It just seems not right.
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craftyzan
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5. October 2006 @ 05:05 |
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There's just gonna be a HUGE under counter market for tech gadgets like there's a HUGE under counter market for certain drugs (coke, pot, heroin...)
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frabgod
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6. October 2006 @ 12:53 |
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Sure it's limited, but Zune's wireless is the first small step in an exciting direction.
I'm sure future generations of iPods will have some form of wireless, and it'll be fascinating to see how Apple chooses to leverage Wi-Fi sharing.
Almost certainly, though, the Wi-Fi will have DRM strings attached.
But I hope in future models of Zune, and of iPod, that Internet browsing, and wireless linking to iTunes or Marketplace will be enabled.
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6. October 2006 @ 12:57 |
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frabgod
I say creative will make a Zune clone that better than a Ipod and Zune put together in the next year or so.
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frabgod
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6. October 2006 @ 14:37 |
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I hope you're right. I think the more companies that go after this and bring their own creative solutions, the better things will be for we consumers.
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6. October 2006 @ 14:45 |
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frabgod
Ipod has become stagnant in its innovation,when stagnation sets in someone will always come along to replace them.
I mean I don't call Ipods video playing Ipod innovative its a Ipod with a screen,media players have been around longer than that...the Zune t a step back and a step forward so its no diffrent than the vid Ipod.
I might trust half of creative products now adays (their low end sound cards have been giving me nothing but pain these last 2 years) but they do make sweet media players and uber sound cards..
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6. October 2006 @ 15:26 |
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creative will make a Zune clone that better than a Ipod and Zune put together in the next year or so.
Yes, they will. And like almost every other product they make that isn't a sound card; no one will buy it, or even know what it is. M$' Zune will fail for many years because M$ will make such a big deal over the first generation (which will be mostly useless), that no one will want to touch the (possibly?) better 2nd and 3rd generation models.
*Sigh* Such is the way of the consumer market.
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6. October 2006 @ 15:34 |
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handsom
well creative has not had much luck in its branding shceme hey dont need to make Cameras or Video cards media players are fine and all I just wish all there sound cards were still top qaulity the lwoer end oens are the pits,the 80+ ones are still qaulity and when they start to have install issues and other thigns go wrong with them I will lsoe more respect for creative...
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7. October 2006 @ 04:32 |
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Zune will have the same fate as Microsoft's entry into the consumer wireless market. Here today, gone tomorrow.
MS needs to stick with what they do best. Make buggy software that requires 1 to 15 patches every Tuesday of every week of every month of every year...and...charge $299 for it.
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7. October 2006 @ 04:49 |
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MS cant make good hardware...look at thier stuidly designed Buletooth KB and mouse set you cant even get into the fing bios with it 0-o
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voyager
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7. October 2006 @ 07:58 |
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Good bye Zune preorder,"did i said preorder?
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7. October 2006 @ 20:10 |
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microsoft again wanting money well they aint geting a cent.
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16. October 2006 @ 12:18 |
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I really do have to laugh at all the M$ bitterness around the web. Let's be honest with ourselves; only a very very select few of us have honestly put the effort into getting another OS. We all complain about how buggy the software is, even though next to no one ever experienced crashes after the initial launch of xp. And you can't say I just 'missed' all the bugs, because I was running an advance copy received from someone in the M$ loyalty program, on a machine that didn't even have a net connection to *get* the patches with for the first two years it was out...
I'm not a huge fan of them, but let's be honest with ourselves here; they're just like every other big company out there. Sony, Microsoft, you name it; if they aren't the goodwill, they're out to make a buck by whatever means possible. Let's not forget how almost every major console has shipped with big issues on day one because of product rushing and insufficient testing.
But look at it this way, with patches, you're at least not stuck having to take back a product to the store, and HOPING they have a replacement for you... And it's free(Unless it's antivirus :D )
M$ screwed up bad on the Zune... Bad. I can't fathom what they're thinking. But it bugs me that some people have so strong of an attitude against a company, for operating just like every other company out there. It's about as smart and mature as a ten year old who lives to 'fight the man'.
Anyways, Zune = Poopoo. M$ = The same as every other company on earth.
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16. October 2006 @ 12:21 |
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they tend to take it to the extreme, and offer failing and inadaquate products and services. i myself own a pc because i inherited it, aswell as grew up with them. i have an ibook, so theres a reliable OS.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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16. October 2006 @ 13:05 |
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handsom
I have tried new OS's and its all the same dosnet play alot of games dsnet support the programs I use,I will be trying lunix yet again next year to see if it can meet most of my needs.
With that said MS dose make nice stuff but they are either needlessly costly or poorly thought out and in case of the 360 at lunch it was both,its still limping from the launch even today....Vita it a double edged sword with a dull blade as a handle,the zune is just another mp3 player.
MS can do better but they simply wont like any good corporation they tow the line of forum,function,quality and in the end most of the time pay their CEOs to much and don't put enough effort into the things they sell.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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NightSurf
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5. November 2006 @ 06:35 |
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Are you sure? My understanding is that the Zune will ADD the time bomb when it transfers anything.
Regardless:
I give it maybe 2 weeks before someone hacks the firmware and disables DRM adding completely and permanently.
Another 2 weeks and someone will develop a "Zune Emulator" so you can interface with your PC.
G'Bless the Hackers.
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voyager
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5. November 2006 @ 09:30 |
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So all we want is a DRM killer
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5. November 2006 @ 12:08 |
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NightSurf
the time bomb is only on files traded/given to others.
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NightSurf
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6. November 2006 @ 07:35 |
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Right, I was unclear:
I believe the Zune will actually ADD the bomb when transferring to another Zune whether the file already has DRM or not.
Example: You rip a CD to your computer, copy it to the Zune. No DRM. When you transfer it to another Zune it will add the bomb at that point.
I think.
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frabgod
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6. November 2006 @ 08:35 |
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Nightsurf is correct, the DRM gets applied to any songs shared wirelessly - whether they originally have DRM or not.
I guess it's a protection against a file being stripped of DRM, or ripped from CD, and being passed around.
I think though that it only applies to files sent wirelessly. i.e. if someone emails you a song, and you sync it to your Zune from your PC, DRM does not get applied.
Note: we've posted a visual of Zune's menu and options hierarchy at the Zunerama site: http://www.zunerama.com
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