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XP piracy rates drop thanks to campaign and WGA
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article published on 19 October, 2006
Microsoft Corp.'s latest tactic against those pirating its software in the U.K. appears to be paying off, and has reduced the piracy rate sooner than expected.
The software maker's "Keep IT Real" programme, which it first launched back in February, has seen piracy rate for its Windows XP operating system drop from 16.7 percent to 12.4 percent according to its head of antipiracy for the ... [ read the full article ]
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gogochar
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19. October 2006 @ 12:00 |
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It's about time they've reduced the piracy in XP machines. Now, if only they could put a stop to the holes they put in all their machines...
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19. October 2006 @ 12:04 |
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Oh please!
Do they honestly think that they are looking to win this battle...sure hope not.
Not to mention, who doesn't have a copy of WinXP and can even get an open one.
Ah...I remember when the WGA had a work around the same day that it launched. Was pretty funny.
As far as their trying to get pirated copies of Office taken care of...good luck with that one.
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The_Fiend
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19. October 2006 @ 13:16 |
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Every time they put out a new WGA, it's cracked within a day..
I've had more customers with illegal versions of XP than legal ones so far, so who are they kidding here ?
Those numbers cannot be correct.
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19. October 2006 @ 13:43 |
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Well, there's an interesting problem there.
A majority of the users with pirated copies (a majority, no all of them) don't even realize that it's pirated. A lot of times, small computer shops or independent computer repair people will install these pirate copies of windows and office, without the user being aware they are illegal. Some of them will charge customer after customer after customer for the same copy that he downloaded illegally. And it messes over the end user who in many cases, has no idea.
Fortunately, M$' WGA technology doesn't seem all too interested in necessarily *tracking down* pirated copies; because really there are a lot of people who have no idea; instead it seems geared at simply disabling updates and patches. That's an interesting approach. It's rather interesting how that works.
In fact, in the past M$ has been willing to replace illegitimate software keys for users who have been sold fake products, in return for information on where they got it. I don't know how much they can really do with the information, but it seems like a good way to make people aware of piracy around them.
I'm hoping they keep the same attitude, it's a positive way to make strides in this issue; and it doesn't penalize the innocent victims, as some other software houses have before.
If I buy a new computer, I don't want to get slapped with a fine, because the technicians didn't use a genuinely authentic windows key. But on the other hand, they're selling me a bundle of illegal goods as though they are authentic, I don't mind if M$ goes in and shuts them down.
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19. October 2006 @ 14:14 |
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lmfao...nope...cant...stop...lmfao
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19. October 2006 @ 15:25 |
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hahaha this is halerious.
first of all, they only surveyed the Uk
second, when the wga is updated, a couple of hours later the update is cracked. so obviously M$ thinks they are going to win when in reality there are programmers out there that can hand Microsoft's ass to them. It the same with all companies...like the psp that Sony makes. they think they can update the firmware and the thing gets hacked.
So M$ can start worrying about Vista as it will too be on the internet and get hacked
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19. October 2006 @ 16:53 |
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hehhe, their will always be someone/people who will figure a way around this stuff.
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19. October 2006 @ 19:10 |
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didnt stop me :)
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BlinkN
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19. October 2006 @ 19:37 |
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Are you implying something their? :p
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SGSeries2
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19. October 2006 @ 20:14 |
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Legitimacy? Drop in piracy? That's not what I see. All I see is a company falsely accusing its own user-base of "pirating" their own legally and legitimately purchased version of windows. When you have to call up some "MS rep" half way across the world to "verify" that you are using your own copy of windows legally and legitimately just to repair your intallation, someone's going to get pissed. *Re-reads WinXP license agreement, then looks at Win Vista's license agreement.* That's it. Games or no games, I'm switching to Linux.
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duckNrun
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19. October 2006 @ 20:36 |
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and lets not forget that MS also considers MS Authentic Software on Authentic CD's as illegal if they are not sold in the manner that MS wants them to be sold in (based upon license agreements as well).
This means that they consider a legit copy of some OEM surplus (but unused!) Discs sold as 'CD Only' or 'White Box' as illegal software! They even state that authentic RETAIL MS software ONLY comes in an origional MS box with all papers adn booklets and if it comes otherwise then it is NOT legit. Nevermind that the PID is authentic and never has been used. Nevermind that the disc and PID were BOTH purchased from an authorized MS dealer....
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kaosX
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19. October 2006 @ 23:01 |
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yeah, WGA forced me back into win2k, until i found out my school offers free XP pro, WGA and all!
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20. October 2006 @ 00:35 |
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the only problem with this is there is a new windows activation crack that dosen't mess with winlogon it messes with another system file and thw wga is bull because hackers have cracked the plugin as well
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20. October 2006 @ 02:03 |
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I have installed SP1 with WGA and SP2 with WGA on 4 machines for friends and family.....3 of them I had to call in to MS in oder to get a install code to shut WGA up,WGA is very anti consumer and god forbid you use XP to test hardware and such because it whines to MS after 2 or 3 have been replaced or installed.
Its gotten to the point where I simply don't use anything but SP1 with no WGA I refuse to touch SP1 WGA is ad/spy ware you cant get rid off...
tabletpc
witch dose not work on SP2,they update SP2 and keep keep it squirmy enough as to where it can LOCK the PC at any time forcing safe mode only and vista is going to have LESSER safe mode,basically until they stop actively fcking with WGA I will not update from SP1.
The_Fiend
yes and no,because when WGA fails it locks the system down into safe made and sometimes removes net access,the cracks are as bad as WGA itself and in the end pointless.
duckNrun
and they wonder why people circumvent the pleasure of paying 100-200 for a OS that constantly fcks with you.
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Jusef
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20. October 2006 @ 03:53 |
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Does this mean that more people have bought a real Xp or just stop useing it?
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SGSeries2
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20. October 2006 @ 07:49 |
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Lol. I actually thought about that just after I posted, and got a quick laugh out of it: Since there's no mention of a 4% or so rise in profits from this, as I'm sure they would consider that a worthy bit of information to tell the press. I can see them scratching their heads right now trying to figure out what's going on with their sales.
It means a massive move towards linux is underway, and, them, stuck in their greed and "intellectual copyrights" crusade, are either absolutely oblivious to what is really going on, or shaking in their shoes. (I would guess the former.) They're losing their install base to another "competitor".
(Note: Don't take this post too seriously. This is obviously high speculation on my part, but it does make you wonder, and it's clear what my decision was from my last post.)
Take it to the man where it hurts most: his wallet.
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20. October 2006 @ 08:25 |
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My XP Pro is jacked from internet and it worked FLAWLESSLY for years ................. up until of course MS did that "you ain't gettin' no updates of your choosin" which in turn was circumvented by the WGA crack where you just paste the javascript 'no check' thing into the URL and then MS beat that and then I just grabbed a volume license key from my job as a consultant and now VOILA! I'm legal. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
If there is one thing for certain and RIGHTFULLY SO.....Just as a cook of a restaurant should get his food for free because he's cookin' it......................IT peeps get their sh*t for free because we have the intelligence and know-how to do it. Besides.......who do the end-users rely on when there's a problem..........ME, US, Information Technology pros. WE ARE THE COOKS OF THE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY RESTAURANT! HA HA HA
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20. October 2006 @ 10:02 |
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First of all, these are MYSTICAL numbers they have conveniently come up with and all they are really trying to do here is make it seem that their new methods are working else the people who came up with the new scheme would be out of a job.
Second, most legitimate resellers would not put illegal copies of Windows on customer?s machines unless they want to go to jail anytime soon. Maybe if we are talking China would that happen on a grand scale but not in the US unless it is to friends. You may buy a used PC with illegal software on it but again not from a reparable dealer.
Third, you can still use XP SP2 as long as you strip out the WGA updates, there is only a couple, all of the security and recommended updates will work fine and not cause you problems. These updates can be obtained from several sites on the internet, you do not have to go to Microsoft to get them.
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duckNrun
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20. October 2006 @ 10:04 |
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i'm not so sure that silicon soup sounds too tasty...
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20. October 2006 @ 14:42 |
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Mr-Movies
MS gets its numbers from the mafiaa ^^
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BlinkN
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20. October 2006 @ 16:02 |
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I want to join the mafiaa. Where do I sign up?
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AfterDawn Addict
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20. October 2006 @ 16:06 |
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I don't think the RIAA is taking in new thugs and henchmen.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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20. October 2006 @ 16:53 |
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I to have XP PRO I err picked up off the net( wont run through Windows Update), havent had any problems with updates at all, automatic updates downloads them and i choose what it installs so no WGA crap.
More than likely the decrease in piracy is more people are now aware of WGA so they dont bother with Windows Update and just get updates how i do.
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20. October 2006 @ 17:08 |
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Andrew691
lucky you,BTW if its SP1 windows update and automatic updates wil end this year.
they will then starting forcing you to SP2....
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20. October 2006 @ 21:47 |
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Yeah it has SP2 slipstreamed into it so all is good for now.
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