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gary431
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20. October 2006 @ 05:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What are your thoughts on this? Is there any downside? Thanks.
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20. October 2006 @ 11:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Argumentative by just about everyone on the net...

My thoughts....eh, they changed the interface.

That's it.

No new ideas, nothing spectacular....and whatever you do, don't go listening to all the ego hype from Microsoft's top gurus and VPs...IE 7 is just that.... Internet Explorer.

It not only carries the same bugs that IE6 still has....it has brought more to the table.
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20. October 2006 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's free, though. So, if you have some time on your hands, download and install it. It looks cooler than IE6.
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20. October 2006 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm i saw IE7 out.. not sure if ill get it or not though..


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20. October 2006 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would not use IE at all. It's like having an open door onto your computer. Incidentally, a security flaw was discovered within hours of Microsoft's release of IE7.

http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/
http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=47201

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
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I have downloaded and used IE7, not much more than IE6 besides tabbed browsing. I stick to Firefox because it can be tweaked and is a better program to use for surfing the net if you want to keep adware and spyware off your computer.

IE7 is something that looks good IMO but does not really have the features as other browsers do.


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20. October 2006 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, like seb32 said, it's free. But then again, so is Firefox, Opera, and Netscape. All of which had the same features as IE7 at LEAST a year ago.

I've been using IE7 at work since the beta was released, and it's just as stable as IE6. Just as crappy too. I prefer Netscape or Firefox.
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20. October 2006 @ 13:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IE is ok I suppose, but I've found that Opera does the job much better. Especially if you surf multiple pages at once. I use IE (v6 I think) every once and a while when Opera fails to view a web page correctly, (which hardly happens anymore with the newest version) but other than that it pretty much doesn't see the light of day on my PC.
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20. October 2006 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Incidentally, a security flaw was discovered within hours of Microsoft's release of IE7.

Refresh your news feeds!!!!! The flaw that was found is actually one for OutLook Express.


http://bink.nu/Article8571.bink
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20. October 2006 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got a email saying that they(i.e. yahoo) suggest I upgrade to IE7. It says it is so much better than IE6 but does not say that their is other programs too that are so much better.

This is where this forum shows how useful it is by people telling their true honest opinions about computer products instead of what corporations try to make people believe about their products.


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20. October 2006 @ 23:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm more inclined to believe Secunia than Microsoft. Regardless, an unpatched flaw is inexcusable, even if it isn't Highly Critical.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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20. October 2006 @ 23:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ah, yes, Opera rocks!

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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23. October 2006 @ 09:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have been using IE7 for a few days now, cannot say I have noticed any problems/issues. As to if its "better" than other versions the jury is out on that one!
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23. October 2006 @ 16:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Firefox v2.0 releases tomorrow! IE7 is already going to be a browser of the past again IMHO.


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23. October 2006 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does IE7 contain anything that I may not want? I mean does it kill anything. Microsoft has a nasty habit of adding things and not telling anybody about it. I have come to not trust them very much anymore. Thanks

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23. October 2006 @ 23:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I suspect so, though I haven't tried IE7 much. The thing is, the general move of Microsoft - and this is what Vista is all about - has been towards it's so-called "Trustworthy Computing Initiative". There are two end goals of TCI/TCA. The first is to eliminate DRM circumvention, which has been used, among other things, to break Microsoft's much-touted DRM schemes. No DRM, no encryption, no matter how strong, can be effective as long as people can simply bypass it. Worse still, from Microsoft's and the RIAA's point-of-view, if people can get their hands on decryption keys, as happened with DVD, then it's all over - the DRM isn't even an inconvenience, let alone actually stopping people. The idea behind Vista is to move all that stuff into high priviledge levels, move it into the kernel, and use other hardware-enforcement mechanisms so it can't be bypassed.

The second is increased - and eventually, total - reliance on external approval and authentication mechanisms to run any kind of software, sort of like how TMPGEnc works now. Although billed as a security mechanism, there are a lot of obvious holes in that and it clearly is more intended to create time-limited and/or web-based software. Te problem with this trend is that people may have to pay monthly or yearly to use a software package, rather than simply buy a product and own it forever.

I suspect that IE7 is likely to contain more of the enforcement mechanisms for this, especially the latter portion of TCA. Unfortunately, IE7 is mainly a user-mode product whereas the above mostly concerns kernel-mode and higher-priviledge operations, so I doubt IE7 will be significantly more secure. TCI/TCA really isn't intended to concern itself with the user-mode flaws that create exploits in the first place. Indeed, a number of the flaws are in fact features - e.g. downloadable ActiveX controls - so very little is likely to happen.

Just my 2 pennies.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
Shado36
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24. October 2006 @ 04:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well that really sucks (not you post, the implications of it!!) I can only hope that you are wrong (but I doubt it). Also sadly what can be done about it though? All move to Mac's? Makes you wonder if they would go the same way if they became as popular etc. I think the whole thing about WGA sucks, I have 1 pc and two laptops and I fail to see why I should have to but three of the same MS programs.


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24. October 2006 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I wish I could be wrong. Unfortunately, I think Microsoft is confident that few people will switch to Mac or Linux or whatever. Frankly, the way Linux is going, I don't think it'll ever be a viable option for most people, and Apple isn't much of a threat. Although I'm usually a laissez-faire capitalist pig, I would like to see done to Microsoft what was done to Standard Oil.

-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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