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Kimmi8
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20. November 2006 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,

My DVD-RW disc of recorded music videos from my dvd recorder reads
as DVD VR when its inserted into the cd/dvd drive... Why?

Also I am unable to import the dvd video folder into my ulead software program (which it should do) The program says the disc is css protected.
Would finalizing the disc in my recorder make this a regular dvd video disc, or should I format the disc into dvd video format?

Thank you,
Kimmi
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21. November 2006 @ 07:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finalizing the disc will make most programs recognize it as a normal DVD-Video disc. DVD-VR and DVD+VR are the formats used by standalone recorders. They differ from DVD-V (ie a normal DVD) in that they're not automatically closed (finalized) and can be edited without authoring a new disc.

It's likely the error message you're getting isn't because Ulead actually thinks it's CSS protected, but rather because it doesn't know what the problem is and it's giving you the default error.
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21. November 2006 @ 08:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use a Panasonic dvd recorder and my PC can't open an 'unfinalized' disk, period.I can only use 'finalized' in my other standalone players or PC.
If I try to import the files into the likes of DVD Shrink (or other authoring programs which honour CSS) I get the same CSS error that you get.
The way around it is to run 'AnyDvd' in the background.
You can get a 30 day trial here:

http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html



EDIT:I just used (free) dvdDecrypter to rip the disk to a folder and the files are now unprotected.
http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

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Kimmi8
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21. November 2006 @ 14:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you!
Kimmi
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23. November 2006 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In the future make sure to change your recorder's settings to Video mode instead of VR mode.
Kimmi8
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24. November 2006 @ 14:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How can I set the mode to video? I don't think there are any video mode options. I have philips DVDR 3390 recorder. There are audio format options and region settings, but I don't see any video mode on the system menu.

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25. November 2006 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think DVD+/-RW is 'VR' before you finalize it in your recorder.
Once finalized you can use it in any player.
It's the 'finalizing' that makes it into a video disc.
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25. November 2006 @ 05:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have an older Pioneer. In disc setup there are 2 choices, VR Mode and Video Mode. It notes that Video Mode is best for playing the discs in other players (the resultant disc looks like a normal DVD with a VIDEO_TS folder). To use the Pioneer's editing functions though, VR Mode must be used. Pioneer warns that it's VR Mode discs may not play in other standalones. Finalizing a disc does not change things on my recorder, I have to make the choice up front.

The Phillips might do it differently, try the 'Make Compatable' function.

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25. November 2006 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My understanding was that most DVD Recorders don't give you the choice to make DVD-V discs, but should all give you a DVD that can be played by a standalone player or read normally by a computer as a DVD-V discs as long as you finalize.

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25. November 2006 @ 06:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My Panasonic doesn't offer an option between VR and R during setup.
When burning DVD-RW it creates VR.
Only by explicitly 'finalizing' does the VR become 'V'.
I had a Samsung model which had the same behaviour (using DVD RW media).
Because of the limited editing features offered by the recorder, I would certainly prefer to be offered a choice in setup and I would opt for a compatible output.
These remarks only apply to DVD-RW media of course.I only use RW or RAM disks in the machine.
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25. November 2006 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by vurbal:
My understanding was that most DVD Recorders don't give you the choice to make DVD-V discs, but should all give you a DVD that can be played by a standalone player or read normally by a computer as a DVD-V discs as long as you finalize.

That may be true now but the Pioneer DVR 220 I have most definately gives you this choice as I've stated, and a program like NeroVision Express 3 also gives you a choice when creating a DVD between DVD-Video and VR (which it also calls an Editable DVD).

A VR disc created and finalized in my Pioneer will not play in my standalones. Instead of a standard VIDEO_TS folder I end up with a DVD_RTAV folder which contains a VR_MOVIE.VRO file.

I guess newer hardware might use a different approach.
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