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27. December 2006 @ 06:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hope this is the right forum for this question. Here goes, O.K. I got this kooky idea...Rip a DVD to the hard drive of my CPU, use WME9 to crop, deinterlace, reverse telecine, and upconvert to 1920x1080 pixels, convert to .wmv file, then stream to HDTV through xbox 360. Am I the only crackpot to think of this? The problems start with getting the .VOB files into a format that WME9 will recognize without losing picture quality/compressing to .AVI or mp4 etc. From there it may be a piece of cake! LOL! Any thoughts or suggestions (other than "give up!"??
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27. December 2006 @ 14:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well it's probably possible, but why? HD master>SD DVD = Loss of Detail. SD DVD>1920x1080 will not put that detail back in. Once it's gone, it's gone. The inordinate amount of time it will take is really not worth what minimal gain there may (not) be. If the source is a long movie, then the up conversion may well simply amplify any MPEG-2 Compression artifacts that are not that noticeable at the moment.

EDIT: You should probably PM a mod and ask if they'll move this into either the General Video Discussion forum or the HDTV forum, as this has nowt to do with DVD authoring.

EDIT 2: OMFG! You have a hard drive built in to your CPU! That's one gorram small hard drive! ;-)

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27. December 2006 @ 20:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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EDIT 2: OMFG! You have a hard drive built in to your CPU! That's one gorram small hard drive! ;-)
Very Funny! You got me! LOL! Why go through the whole process you ask? 1. to see if it can be done, 2. Is this process entirely different than what upconverting DVD players do, but to 1080p with this process?

Yes, if possible it would take quite a while. The trick, I think, is to find a format that WME recognizes without compressing the file.
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28. December 2006 @ 03:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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2. Is this process entirely different than what upconverting DVD players do, but to 1080p with this process?
If you want upconversion to 1080p there are DVD players that can already do this:

http://www.oppodigital.com/dv981hd/index.html
http://www.audioholics.com/productreview...eo1080pDVD1.php
http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_DVD_HD96...7-31629429.html
http://www.hometheaterstore.com/ProductD...tCode=DVD2930CI

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28. December 2006 @ 06:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You could frameserve via AVISynth letting it do all the cropping, IVTC'ing, etc. as well as upsizing. There are some filters/scripts you could check out to for adding pseudo detail. Only advantage though is if your hardware has a crappy upsizer.
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28. December 2006 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Creaky, thanks for moving the thread.

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If you want upconversion to 1080p there are DVD players that can already do this
Sure, but why make things easy?! lol

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You could frameserve via AVISynth
Would this compress the video at all or keep the same level of original detail?

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28. December 2006 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chiknltl:
Would this compress the video at all or keep the same level of original detail?
This depends. You can either use the .avs to encode from, or watch from the avs directly. If you watch directly it'll probably be like watching a sideshow though!

EDIT: That didn't actually answer the question did it! Sorry, the frame serving itself will not re-compress the video, nor lose any detail (unless you use it to downsize)

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