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Xbox 360 v2 codenamed Zephyr
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article published on 5 January, 2007
Recently, a few photos have popped up on the Internet of a very interesting change in Microsoft's latest console, the Xbox 360. From what inside sources say, the next generation of consoles to come out of Redmond will feature a true HDMI port on the back of the newest version, codenamed Zephyr. This HDMI port will give the 360 the much needed capability of true digital 1080p support. Aside ... [ read the full article ]
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5. January 2007 @ 05:56 |
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As an owner of an Xbox 360 for over a year now, having collected it on launch day in fact, i am upset that a neweer model will have HDMI and possible HD DVD internal drive eventually. I just find those kind of console updates unfair to us early-adopters at this early stage - let me trade in my old one + $100 and u got a deal.
I understand differences to design and solving issues with heating etc. but providing a console that is more HD-ready & capable... I mean to actually have hardware upgrades this early makes me wonder.
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tnarulz
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5. January 2007 @ 06:03 |
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I agree I was thinking of getting a 360 but I decided the possibility of something like this happening was pretty good so I am going to wait until 08.
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Ace_2
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5. January 2007 @ 08:03 |
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Why didn't they do this when it first came out? This is dumb.
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hughjars
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5. January 2007 @ 08:16 |
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This has been coming for ages (esp tales of the cooler, cheaper & more efficient 65nm processor).
It's still quite likely for HDMI to appear as an add-on little unit for existing XBox 360's apparantly (IIRC Microsoft have said there is no technical reason why the existing XBox 360 can't have one) and I'd expect the HDD to be something they can use too.
Personally I'm quite happy to have my XBox 360 HD-DVD add-on as I always did plan on it being my next PC's HD-DVD rom drive anyways (it's easily removed from it's box & installed as an internal drive).
It actually suits me far more than one integral to the XBox 360 would be.
But how come early-adopters always get upset at progress and the fact that is is what always happens to early adopters?
I mean, how many times does this have to happen before people get wise to why it isn't the greatest idea to be an early adopter?
Do Sony let you trade in you TV when they make changes and bring out a new model or your old 'big' PS2 when it went slim?
Or since when did Pioneer take your old DVD player off your hands when the newer better cheaper latest model appears?
Etc etc.
It's the dumbest idea going, frankly.
Welcome to the adult (real) world.
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5. January 2007 @ 08:26 |
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This isn't great for early adopters but I think Microsuck or even local game stores might strike you a deal. As I know there was an ad for my local gamestop around Christmas time that said "Get $80-$100 for your regular XBox (depending on age, condition etc.) towards a 360". I think they would strike you a deal for your 360 v1 towards the 360 v2.
The HDMI thing wouldn't get me to trade mine in as my HDTV doesn't support 1080p, only 1080i which I am more then happy to play in. The extra HDD space would be cool but isn't really needed at the moment unless you store a lot of music on your 360 plus if needed I am sure I can just add it on to my 360 v1.
Cooler processor? eh, I don't care for that either as mine hasn't over heated and I have been playing it at least 4 hours a day since Christmas day.
But if you think about it this is the reason consumers love competition. It means, for the most part, higher quality products at cheaper price points. The first 360 didn't support 1080p or have HDMI and it had "only" a 20GB hdd. Then $ony came along and introduced the PS3 with true 1080p via HDMI and a bigger hard drive then the 360. This caused Microsuck to rethink some of the XBox's "weaknesses" and create a newer, better (then the 360 v1) system.
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hughjars
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5. January 2007 @ 11:31 |
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[quote=pop_smith]I know there was an ad for my local gamestop around Christmas time that said "Get $80-$100 for your regular XBox (depending on age, condition etc.) towards a 360". I think they would strike you a deal for your 360 v1 towards the 360 v2.
- Exactly.
You sell the old kit on and go for the new if you're that bothered.
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5. January 2007 @ 13:32 |
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This is EXACTLY why you should not on launch day! lol
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5. January 2007 @ 18:25 |
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Well that sucks for us but at least (most of us) can get backups unlike the guys that get the new 360.
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gozilla
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6. January 2007 @ 00:44 |
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how that the 360 comes with an internal HD drive, does that mean games are going to come out on that format, or is it simply just for movies??
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hughjars
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6. January 2007 @ 06:13 |
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If it turns out that the new V2's internal drive is HD-DVD (I can't see that confirmed anywhere) I expect it'll be like the new Toshiba ones and able to read anything (except Blu-ray).
They have already said that much of the HD-DVD processing is done in the XBox 360 unit and not the HD-DVD add-on itself, so I can't see any reason why not if the developers choose to do it that way.
I'd say it's probably an option but whether anyone prefers to take it up and use it is another matter.
Maybe when the sales numbers show there are either enough HD-DVD add-on drives and/or there are enough V2's around with the HD-DVD combi drive built in then it's possible I guess.....if someone reckons they can do it justice and make enough money.
When much money is potentially concerned it's hard to say never.
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6. January 2007 @ 08:24 |
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When the PS2 slimline came out there was an offer the first week that if you handed in your old PS2 in working condition, and up to 5 certain games, you would get $150 i store credit at Gamestop/EB Games. this essentially gave you a free slimline for that trade in. Or you could just do the old PS2 and pay the $50 difference. So there usually are deals for those early adopters to upgrade at a cheaper price.
It is the price paid for getting things early, everything from special and unrated DVD's to equipment with newer and better features. Although I do believe Microsoft just had to be arrogant and give the Xbox a whole 4 year console life, while the PS@ to PS3 had a 6 year console life. Maybe in that extra year that could have made a few enhancements!
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6. January 2007 @ 11:01 |
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I was thinking of buying an Xbox360, but since this is supposed to come out, I guess I'll just wait. If I'm lucky, there might be a price drop around the same time.
It's Festivus for the rest of us!
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6. January 2007 @ 12:56 |
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@gozilla
no where in that article did it say that v2 will come w/ an internal HD-DVD drive
also, MS has already said numerous times that they won't be putting any games out on HD-DVD so don't worry about that.
if this is true, the 120Gb drive would be nice though.
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gozilla
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6. January 2007 @ 13:39 |
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6. January 2007 @ 13:58 |
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got this from another site Quote:
Dean T. of the Mercury News just made an oops and leaked some Xbox 360 announcements Microsoft was planning on dropping next week at CES. Not only does he mention the improved Xbox 360s with 120GB hard drives and HDMI ports, he also talks about the use of the Xbox 360 as an IPTV set-top-box.
The leak says Microsoft?s IPTV services will have instant channel change, multiple picture-in-picture, broadcast shows, video on demand, and DVR functionality?gotta use those 120GB for more than just trailers.
I doubt M$ will bother will internal HD-DVD they make more money off having it external.
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6. January 2007 @ 14:21 |
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I guess microsoft just should have waited until they got their crap together before releasing this thing. Instead they rushed it out to get ahead of sony and now everyone who bought one is screwed. I mean I would be so mad if I was dumb enough to have bought one of these. I seriously doubt the price will remain the same as the article states. What is the price going to be? Around $600 bucks?
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6. January 2007 @ 17:07 |
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This wont be so bad AS long as they offer the extras in the new model as upgrades for the old.
its not bad but at the same time not good for people that beta tested for MS on the first wave...
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6. January 2007 @ 17:46 |
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All the more reasons to wait and buy one later!
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oppenheim
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6. January 2007 @ 19:31 |
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does the new version of the xbox 360 need a new Xtreme firmware???
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6. January 2007 @ 20:12 |
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As for firmware. We will have to be patient. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a pretty well redesigned from the ground up console hit the shelves. If I was M$ senior management the firmware hack and the weakness in the dvd drive is a hole I would certainly want addressed before they hit the shops.
I know for a fact that a senior member of the M$ console manufacturing team (resources) was very interested in the possibilities of liquid cooling of the cpu and gpu, enough to contact a homebrew modder and ask some really technical questions about it, and the effectiveness of the system.
We will have to wait and see what happens.
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6. January 2007 @ 21:21 |
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If they do come out with the 120 gig hard drive. It's more than likely MS will have it so it's backward compatible with the v1 360.(At My local Downtown Best Buy They have the Hard Drives In Stock and are selling them pretty quickly) I have A 360 and I'm not too concerned over the HDMI support It plays just fine on my TV. What They Should do is come out with a limited edition 360 where the casing is either transparent or a nice polished chrome! :D
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oppenheim
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7. January 2007 @ 04:33 |
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"Will this make the version 1 consoles cheaper since it offers fewer options? Despite the fact the new console should be cheaper to make on a 65nm, including HDMI means Microsoft has to pay royalties on every console sold. Add into the fact it will need a separate !!!firmware!!! to the version 1 consoles and you?ve increased the work, and cost, on your development team."
does the firmware that bit-tech talking about is the one we need to hack the xbox 360????
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7. January 2007 @ 05:39 |
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well this is a interesting thought MS can control money bleeding on the 360 is they are in fact losing money on it,by releasing a new model once ever 1-3 years and never lowering the price of it.
rev v 2
new CPU
new mobo
new HDD(altho I think it will be a add on and not with the console)
rev 3(around 090-011)
more effecaint cpu/mobo?
120GB HDD
HDDVD
I think MS has a good idea,bad for consumers but tis a good idea.
they really should have just made it in parts and you can add as you go this new "core" every few years is a frighting idea on one hand...on the other it saves us from 15 revisions of 1 console toned down to a max of 5 revisions and a price drop of 100 every 2-4 years.
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nfatoys
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8. January 2007 @ 03:44 |
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It appears that they also missed the boat on another important upgrade; compatibility with older XBox games. I didn't buy a 360 for this reason alone. But, if they'd include backward compatibility in a new release, I'd get one in a heartbeat.
Microsoft, you boned your loyal customers on the first release of the XBox 360, please don't do it again!
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8. January 2007 @ 09:44 |
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@nfatoys
they have backward compt., but not for all titles atm. they keep releasing bc for older titles about every couple of months.
also, why not just use your xbox 1 for xbox 1 titles, that why you won't wear out the laser as fast on your 360.
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