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Originally posted by kitty66:
I have not purchased Clone yet. It's trial expired before I could ever get it to work. I am still debating whether to buy it now or not. I have filled out the order form twice only to cancel it thinking...another 40 bucks...and do I know if it will work????????? If I knew it was going to work I would buy it in a second.
kitty i know CloneDVD 2 isn't is as intensive on your CPU as DVD Shrink is but can't say that would solve your problem.if your had the program you would use it so it def. not a waste of money and they run specials on the program about everyother month so look for thoses
I have to think for a little while about how much my curiosity is worth? So far 78% no problems with AnyDVD uninstalled and cleaned off. I love this program I want it to work. I am posting to the forum you showed us too. This is becoming quite a thread! I very much appreciate you taking your time to help (and you too PacMan77), especially when it keeps DRAGGING ON like this. (Can you tell this is bumming me out?)
don't stress out sweetie we will keep after it and solve the problem OK!! so hang in there
I use a cooling pad on the laptop and my power is from the inverter. Very consistent pure sign wave power. I only do the rips when I am plugged in. Am I just f'in doomed??????????
lets hope not. but i sure wish you had a desktop machine lol. if "RipIt4Me is crashing and DVD Fab Decrypter also then it looks like CloneDVD 2 is our only hope left other then Intervideo DVD Copy 5
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also Kitty some drives just have problems transcoding some dvds . i had that happen with my Lite-On .i stick it in my Plextor and vooom away with that drive. so did you try updating the firmware on your drive? and what model drive is in that Laptop?
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OK, I'll stop stressing. I hate not being able to solve things right away!! Thank you. I am thinking of rolling back the versions to one of the beta's that was working for me, whaddya think? Can I even still get them?
I did manage to get a log from AnyDVD ripper when it went ok onto my HD I just could not do anything with those files from there:
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 3868 (3868 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 531 (531 out)
Found VCID 3/1 at LBA 645 (645 out)
Found VCID 4/1 at LBA 7791 (7791 out)
Found VCID 5/1 at LBA 8321 (8321 out)
Found VCID 5/2 at LBA 8437 (8437 out)
Found VCID 5/3 at LBA 8554 (8554 out)
Found VCID 5/4 at LBA 8671 (8671 out)
Found VCID 5/5 at LBA 8788 (8788 out)
Found VCID 6/1 at LBA 8905 (8905 out)
Found VCID 7/1 at LBA 9435 (9435 out)
Found VCID 7/2 at LBA 9552 (9552 out)
Found VCID 7/3 at LBA 9669 (9669 out)
Found VCID 7/4 at LBA 9786 (9786 out)
Found VCID 7/5 at LBA 9903 (9903 out)
Found VCID 8/1 at LBA 10020 (10020 out)
Found VCID 9/1 at LBA 10551 (10551 out)
Found VCID 9/2 at LBA 10668 (10668 out)
Found VCID 9/3 at LBA 10785 (10785 out)
Found VCID 9/4 at LBA 10902 (10902 out)
Found VCID 9/5 at LBA 11019 (11019 out)
Found VCID 10/1 at LBA 11136 (11136 out)
Found VCID 11/1 at LBA 11308 (11308 out)
Found VCID 12/1 at LBA 11423 (11423 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 75516 (75516 out)
Found VCID 3/1 at LBA 102523 (102523 out)
Found VCID 4/1 at LBA 195952 (195952 out)
Found VCID 4/2 at LBA 233970 (233970 out)
Found VCID 4/3 at LBA 301715 (301715 out)
Found VCID 4/4 at LBA 386569 (386569 out)
Found VCID 5/1 at LBA 390760 (390760 out)
Found VCID 5/2 at LBA 523124 (523124 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_2.VOB
Found VCID 6/1 at LBA 57033 (57033 out)
Found VCID 6/2 at LBA 87278 (87278 out)
Found VCID 6/3 at LBA 206339 (206339 out)
Found VCID 7/1 at LBA 256204 (256204 out)
Found VCID 7/2 at LBA 296971 (296971 out)
Found VCID 7/3 at LBA 343419 (343419 out)
Found VCID 7/4 at LBA 423825 (423825 out)
Found VCID 8/1 at LBA 438195 (438195 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_3.VOB
Found VCID 8/2 at LBA 19632 (19632 out)
Found VCID 8/3 at LBA 105730 (105730 out)
Found VCID 9/1 at LBA 131675 (131675 out)
Found VCID 10/1 at LBA 137300 (137300 out)
Found VCID 11/1 at LBA 142081 (142081 out)
Found VCID 12/1 at LBA 142086 (142086 out)
Found VCID 13/1 at LBA 180421 (180421 out)
Found VCID 14/1 at LBA 208556 (208556 out)
Found VCID 14/2 at LBA 293917 (293917 out)
Found VCID 15/1 at LBA 402433 (402433 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_4.VOB
Found VCID 15/2 at LBA 2495 (2495 out)
Found VCID 16/1 at LBA 70297 (70297 out)
Found VCID 16/2 at LBA 75154 (75154 out)
Found VCID 16/3 at LBA 197032 (197032 out)
Found VCID 17/1 at LBA 301566 (301566 out)
Found VCID 17/2 at LBA 435094 (435094 out)
Found VCID 18/1 at LBA 488574 (488574 out)
Found VCID 18/2 at LBA 502045 (502045 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_5.VOB
Found VCID 18/3 at LBA 19825 (19825 out)
Found VCID 18/4 at LBA 94449 (94449 out)
Found VCID 19/1 at LBA 147975 (147975 out)
Found VCID 19/2 at LBA 183739 (183739 out)
Found VCID 20/1 at LBA 237768 (237768 out)
Found VCID 21/1 at LBA 251649 (251649 out)
Found VCID 22/1 at LBA 255766 (255766 out)
Found VCID 23/1 at LBA 255771 (255771 out)
Found VCID 24/1 at LBA 296656 (296656 out)
Found VCID 25/1 at LBA 326013 (326013 out)
Found VCID 25/2 at LBA 425041 (425041 out)
Found VCID 25/3 at LBA 499876 (499876 out)
Found VCID 26/1 at LBA 511804 (511804 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_6.VOB
Found VCID 26/2 at LBA 71984 (71984 out)
Found VCID 26/3 at LBA 126962 (126962 out)
Found VCID 27/1 at LBA 176569 (176569 out)
Found VCID 27/2 at LBA 193338 (193338 out)
Found VCID 27/3 at LBA 269193 (269193 out)
Found VCID 28/1 at LBA 367046 (367046 out)
Found VCID 28/2 at LBA 418319 (418319 out)
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_7.VOB
Found VCID 28/3 at LBA 27598 (27598 out)
Found VCID 29/1 at LBA 66866 (66866 out)
Found VCID 29/2 at LBA 104844 (104844 out)
Found VCID 29/3 at LBA 155362 (155362 out)
Found VCID 30/1 at LBA 257963 (257963 out)
Found VCID 30/2 at LBA 282045 (282045 out)
Found VCID 31/1 at LBA 342796 (342796 out)
Found VCID 32/1 at LBA 358762 (358762 out)
Found VCID 33/1 at LBA 363090 (363090 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_03_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_0.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 220323 (220323 out)
Found VCID 3/1 at LBA 370884 (370884 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 114 (114 out)
Found VCID 3/1 at LBA 226 (226 out)
Found VCID 4/1 at LBA 338 (338 out)
Found VCID 5/1 at LBA 450 (450 out)
Found VCID 6/1 at LBA 562 (562 out)
Found VCID 7/1 at LBA 674 (674 out)
Found VCID 8/1 at LBA 786 (786 out)
Found VCID 9/1 at LBA 898 (898 out)
Found VCID 10/1 at LBA 1010 (1010 out)
Found VCID 11/1 at LBA 1122 (1122 out)
Found VCID 12/1 at LBA 1234 (1234 out)
Found VCID 13/1 at LBA 1346 (1346 out)
Found VCID 14/1 at LBA 1458 (1458 out)
Found VCID 15/1 at LBA 1571 (1571 out)
Found VCID 16/1 at LBA 1683 (1683 out)
Found VCID 17/1 at LBA 1795 (1795 out)
Found VCID 18/1 at LBA 1907 (1907 out)
Found VCID 19/1 at LBA 2019 (2019 out)
Found VCID 20/1 at LBA 2131 (2131 out)
Found VCID 21/1 at LBA 2243 (2243 out)
Found VCID 22/1 at LBA 2355 (2355 out)
Found VCID 23/1 at LBA 2467 (2467 out)
Found VCID 24/1 at LBA 2579 (2579 out)
Found VCID 25/1 at LBA 2691 (2691 out)
Found VCID 26/1 at LBA 2803 (2803 out)
Found VCID 27/1 at LBA 2915 (2915 out)
Found VCID 28/1 at LBA 3027 (3027 out)
Found VCID 29/1 at LBA 3139 (3139 out)
Found VCID 30/1 at LBA 3252 (3252 out)
Found VCID 31/1 at LBA 3364 (3364 out)
Found VCID 32/1 at LBA 3476 (3476 out)
Found VCID 33/1 at LBA 3588 (3588 out)
Found VCID 34/1 at LBA 3700 (3700 out)
Found VCID 35/1 at LBA 3812 (3812 out)
Found VCID 36/1 at LBA 3924 (3924 out)
Found VCID 37/1 at LBA 4037 (4037 out)
Found VCID 38/1 at LBA 4149 (4149 out)
Found VCID 39/1 at LBA 4261 (4261 out)
Found VCID 40/1 at LBA 4373 (4373 out)
Found VCID 41/1 at LBA 4485 (4485 out)
Found VCID 42/1 at LBA 4597 (4597 out)
Found VCID 43/1 at LBA 4709 (4709 out)
Found VCID 44/1 at LBA 4821 (4821 out)
Found VCID 45/1 at LBA 4933 (4933 out)
Found VCID 46/1 at LBA 5046 (5046 out)
Found VCID 47/1 at LBA 5158 (5158 out)
Found VCID 48/1 at LBA 5270 (5270 out)
Found VCID 49/1 at LBA 5382 (5382 out)
Found VCID 50/1 at LBA 5494 (5494 out)
Found VCID 51/1 at LBA 5606 (5606 out)
Found VCID 52/1 at LBA 5718 (5718 out)
Found VCID 53/1 at LBA 5830 (5830 out)
Found VCID 54/1 at LBA 5942 (5942 out)
Found VCID 55/1 at LBA 6054 (6054 out)
Found VCID 56/1 at LBA 6059 (6059 out)
Found VCID 57/1 at LBA 6173 (6173 out)
Found VCID 58/1 at LBA 6286 (6286 out)
Found VCID 59/1 at LBA 6398 (6398 out)
Found VCID 60/1 at LBA 6511 (6511 out)
Found VCID 61/1 at LBA 6624 (6624 out)
Found VCID 62/1 at LBA 6737 (6737 out)
Found VCID 63/1 at LBA 6850 (6850 out)
Found VCID 64/1 at LBA 6963 (6963 out)
Found VCID 65/1 at LBA 7076 (7076 out)
Found VCID 66/1 at LBA 7189 (7189 out)
Found VCID 67/1 at LBA 7301 (7301 out)
Found VCID 68/1 at LBA 7414 (7414 out)
Found VCID 69/1 at LBA 7527 (7527 out)
Found VCID 70/1 at LBA 7640 (7640 out)
Found VCID 71/1 at LBA 7753 (7753 out)
Found VCID 72/1 at LBA 7866 (7866 out)
Found VCID 73/1 at LBA 7978 (7978 out)
Found VCID 74/1 at LBA 8091 (8091 out)
Found VCID 75/1 at LBA 8204 (8204 out)
Found VCID 76/1 at LBA 8316 (8316 out)
Found VCID 77/1 at LBA 8429 (8429 out)
Found VCID 78/1 at LBA 8541 (8541 out)
Found VCID 79/1 at LBA 8653 (8653 out)
Found VCID 80/1 at LBA 8765 (8765 out)
Found VCID 81/1 at LBA 8878 (8878 out)
Found VCID 82/1 at LBA 8990 (8990 out)
Found VCID 83/1 at LBA 9103 (9103 out)
Found VCID 84/1 at LBA 9216 (9216 out)
Found VCID 85/1 at LBA 9329 (9329 out)
Found VCID 86/1 at LBA 9442 (9442 out)
Found VCID 87/1 at LBA 9555 (9555 out)
Found VCID 88/1 at LBA 9668 (9668 out)
Found VCID 89/1 at LBA 9781 (9781 out)
Found VCID 90/1 at LBA 9893 (9893 out)
Found VCID 91/1 at LBA 10006 (10006 out)
Found VCID 92/1 at LBA 10119 (10119 out)
Found VCID 93/1 at LBA 10232 (10232 out)
Found VCID 94/1 at LBA 10345 (10345 out)
Found VCID 95/1 at LBA 10457 (10457 out)
Found VCID 96/1 at LBA 10570 (10570 out)
Found VCID 97/1 at LBA 10683 (10683 out)
Found VCID 98/1 at LBA 10796 (10796 out)
Found VCID 99/1 at LBA 10909 (10909 out)
Found VCID 100/1 at LBA 11022 (11022 out)
Found VCID 101/1 at LBA 11135 (11135 out)
Found VCID 102/1 at LBA 11248 (11248 out)
Found VCID 103/1 at LBA 11361 (11361 out)
Found VCID 104/1 at LBA 11474 (11474 out)
Found VCID 105/1 at LBA 11587 (11587 out)
Found VCID 106/1 at LBA 11700 (11700 out)
Found VCID 107/1 at LBA 11813 (11813 out)
Found VCID 108/1 at LBA 11926 (11926 out)
Found VCID 109/1 at LBA 12039 (12039 out)
Found VCID 110/1 at LBA 12152 (12152 out)
Found VCID 111/1 at LBA 12265 (12265 out)
Found VCID 112/1 at LBA 12378 (12378 out)
Found VCID 113/1 at LBA 12491 (12491 out)
Found VCID 114/1 at LBA 12604 (12604 out)
Found VCID 115/1 at LBA 12717 (12717 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_05_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_06_1.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 6267 (6267 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_06_0.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
AnyDVD 6.1.1.3
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB
Remove unrefed is ON
Reset ILVU Ptrs is OFF
Found VCID 1/1 at LBA 0 (0 out)
Found Video Format: NTSC
Format Video: NTSC
Found VCID 2/1 at LBA 111 (111 out)
Found VCID 3/1 at LBA 225 (225 out)
Found VCID 4/1 at LBA 337 (337 out)
Found VCID 4/2 at LBA 449 (449 out)
Found VCID 5/1 at LBA 562 (562 out)
Found VCID 6/1 at LBA 674 (674 out)
Found VCID 7/1 at LBA 786 (786 out)
Done with VOB files. 0 navpack pointers adjusted, 0 packs removed, 0 navpack remapped, 0 navpacks ILVU flags reset
Processing E:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO
Now cleaning VTS_C_ADT
Now updating navpack info
Now updating PGC playback times
Now updating VTS sectors
Now writing IFO file
Now updating video_ts.ifo vts sectors
Now writing video_ts.ifo
Hope this has some mystery information needed...who knows!
Here is the drive : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4084N last I checked the firmware was up to date (KQ09).
Oh yes, Intel Pentium M bus speed 400MHz shoot I can't think of anything else...
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ROCK!
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28. January 2007 @ 11:25 |
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28. January 2007 @ 11:55 |
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Thanks A! I am going to try backing out to the last version that worked for me.
I'll let you know!!!!!!!!!!!
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28. January 2007 @ 12:26 |
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Great hope it works!!
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28. January 2007 @ 12:45 |
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28. January 2007 @ 13:03 |
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i am cleaning house and checking on your progress in between things. i have my fingers crossed for you lol
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28. January 2007 @ 13:51 |
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I wish you the best of luck, but I fear the problem is the PC and not the software..
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28. January 2007 @ 15:26 |
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@PacMan777 - Uh Oh...you can't just leave it at that! What do you think is wrong with it I'm not expecting detailed diagnostics, but... Like hardware, not enough memory, not enough juice, breakdown in system, she's breaking up captain??? Something ballpark if you have an idea. And...ant bully backed up just fine WTF...over?
Thanks PacMan777 hope you're having a good one.
@aabbccdd - Hey hope housecleaning was not a drag. Trying to scan disk now for errors. Will try new 6.1.1.4 with shrink in safe mode ripped to HD
Also FYI: Doing a scan of disk with VSO Inspector I keep getting alot of errors...like reading of sector failed ###### to ###### code: 00 00 00 No sense information. VTS_03_0.VOB failed as did VTS_02_1.VOB. The above mentioned was the only error listed. Is this encryption error or bad disk error. Could that many sectors, it is a grip!!!!!!!!! Be bad and still play and rip?
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28. January 2007 @ 16:49 |
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OK, done deal.
Pointers for all you out there!!!!!!!
AnyDVD updated it's update today 6.1.1.4 is working with Shrink and RipIt4me.
DVDFAB HAS CONFLICTS with AnyDVD! As does any DVDIdle product. I did not know this and was about to install again! But I must say AnyDVD 6.1.1.3 still crashed everything without dvdfabstuff.
Moral to the story...
If your AnyDVD latest update fails you in Shrink. (Or other encoders)
A. *******VERY IMPORTANT********Save your registry key to a safe place. anydvdkey is the file. Do a search for it.
B. Uninstall AnyDVD and the registry information.
C. Uninstall Shrink.
D. Run Reg Cleaner.
E. Reinstall Shrink
Now Ripit4me should work.
F. Wait for the next AnyDVD update and try again.
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28. January 2007 @ 17:02 |
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Normally when a PC keeps crashing with a number of different programs, it's an indicator something is happening with the hardware, either breaken up capn or not enough mojo to get the job done. I think you said all is well since you did a major cleanup. My well wishes worked and I'm glad I was wrong. LOL Would have answered sooner, but had to take a little road trip in the snow. The amount wasn't a problem, but it blowing in the headlihts was blinding.
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28. January 2007 @ 18:52 |
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Thanks PacMan, I am glad it is all working again too. Had me worried there for awhile. I can't just not find the answer! She can't be breaking up!
My kids call it hyperspace, waaa-hooo! Meh, waaa-hooo for them! Sometimes it can be blinding. I'd rather stay home and build sleds when it is actively blizzarding.
If it were not for you and aabbccdd I would have been mighty bent about this whole thing.
Thank you both for all of your help and good humor.
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