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DennisL
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11. August 2003 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Before I get to the question I would like to express that the forum of this website is very nice and lots of knowledgable people. Now to the question. I have been using DVDShrink version 2.3 and it really is my favorite program for compressing and backing up my DVD Collection. One in a while I run into a DVD which just gives me a read error even if it appears not scratched but has the same problem in DVDDecrypt so I presume it is just one of those things. - - Now, to the problem. I would like to know how to completely remove DVDShrink 2.3 from my system (WinME) because I think it is interfering with my newer Beta version of DVDShrink Ver 3.0 because when I open Ver 3.0 it reads the DVD disk fine, as a matter of fact it decrypts and auto compresses a DVD disk with all features even at 50% with very acceptable video quality. However, I cannot go to re-author on DVDShrink ver 3.0 because the screen just shows nothing being input from the DVD. In Windows Control Panel ADD/Remove programs there is nothing shown for DVDShrink 2.3 or DVDShrink 3.0 to remove the programs. So, I believe besides removing the DVDShrink 2.3 exe file I have to go into the registry and delete something to completely remove it. Then probably just installing the DVDShrink 3.0 Beta may work in the reauthoring mode. Any help appreciated.
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11. August 2003 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did u try re-installing it just. It should show up in the Add/remove *away to check*.

Damn - ur right - it doesnt show up in there. Did it come with an uninstaller, the reason i dont know was because i was very drunk when updating and cant remember :-(

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11. August 2003 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oriphus;

Well, it isn't in my list as it can be removed like all the other programs. My download didn't have a uninstall but some other site may. I hope we get an answer to this question. However, the automatic compress does work wonderfully as I backed up about 4 of my DVD's and they all played back in very good quality and all menu's and features intact. The only thing I noticed was if you had captions on they did flicker more than usual. I am half deaf so if I am watching a movie that the background music is really loud and I wish they would quit making movies like that, I sometimes turn the caption on so I can read the text with the movie.
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12. August 2003 @ 00:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, they dont come with uninstallers. Best thing is to find the route directory of it and delete it. When you click on re-author, it brings up a new screeen. You need to drag the files you want from the previous screen into the new screen and then compress!

DennisL
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12. August 2003 @ 11:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oriphus;

Thanks, I never thought of that, but I think it was a mistake to have the program that way. The program should have stayed the same as version 2 in that aspect. I mean when it comes up blank like that you just assume there is a problem if you are used to the way it was before. I just checked your message and will go back and try it.
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12. August 2003 @ 11:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, i agree with you. I think it is an excellent improvement in terms of features though over the version 2.3. Im happily splitting episodes and re-authoring away at the min.

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12. August 2003 @ 11:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oriphus;

Well, I'm really confused now as I cannot drag files into the new opened reauthor window. Doesn't work for me. Just doesn't work. For now I will use the earlier version for reauthoring and the new 3 version for auto compression. We can only hope the developer makes this reauthor mode work exactly as the earlier version. I really like ver 3 but am a stickler for programs that are upgraded following the same scheme of things in operation because it only makes common sense to me. When you change the operaton of a program albeit DVDShrink is a good interface,learning curves just plain waste time and patience. Too bad I quit drinking years ago or I would be having a few.
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12. August 2003 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Remember that you can only drag it into the left hadn side of the re-author screen. Not the main part!!

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12. August 2003 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oriphus

I have dragged it everywhere you can think of into the reauthor and it doesn't go there. You notice from the right click of the mouse in the main screen there is a reauthor selection. Even if I click on that and click on reauthor and go to the reauthor blank page, go back to the main screen and select for example just the main movie it won't drag the left side DVD Structure column in New DVD or of course not even to the Streams Section. Also, usually when you drag a file the cursor will change, mine stays a pointer, does your cursor change when you drag from the main screen to the reauthor screen? Maybe it has something to do with the operating system, I don't know. I use WinME and lots of people have problems with it and I never have. I tried it on two of my computers and still the files won't drag over for me.
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13. August 2003 @ 06:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I finally used it last night to make a movie only backup and it worked just fine for me. Make sure you are dragging the contents of the Main Movie folder and not the folder itself. Just click on the + next to the folder and drag the entry underneath it.

BTW, the reason it opens up a new window for reauthoring is so you can add titles from more than 1 DVD which is one of the few features I wanted that it didn't have so the interface change doesn't bother me.
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13. August 2003 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vurbal;

Thanks, yes it works that way. I really appreciate your information. I have quite a large selection of videos and DVDShrink has done a good job of backing them up. My kids are really rough on them and never put them back when I am not watching. Two of my movies wouldn't read in both DVDShrink and DVDDecrypter so I rented them and they did so I know it was the scratches on them. I have to go back and read some more in the forum because I made the backups with DVD-R disks and had a couple DVD+R disks. I have the LG 4020B mulitdrive which says writes all DVD formats but when I put a DVD+R disk in the drive just flashes for about a minute then the light goes out, but any program says disk is not recognized. So, there is something about DVD+R I guess I don't understand yet, I thought you could burn to both DVD-R and +R by just inserting the disk and burning. In any regard the DVD-R burn perfectly.
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13. August 2003 @ 14:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not familiar with that particular drive, but it may be that you need a firmware update or possibly that the burner just doesn't like that media. What brand of discs are they?
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13. August 2003 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lol - then u hadnt tried everywhere!! ;-)

DennisL
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13. August 2003 @ 20:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have quite a number of LG drives (Lucky Goldstar). Goldstar has been around for years and is very big and into everything. I can't say too much about their Air Conditioners or appliances but their burners and readers work very well. They are an inexpensive alternative to the high cost drives yet are always usually far above the middle of the pack, yet not on top. The website www.cdrlabs reviews many readers and writers if you want to visit there.Just click on the reviews menu at the top of their web page and all reviews are listed for manufacturers by alphabetial order. The drive gets very high marks except for being only 2X DVD Burn. On the plus side it will copy anything including almost all protected formats in cd games and Play Station Games. Back to DVDShrink version 3.0 for a second. Some movies have both full screen and wide screen included on the disk. I dragged the files over for full screen by clicking on the +sign of the folder and only copied the full screen title so I could fit all the extras and such into the reauthor page. The bad part was when I played the movie, nothing would work when selecting the menu on my remote. I could get the full screen to play, but not really get to the extra screen correctly. That is why I believe it is so important that you can drag the full folder from the main screen to the reauthor screen and then hit the +sign and delete what you want in the folder. Obviously you need the folder, MENU for example instead of just xferring the titles underneath the menu. I mean the reauthor had no folder called menu so how the heck can the remote find it? You really should be able to drag the entire folder over to reauthor and then do what you want with contents of the folder.
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15. August 2003 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The folder structure in DVD Shrink isn't actually used on the DVD. It's just a way for DVD Shrink to visually organize things for the user. On the actual DVD the only folder your player cares about is VIDEO_TS. What you see when you play the DVD on your standalone is read from the .VOB files by following instructions in the .IFO files.
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15. August 2003 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
vurbul;

Thanks for the info, I used reauthor and selected everything under all the + signs and just deleted the main movie because I wanted special features, however, when I make a dvd like this and put it in any of our dvd players the menu won't even come up even though I of course have selected everything on the dvd's other than the movie, but it doesn't matter. I am sure more beta versions of DVD Shrink will offer more features. Actually I think the easiest interface would be if you could just hightlight what you wanted off of the DVD your are burning and hit the delete key for whatever you want from the drop down list right in the main screen mode.
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16. August 2003 @ 05:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I always check my DVD Shrink files with IFOEdit to make sure they will play on a standalone. You can download it here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/dawnload.cfm?software_id=458&mirror=0
Open the VIDEO_TS.IFO in IFOEdit and click the Play Video button. If it plays with no errors it should play fine on a standalone. If you get an error that IFOEdit can't display subtitles you can ignore it. If it won't play, Click on the Get VTS Sectors button and IFOEdit will fix the IFO file.
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16. August 2003 @ 10:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Vurbal;

Thanks, I will download and try that program.
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16. August 2003 @ 10:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Vurbal;

Tried IFOEdit and although it says it is playing and I see the timer moving when I open a file I get a blank screen. Tried several. When opening a regular purchased DVD I get won't play as copywritten, however, when I open a DVD I made through DVDShrink everything loads fine but a blank playback screen. Of course these DVD Titles work fine in my players so I have no idea as to why playback shows a blank screen, any ideas.
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16. August 2003 @ 18:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some people have had problems running IFOEdit on Windows XP. Is that your OS? In any case I think that if IFOEdit doesn't give you any actual errors it probably means that it is authored correctly. What brand of media are you burning to?
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16. August 2003 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am running WinME and burning to Verbatim DVD-R blank DVD's. We have several DVD Players in the house and I have a combo VCR/DVD in my truck that we use to tow our 5th wheel. All the DVD's play fine in all of the players. I felt the same way, if it was actually playing it probably was ok even though it wasn't displaying.
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18. August 2003 @ 18:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are quite a few posts on the Doom9 forums
http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?s=369d3daa8a32a3f932fea149f1ebfedf&forumid=65
about reauthoring with 3.0 betas. That's probably your best shot to take care of this. And of course make sure you update to beta 5 if you haven't already.
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22. August 2003 @ 08:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
DennisL, when using DVD Shrink in re-author mode you will always lose the menu functionability. ;)
You can drag it to the "New DVD" pane but it will be treated as a normal title and will not function as a menu.

dvdshrink (the software developer) has been thinking of adding the abiltity to create a simple menu in re-author mode though. :)

As far as the confusing new interface, it will more likely change for v3.0 final release (v3.1?), and be more like v2.3. :D
Check the following thread for details:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23468
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22. August 2003 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ddlooping;

I really appreciate your feedback. When you are just copying the Special Features for example onto a DVD it certainly would be helpful to be able to use it just like a normal DVD that has the menu and all selections.

Dennis
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ddlooping
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23. August 2003 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"I really appreciate your feedback"

You're welcome. :)

I agree with the rest of your post. ;)
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