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Swap Magic SUCKS
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OhSoIns
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15. February 2007 @ 19:36 |
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Seriously I am freaking pissed off, it pisses me off everytime:
Tool C, everytime i gotta move it to make the discs work. Games work perfect sometimes, other times they take LONG TO LOAD. What The Fcuk? no seriously, i am really pissed. High quality media, high quality burner, lowest speed, and this? really, cant be the lens ps2 is 1 month old, SO SLOW LOADING TIMES, seriosuly, if I were you I would reconsider this swap magic b/s, got for 30+10 for shipping my friends got a solder modchp for 100 from chinatown and I gotta tell you, with their results, I am willing to pay 60 MORE.
T_T
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UnKn0wN15
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15. February 2007 @ 20:10 |
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im guessing you need to clean your lens...
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AngelusX
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15. February 2007 @ 20:17 |
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I use swap magic with a flip top mod and I have yet to have an issue with a backup or import. It's either your crappy system, bad media, a crap burner, or a combination of one of the aforementioned.
The first kill is always the hardest-Pipboy, Fallout Rpg
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brandonba
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15. February 2007 @ 20:37 |
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I had alot of trouble to, i sent them back and modded mine had no problems since
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15. February 2007 @ 23:44 |
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This is funny you dont know what you are doing?
May I ask how do you know your Burner is high Quality?
Use good media like ritek others work aswell (Princo,TDk) they work but are wear out your laser I wouldnt say so ive used princo and ritek only princo in my 5 year old fat ps2 and havent chnaged laser one time and of all the games its played 90% were Princos'.
Burn them at 4x For best Rsult use -R not +R unless your burner can booktype to -ROM using a +R.
Update your burners Firmware
For tool C im thinking it might be magic Keys 2 get some Blu-Tak (The sticky plasteline type reusable adshive thing) Stick it on the botton of the top of tool C slowly get the irght position ahve your ps2 on so when its right the laser will move in once you see it move in and stay push down and it will stay due to the adshive thats how mine has been for 12months now.
Swap Magic is good nothing is good unless you know how to use it a PC is no good when you dont know how to operate it but if you do its one of the best things.
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Z3120
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16. February 2007 @ 20:12 |
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I highly doubt you know what you're talking about. If you wanted to prove a point, wouldn't it have been nicer to have a little clarification of what it is you've been doing and some justification of just how high quality the equipment you are using is? Just because you state you are using a high quality product doesn't necessarily mean it is. Now, it could actually be your PS2 but that would mean you have been playing with it for an insane amount of time to deteriorate it to that point if what you say is true. And what PS2? How good is your hardware? And such and such questions follow. Being clear would be nice to understand the issue at hand.
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17. February 2007 @ 06:08 |
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I use magic keys II, ps2 slim v14 with swap magic 3.8 and have yet to have any problems with it.
I agree you need to be more specific with your problems. Someone could then help you out better.
The tools need to be in place and stuck properly, there are threads with guides here that can help you.
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17. February 2007 @ 16:19 |
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its your media. that explains it what type are you using? better yet read this
Ta ta for now ;}
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Tru_dz
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18. February 2007 @ 08:03 |
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lol ur ps2 suks
got to live for today cause tommorows not promised to me
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19. February 2007 @ 19:01 |
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lol ur ps2 suks
Well that explains alot about yourself.
Insulting people wont do anything on a forum no one cares if you are Hard I really think hard people are stupid in real life and ive dealt with some and to me they arent hard this is a forum where you help people or get help not go around insulting.
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20. February 2007 @ 07:41 |
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my swap works fine!!! just wtch your lens!!!
Tenshi
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20. February 2007 @ 07:53 |
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nothing works better than swap magic
so now you know.
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live2fast
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20. February 2007 @ 10:13 |
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swap magic 4 president!
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bigwill68
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20. February 2007 @ 14:18 |
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I NEED HELP BAD IF ANY CAN DO SO..I RECIEVED THE SWAP DISC V3.6 TODAY AND I CAN'T GET TO SEEM TO WORK THERE WAS 2 DISC'S IN THE SET DVD & CD ONE WITH 3 LITTLE PARTS ALSO..I MAYBE DOIN SOMETHING WRONG.I GOT THE PS2 SLIM V12..MODEL I BACKED UP A GAME WITH DVD DECRYTER AS A ISO FILE AND BURNED IT TO A DISC AT 2X THE SPEED AS IT SAID HERE'S THE SITE..I GOT IT FROM BELOW IF ANY ONE CAN HELP SEND ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE..THANK YOU
http://www.modchipstore.com/Slim-Tool-Sw...sole-16261.html
Done out of Here!
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duzmi
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21. February 2007 @ 02:58 |
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Originally posted by OhSoIns:
Seriously I am freaking pissed off, it pisses me off everytime:
Tool C, everytime i gotta move it to make the discs work. Games work perfect sometimes, other times they take LONG TO LOAD. What The Fcuk? no seriously, i am really pissed. High quality media, high quality burner, lowest speed, and this? really, cant be the lens ps2 is 1 month old, SO SLOW LOADING TIMES, seriosuly, if I were you I would reconsider this swap magic b/s, got for 30+10 for shipping my friends got a solder modchp for 100 from chinatown and I gotta tell you, with their results, I am willing to pay 60 MORE.
Tell my 132 backups that then mate, cos they all work perfectly with SM3.6 and flip top
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Tru_dz
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21. February 2007 @ 03:55 |
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i dont understand why people just dont get the fliptop it only a few pounds more
got to live for today cause tommorows not promised to me
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21. February 2007 @ 04:44 |
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I just read this because i liked the title.
And Swap Magic does suck.
It is a cheap start for most people, but anyone serious about backing up games or any true gamer would get a quality mod chip installed.
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live2fast
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21. February 2007 @ 07:11 |
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@steimy
everyone of your posts usually has useful information and is very helpful; however that last post is just plain obnoxious and misleading.
swap magic with fliptop or magic keys work with no problems and is the exact same thing.
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21. February 2007 @ 08:38 |
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"swap magic with fliptop or magic keys work with no problems and is the exact same thing."
True, but neither one will ever give you the functions or ease of use that a quality mod chip will.
My useful information is save your money and have a mod chip install and use those Swap Discs as frisbee's for you dog.
let me make it easier:
1. Swap Magic requires swapping of discs, a mod chip doesn't
2. Swap Magic can not play DVD9 back ups, a mod chip can
3. Swap Magic requires rebuilding of some games and special loading proceedures with others using discs like zoneloader, a mod chip doesn't
4. A good modchip will have support to run a hard drive and a built in ELF loader for homebrew applications like media players and exploits.
5. Crystal Chip V2.0 will even auto patch games for online play so no more need to manually patch them.
6. Swap Magic almost always has a little screen cut off when playing games from other regions, not with a modchip.
7. Swap magic is a royal pain to use when loading a back up game with cheats using a cheat disc. Not a problem with a modchip, in fact DMS4 Pro even has a cheat device built right in.
there is really no comparing the two.
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live2fast
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21. February 2007 @ 09:06 |
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1. true
2. there is hardly any games that use DVD9 and 99% of the ones that do can be put on a DVD5 with rebuilding.
3. true, if you don't know how to use a computer swap magic is not your best bet.
4. so can swap magic with computer knowledge.
5. windip has to be one of the easiest programs to use.... again more computer knowledge is neccesary
6. true, even on games with screen positioning =/
7. i wouldn't know because cheating on a videogame is almost as pathetic as beating retards.
a internal modchip is definitely the way to go if you don't mind voiding your warranty, and do not have knowledge with computers.
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duzmi
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21. February 2007 @ 10:05 |
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Aw not another p**sing contest pleeeeeeeeeease!
I prefer SM to chipping the ps2, it works for me and I don't see rebuilds etc as a big problem, Rogue Galaxy(US) so far is the ONLY game that I haven't been able to play fully that way, give that time and someone cleverer than I will sort it, I've been following the news on that here and on allucard.
That's just my personal preference though. Use what you're happy with and that works for you. I have chipped before and also chipped my original xbox, my other is softmodded and I have softmodded quite a few more. I got used to "boot" discs( Utopia anyone?) with the dreamcast before self booting games came about.
All I am saying is,whatever you use, if it suits your purposes and you are happy with it , then cool. I don't see the need to slag anyone off because they prefer a different method of playing a game. I am tempted to say something using the words "lamer" and "cheats" in the same sentence lol but I won't.
Chill out, we all like playing games, does it really matter to anyone else how we achieve that?
Noob?-no
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live2fast
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21. February 2007 @ 10:13 |
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actually i found the pluses steimy posted to using a modchip vs swapmagic very useful so everybody knows the exact differences.
i wouldn't really call it a pissing contest...
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21. February 2007 @ 10:22 |
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no, it is nothing personal or flaming on my part either.
It is just my feeling. when i started out i used Swap Magic for a year or so, from version 2.0 to 3.0
then i got a premodded system with a DMS4 Pro and i would never think of going back to swap discs, i hated it. The same way i would never own a softmodded system. When i want to install a hard drive i do not want to have to hotswap, just open it up and stick one in. again, just my preference to have things as easy as i can make them.
but Swap Magic for some people suites them fine. But i will still never reccomend it over a good modchip.
Did it serve it's purpose, yes
was it cheaper, yes
did it void my already void warranty, no
Difference of opinion is what makes the world go round. Without it life would be pretty boring.
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live2fast
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21. February 2007 @ 10:29 |
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haha true story.
apparently before SM3.6 there were a ton of problems with some games requiring to rebuild and patch, etc. etc.
the only game so far ive had to rebuild was gt4 so it would fit on a DVD5.
i'm not into the whole cheating scene but SM3.8 coder is supposed to be pretty good if you're looking for that.
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Z3120
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21. February 2007 @ 11:21 |
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Quite simply, it's a matter of preference. The reasons steimy noted were useful and accurate about the difference about the use of a mod-chip compared to the swap magic discs. He is quite indeed right, and he's not saying it as misrepresentation of fact nor a bias opinion, but I didn't like the statement itself by the thread starter when I posted a few days ago in this thread. The statement alone that Swap Magic sucks was uncalled for and to say it like what OhSoIns said, I personally felt that if you wanted to avoid all this trouble, he could have done some research before making those decisions and then get a mod-chip for mere convience after reading what was gathered. To those like me who just want to play import games from another region, not void their warranty, and have no interest in actually playing any backed-up or copied games, Swap Magic is nice to have that's easily accessible. With a difficulty range of easy to extremely, border-line annoyance due to the installation of a particular magic key component, it'll work out as long as you are patient - simple as that.
Btw, it would be nice if it didn't sound more of a rant (this thread). And besides, from what he was complaining about, he didn't even have to do what others have had success in. The information people have posted here are mere recommendations and what worked for them.
For example, if you want to use media like Memorex, do so. Don't have a quality burner? My TDK works fine and it can't even booktype (though now I have a LITE-ON). Don't like rebuilding games? Get a mod-chip. If you're worried and concerned about the longevity of your PS2 laser like I may have been before so you can maximize the number of years on your PS2 so you don't break it down within a mere year, then use quality media from what's suggested. Your game has slow loading times? If it was burnt better with a better burner and better media, perhaps the results would have been better compared to stuff you've been using?
But no matter what, we all should just take these into considerations into deciding what to do, but it's simply a matter up to us on what is preferred. Anyway, my rant was long, but I only wanted to clarify that Swap Magic should by no means be reconsidered unless of course you don't want to go through what the thread starter's gone through. It's an investment that works. If you wanted it to be easy, then you could have easily used the original copy to play or used a mod-chip or perhaps HD advance.
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