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Rob423
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23. February 2007 @ 15:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BLURAY VS HD-DVD quality wise. How are you guys seeing it turn out? Are you guys seeing any difference in quality when trying both?

You gotta love technology. :)
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23. February 2007 @ 16:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's hard to compare because only a few movies are in both formats, forgot the site that did comparisons, but HD DVD won by a little bit.
Movies were training Day, Rumor has it and one other one, so ya can't really go by that. Blu-ray has more space, but will it use the space to better the quality? probably not.

www.highdefdigest.com ok thats the site.

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error5
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23. February 2007 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a statistical analysis comparing HD-DVD and BluRay reviews from highdefdigest.com:

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/21/2050201
HD-DVD-formats-not-equal-238336.php" target="_blank">http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/feature/frank...qual-238336.php

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Gizmodo today posted a statistical comparison of over 300 HD DVD and Blu-ray reviews published at High-Def Digest since the start of the high-def format wars last Spring. Their findings? Overall video quality between the two formats is nearly identical, however Blu-ray titles were slightly, but definitely superior in audio playback, while HD DVD titles had far superior standard def features and moderately superior high-def features.
I still think HD-DVD in general has better video quality.

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Rob423
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24. February 2007 @ 06:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm good point that it's hard to compare since most movies are only made for one or the other.

But if you pick 4 top rated blu Rays and 4 top rated HDdvds i was just wondering if there was a noticable difference in quality between the 2 different formats.

thanks for all the replies.

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24. February 2007 @ 07:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
depends on the players & the screens you are watching on.
error5
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24. February 2007 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Keep in mind that I'm format neutral and this list is only from my own viewing experience.

Top 6 HD-DVD's in picture quality - in no particular order:
The Chronicles of Riddick
King Kong
The Departed
Batman Begins
Corpse Bride
The Ant Bully

Top 6 BluRay's in picture quality - in no particular order:
Crank
Open Season
The Ant Bully
Black Hawk Down
The Wild
Corpse Bride

Comparing the top six from either side I would say it would be difficult to declare any format as the winner.

I have seen 3 movies on both formats:

Training Day - HD-DVD is better
The Ant Bully - no difference
Corpse Bride - no difference

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Added: I just finished watching The Prestige on BluRay and I think it should be added to the Top 5 or 6 PQ-wise.

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Rob423
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25. February 2007 @ 11:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm nice post man, good comparison Looks like as of now there's no real quality killer between the 2 formats.

I'm getting the ps3 very soon, i'll give my review on bluray even tho i know the ps3 isn't the best player, my cousin has it matched up with the new sharp aqous magnolia edition and he said the quality is extremely pleasing.

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ngoti8tor
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5. March 2007 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I haven't noticed any real difference between the 2 formats.
What most of the people that work in marketing departments are saying is that one of these formats will be "The One", because of the NAME ONLY. They did a good job with the hi-tech, easy to pronounce, and cool name, which consumers tend to like.
I think most of you will know which one I'm talking about, so I'll leave it up to you.
Rob423
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6. March 2007 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm Guessing HD-DVD cause it's just simple and straight forward. Not to mention cheaper.

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ngoti8tor
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6. March 2007 @ 14:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rob, I'll give you one more guess.
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6. March 2007 @ 15:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have neither seen an HD-DVD nor a Blu-ray movie upclose but looking at the specs Blu-ray can do all the things HDDVD can and more.

Storage:
Blu-ray capacity: 25gb single layer, 50 gb dual layer
HD-DVD capacity:15gb single layer, 25gb dual layer, 45gb triple layer

Blu-ray has more room on discs, which means more space to work with

Data transfer rate:
Blu-ray: 54mbps
HD-DVD: 36mbps

Blu-ray is faster

Audio:
Both have: Dolby Digital
DTS
Dolby Digital Plus
Dolby TrueHD (lossless)
DTS HD (lossless)
DTS Digital
Surround


Overall it seem that Blu-ray could be better but it may come down to actually viewing a movie.
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8. March 2007 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seems like everyone one is still on that Blu-ray vs HD-DVD tip. It really has nothing to do with that. Both formats are excellent with the exception that Blu Ray has more storage capacity. This is the real reason for any differences in the quality your seeing:

Link

Also here is some HD-DVD-Blu-ray-is-hd-disc.html" target="_blank">general info about the Blu-ray and HD-DVD format.

http://easyhdtv.blogspot.com

The best site for HD explanations and updates.
poolpro
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8. March 2007 @ 16:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HD-DVD hands down.Better video and audio.
Rob423
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10. March 2007 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm gonna have to see for myself. Cannot Wait Till That Happens

Rob.

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19. March 2007 @ 00:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by poolpro:
HD-DVD hands down.Better video and audio.
don't know what you are basing that on but look earlier in the thread.

This article is awsome, not sure if it's been posted, it's old but very detailed.

HD-DVD-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/" target="_blank">Article
hyperlink won't work correctly..no idea why

My vote goes to blu ray. Better name, more space, better protective surface(unfortunately pricier). Much bigger theoretical limit on space. More support behind it.

0 Coasters

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poolpro
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Originally posted by poolpro:
HD-DVD hands down.Better video and audio.
don't know what you are basing that on but look earlier in the thread.

This article is awsome, not sure if it's been posted, it's old but very detailed.

HD-DVD-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/" target="_blank">Article
hyperlink won't work correctly..no idea why

My vote goes to blu ray. Better name, more space, better protective surface(unfortunately pricier). Much bigger theoretical limit on space. More support behind it.

Who cares about a name,that means nothing unless the product is good.More space,well HD-DVD has a new disc that is Triple layered which has more space than Blu-ray.Better Protective surface,are yu kidding me? Blu-ray has the worst protective surface since the data is written so close to the surface that any scratch can mess up the disc permanently.Enough said. I'm out.
error5
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19. March 2007 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
poolpro has brought up a couple of points that need to be clarified:

1. As far as I know, the triple layer 51 gigabyte disc spec has not been submitted for approval to the DVD Forum yet and there is concern as to whether current HD-DVD players and drives will be able to read movies released on triple layer discs. There is also speculation that the triple layer format will be used primarily for PC data storage and not for movie distribution. The reason for this is the VC-1 codec which allows for more efficient encoding while maintaining video quality. Example: the 187-minute film King Kong easily fits into a double layer 30 GB disc and is considered demonstration-class when it comes to video quality.

2. It's obvious that poolpro is not aware of the hard-coating technology that all BluRay discs have at this time. Panasonic and Sony have their own proprietary hard coating technology implemented in their replication process. Other proprietary hard-coating methods for BluRay include TDK's Durabis and Verbatim's ScratchGuard. I've had the opportunity to rent several BluRay movies from Netflix. All had some degree of smudging and scratching but they all had no problems playing on my PS3.

Bear in mind that I'm neutral when it comes to both formats but I feel the need to clarify the 2 points that he brought up in his post.

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snowbhord
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19. March 2007 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Who cares about a name,that means nothing unless the product is good.More space,well HD-DVD has a new disc that is Triple layered which has more space than Blu-ray.Better Protective surface,are yu kidding me? Blu-ray has the worst protective surface since the data is written so close to the surface that any scratch can mess up the disc permanently.Enough said. I'm out.
You are freakin retarded poolpro. watch this http://youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

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You are freakin retarded poolpro
And you're freakin suspended for two weeks. I suggest you learn some restraint and manners while you're away.



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poolpro
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19. March 2007 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just trying to shed some light is all.No need for name calling.We all just need to be adults here.
Rob423
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25. March 2007 @ 11:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"And you're freakin suspended for two weeks"

neph that got me crackin up lol

I just hope somebody settles this war sooner or later, i wanna know which one im going to buy lol.


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I aim to please :)



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thanks Neph
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Anytime buddy.



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27. March 2007 @ 06:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by error5:
poolpro has brought up a couple of points that need to be clarified:

1. As far as I know, the triple layer 51 gigabyte disc spec has not been submitted for approval to the DVD Forum yet and there is concern as to whether current HD-DVD players and drives will be able to read movies released on triple layer discs. There is also speculation that the triple layer format will be used primarily for PC data storage and not for movie distribution. The reason for this is the VC-1 codec which allows for more efficient encoding while maintaining video quality. Example: the 187-minute film King Kong easily fits into a double layer 30 GB disc and is considered demonstration-class when it comes to video quality.
This is correct. Here's the link to the "official" Toshiba announcement that they haven't submitted the 51 Gig TL specs to DVD Forum for approval yet (dated March 1st, 2007):

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/03/01/toshiba/index.php

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In the last few days a number of Web sites and blogs have reported the format has been submitted for approval to the DVD Forum and some have said that approval has been received, but Toshiba says nothing of the sort has happened.

?We?re puzzled ourself by where these reports came from,? said Junko Furuta, a spokeswoman for the company in Tokyo. She said Toshiba hasn?t made any further announcements about the disc since CES, and it wasn?t submitted to any steering committees during this week?s DVD Forum meetings in Tokyo.

Your 2nd point about BluRay hard-coating is also correct. From personal experience with borrowed discs, even PS3 games seem to stand up pretty well to scratching and smudging. Plus TDK has announced their Durabis coated BD media:

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/9100.cfm


"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
 
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