|
My method and then some questions. :)
|
|
|
MavLy21
Newbie
|
1. March 2007 @ 16:02 |
Link to this message
|
So this started out as a way to find the best mehtod, but I have read a couple of threads and see there really isn't a best method that everyone agrees on. So now this thread has been changed to a questions thread.
So currently I use these steps to back up DVDs.
1) DVD Decrypter w/ AnyDVD in the background
(To rip to my hard drive)
2) VobBlanker
(To blank out Warnings and stuff)
3) DVD Shrink (That uses Nero)
(To burn to Blank DVD Media)
Yes, I usually burn to dual layer discs. Sometimes I burn to single layer discs when the DVD is small enough.
Is this a solid method? I see some people use Ripit4me (which I read uses DVD Decrypter and Shrink). Is that better? easier? the same? And what does RipIt4Me do with Shrink? Does it use Shrink to compress, burn, or something else?
I also see people using ImgBurn as their final step. A quick question that just came to my mind about DVD Shrink. Is Shrink used usually to compress the DVD onto a single layer disc? Meaning....if I were to backup onto a dual layer disc, then I shouldn't use Shrink? I ask this because....maybe I need to replace DVD Shrink with ImgBurn.
I'd like to know if there is a step I'm missing or a step I don't need.
Next. I see this being mentioned...DVD-RB Pro and CCE........
I'm trying to search for the thread I saw them in, but the forums isn't loading for me. I wanted to see what I can find out about them. Basically if anyone can help....what do those 2 things do? Do they replace anything in my steps? Do they add something that I need to include in my steps?
Thanks in advance for the input I get. Let's see if the forums are workable enough for me to submit since I can't view the forums. Lol.
- Chris
|
|
Advertisement
|
 |
|
|
|
MavLy21
Newbie
|
1. March 2007 @ 16:16 |
Link to this message
|
Alright. SO i ran across a thread explaining DVD-RB. It is something that compresses the movie to fit on a single layered media. :)
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
1. March 2007 @ 16:50 |
Link to this message
|
Your method is half ok. You can actually set AnyDVD to remove trailers and adverts. And just use ImgBurn to build and write an ISO file to DL media. This is what I use.
Ripping with Decrypter first and running files thru voblanker probably produces cleaner files and will take out exactly what you want. So keep doing that. Then open the VIDEO_TS file in ImgBurn and build the ISO file and burn it with ImgBurn. It will give some options for the layer break. Select the one that is rated the best.
|
|
maxxjulie
Member
|
1. March 2007 @ 20:28 |
Link to this message
|
use ripit4me. the newest version has fixVTS integrated into it and it too can remove trailers and warning automatically. It's all done in one step as well if you use the 1 click option. seems easier to me than having to use VobBlanker after ripping. that's an extra step. ripit4me is better than AnyDVD. it handled saw 3 the day it came out while AnyDVD needed an update which came like a week later. i don't understand why people can't just find the simplest method that works and do that.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. March 2007 @ 20:30
|
|
aabbccdd
Suspended permanently
|
1. March 2007 @ 20:53 |
Link to this message
|
maxxjulie, AnyDVD could do SAWIII fine the first day the movie was released if you did the movie only it took a few days for the update to do the complete movie.
Quote:
Is this a solid method? I see some people use Ripit4me (which I read uses DVD Decrypter and Shrink). Is that better? easier? the same? And what does RipIt4Me do with Shrink? Does it use Shrink to compress, burn, or something else?
MavLy21
your method is ok, when using DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD set it up this way
To use DVD Decrypter in conjunction with AnyDVD as stated per Olli ->OF SLYSOFT AND CloneDVD
Proceed to the DVD Decrypter Opening Page - Tools - Settings
I/O Tab - Click on "Elby CDIO-Elaborate Bytes"
General Tab - un-check "Check For Structure Protection"
an actually if your using mostly DL your best bet is to use CloneDVD 2 with AnyDVD . less steps easier to use and it would be much faster
but if you want to go with freeware "RipIt4Me" is the way to go.(better than the method your using now) IMO FixVTS gives you a cleaner file than Vob Blanker. heres some guides for RitIt4Me
http://www.ripit4me.org/guide.html
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/360110
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. March 2007 @ 20:57
|
|
PacMan777
AfterDawn Addict
|
1. March 2007 @ 23:34 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by MavLy21:
...
1) DVD Decrypter w/ AnyDVD in the background
(To rip to my hard drive)
It works most of the time. However with the new copy protections, this method isn't always successful. FixVTS can be used for compliance processing, but not even that is always successful. This is where RipIt4Me does a better job.
2) VobBlanker
(To blank out Warnings and stuff)
3) DVD Shrink (That uses Nero)
(To burn to Blank DVD Media)
If burning DL all you need is ImgBurn. Shrink is only needed when transcoding to DVD5. Many people say Nero is better for single layer than DL burning.
...
Is this a solid method? I see some people use Ripit4me (which I read uses DVD Decrypter and Shrink). Is that better? easier? the same? And what does RipIt4Me do with Shrink? Does it use Shrink to compress, burn, or something else?
RipIt4Me does the rip and processes to remove the copy protection and deliver compliant files. Shrink with RipIt4Me does only one thing. The quick analysis is a test for compliance. It it analyzes, the odds are you have good files. After that you can use Shrink as you normally would, RipIt4Me has done its job. The files are on the hard drive. They're open in Shrink which makes Shrink handy for doing the transcoding, but it can be closed and the files used in any other program.
I also see people using ImgBurn as their final step. A quick question that just came to my mind about DVD Shrink. Is Shrink used usually to compress the DVD onto a single layer disc? Meaning....if I were to backup onto a dual layer disc, then I shouldn't use Shrink? I ask this because....maybe I need to replace DVD Shrink with ImgBurn.
The question has been answered, ImgBurn is a burner software. Shink is a transcoder. Shrink has to have a burner. Depending on the output size and target size, the burner may not need Shrink.
I'd like to know if there is a step I'm missing or a step I don't need.
DVD backup 101 is suggested. You appear not to know the software and how it all works together for a backup.
Next. I see this being mentioned...DVD-RB Pro and CCE........
I'm trying to search for the thread I saw them in, but the forums isn't loading for me. I wanted to see what I can find out about them. Basically if anyone can help....what do those 2 things do?
Rebuilder is a macro that uses supported encoders, i.e. Cinema Craft Encoder (CCE) to encode movies to fit DVD5 and for mobile formats (Pro version). The simple fact is that encoders make a better copy than transcoders when it comes to more content and higher compression. This is like Shrink compressing the movie, only RB with CCE does a better job.
Do they replace anything in my steps? Do they add something that I need to include in my steps?
The advantage is better quality, but it takes longer.
...
- Chris
|
Senior Member
|
2. March 2007 @ 02:02 |
Link to this message
|
@ aabbccdd. AnyDVD did handle saw3 the same day it came out but, in main movie only mode. ripit4me did the whole movie from the first day without having to be updated. Ripit4me is a much slower way, specially when one runs the files thru fixvts after ripping them. but it is a much safer method, because it produces the cleanest files possible.
Nero Recode2 or Shrink using deep analysis and AEC/ fabdecrypter or anydvd running in the background/ IMGBurn to burn/main movie only mode= perfect.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 2. March 2007 @ 02:03
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 02:59 |
Link to this message
|
@maxxjulie
aabbccdd is absolutely correct. AnyDVD did Saw3 , movie only, the night it came out! It's still the easiest method when used with CloneDVD, Nero Recode or Shrink when it works with the last two options. It has its warts lately but once you start the burn process, after having set everything up properly, and have two burners, all that is required is if you please, watch the analysis, encode and and burn, because the next step is removing the finished product! Truly one click start to finish. With ripit4me, great program, you still have to tell Shrink what to do and start the process again.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 05:46 |
Link to this message
|
|
Hi MavLy21,
As you can see from all of the replies to your questions there are a bunch of different ways to backup your DVD movies. Is one better than the other? IMO there is not one method that will work better than anything else as everyones likes, dislikes, PC's, and opinions will always be different. So I would say if you are producing good backups and are comfortable with the way you are doing this process then stick to that. If you are adventures and just like to try different methods (like me) :-) then give them all a shot and determine which one is best for you. Now I use a bunch of different ways to backup my movies and to be honest they all work pretty well, but if I where going to stick to one method for backing up a dual layer disc as this looks like what you are doing. then I would use the following method.
1) Rip Full Movie with DVDFab Decrypter to your HD
2) Run Files threw FixVTS
3) Burn to blank media with ImageBurn
Again though if you are happy with your final product then stick with it my favorite quote "If it aint broke then dont fix it"
Cheers
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm |
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 05:54 |
Link to this message
|
@bbmayo
Great advice. Since ripit4me has now upgraded, does it use fixVTS or VOB? I still see FixVTS in the ripit4me folder. I assume I can open it alone after say a DVD Fab rip as you suggested and run those files thru it.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 07:23 |
Link to this message
|
garmoon,
The new version of RipIt4Me does not use FixVTS, but it uses its own adaptation of something simular.
I have been using FixVTS for a long time on all of my movies long before RipIt4Me came around. You can easily run any of your movies through FixVTS and I would always do this just to be safe.
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm
|
|
aabbccdd
Suspended permanently
|
2. March 2007 @ 08:47 |
Link to this message
|
Quote:
The new version of RipIt4Me does not use FixVTS, but it uses its own adaptation of something simular.
really thats news to me . why has it changed
|
|
PacMan777
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 09:29 |
Link to this message
|
Too many newbs used the zip files to install and couldn't find the path to FixVTS. The FixVTS code is incorporated into the RI4M program now. Those with an older version updating may still have the FixVTS file in the RipIt4Me folder, but it doesn't open in version 1.7.0.0. Those installing the new version fresh won't see FixVTS. You will notice in preferences there are no FixVTS options, they're replaced with VOB options (not VobBlanker options), which do the same (down to processing in place like FixVTS did). What's been done is in the history.
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 09:30 |
Link to this message
|
aabbccdd,
Check out this thread http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/474454 or you could go to the RipIt4Me website
Quote:
Version 1.7.0.0 (28 February 2007)
First version that integrates our adaptation of FixVTS. There is no need to have FixVTS installed anymore. Several options concerning FixVTS have been renamed/removed, including the FixVTS log, which is now included (and much simplified) into the RipIt4Me log.
So after reading that I may have mis-spoken it could mean they just intergrate FixVTS into there download and install now? The more I read at there site I believe RipIt4Me still does use FixVTS it just incorporates and has coded it differently than before. There is no need however to have FixVTS installed with the new version 1.7.0.0 because it is hard coded into the program itself now. I hope that better explains it and i am sorry about my last post as I wasent clear on what was meant when I said it doesn't use FixVTS because it does still use it's own version of FixVTS.
Cheers
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm
|
|
PacMan777
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 09:33 |
Link to this message
|
|
I was about 60 seconds up on you that time. LOL
|
|
aabbccdd
Suspended permanently
|
2. March 2007 @ 09:48 |
Link to this message
|
|
ok cool i thought that was incorrect but i haven't used the program in a few weeks.
anyway i need to do a clean reinstall of the program,thanks bbmayo
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 09:52 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by PacMan777:
I was about 60 seconds up on you that time. LOL
Yeah Yeah ;-) LOL
My Guides--------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
Newbies------------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
Software ------->http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/software.htm
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 10:31 |
Link to this message
|
|
I did several clean installs, thinking the FixVTS file was omitted somehow. Then looked in ripit4me folder and it was there. Did a quick rip and watched it do it's thing. Basically works the same without mentioning FixVTS. I was also able to still open FixVTS on its own should I need it.
|
|
PacMan777
AfterDawn Addict
|
2. March 2007 @ 21:57 |
Link to this message
|
|
Now you merely have FixVTS stored in the RipIt4Me folder. It only works when you activate it to process files manually. The internal FixVTS code in the RipIt4Me program is what now does the processing when RI4M is doing the job. No real need to store it elsewhere as long as you remember where you have it. I put FixVTS back in a FixVTS folder in Program Files. That's where I had it before.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
3. March 2007 @ 05:07 |
Link to this message
|
|
This is all becoming too much maintenence. LOL
|
