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Rip/Burning speeds 3-4X slower with extra drive
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Steve7481
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19. March 2007 @ 13:52 |
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To start with I use DVDShrink + Nero to backup DVDs. Been using this combo problem free for a couple years now.
So my problems starts with the fact that last week I added an additional DVD-Rom to my PC so I could put the original DVD in it and a blank in the burner and let it rip/burn all in one shot. I usued to just have my burner and would rip to the HD and later on burn the disc. That process used to take me no more than 20 minutes total.
Now with this new drive it takes well over an hour with one DVD taking close to an hour and a half. I went to the device manager and turned DMA on for all drives. I wasn't sure which was which [ie primary, secondary, etc] so I did it for all. Doesn't seem to be helping.
Any other suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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19. March 2007 @ 16:03 |
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What are the transfer modes?
ultra dma mode 4?
PIO mode?
Ultra dma mode 2?
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To start with I use DVDShrink + Nero to backup DVDs. Been using this combo problem free for a couple years now.
R u using AnyDVD with these?
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19. March 2007 @ 16:20 |
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Burning speed should be no lower than 4x, no faster than 8x, it's a safer burn to let it use a temp. folder to put it on you hard drive and let it burn from there burning on the fly is faster but more risky if you use Nero just use Nero Recode its dose the same thing, its put it on a SL disc, how do get past the new encryptions ? I have burnt disc at 16x and they worked, but I was surprised they worked
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19. March 2007 @ 17:54 |
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You said you went into device manager and "turned on" DMA for primary and secondary controllers. You might want to uninstall the primary and secondary controllers, turn off and reboot computer, and let Windows reinstall controllers. That is the better way to reinstall DMA....
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Steve7481
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20. March 2007 @ 06:46 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. March 2007 @ 07:01
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20. March 2007 @ 06:57 |
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First let me get your pictures showin in here correctly for all to see.
The second Primary:
The Secondary IDE Channel:
How is your drive hooked up? Cable, Slave, Master, IDE? Try as suggested earlier and go ahead and remove all of your controllers and then re-start your PC.
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Steve7481
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20. March 2007 @ 07:02 |
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Sorry I wasn't sure of the rules if I could post the pictures and such like that. I have the BURNER set as the MASTER and the DVD-ROM set as SLAVE.
Should I do the drivers thing with both PRIMARY channels and also the SECONDARY? Is going to cause any problems with reinstalling drivers?
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20. March 2007 @ 07:17 |
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It won't cause any problems just delete them all and re-start your system.
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Steve7481
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21. March 2007 @ 07:51 |
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No improvements. Still took 1hr and 19min to rip/burn. Any other suggestions?
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21. March 2007 @ 08:27 |
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What size CPU do you have 500 MGz
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Steve7481
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21. March 2007 @ 08:34 |
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2.8GHz
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21. March 2007 @ 12:36 |
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thats enough power, is that burn time only or decrypte shrink encode and burn time total
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Steve7481
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21. March 2007 @ 14:12 |
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It's the rip/encode time. Seems like the burning speed is OK. I really didn't notice. But I did notice that before the burn it was over a hour total before it started burning.
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22. March 2007 @ 11:53 |
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I just did Casino Royle with AnyDVD and Nero Recode in 62 min. that was everthing just that is just the main movie only. I have more horsepower than you
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22. March 2007 @ 11:54 |
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sorry I hit reply to fast
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22. March 2007 @ 11:58 |
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62 Min. is what I burnt one in
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Steve7481
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22. March 2007 @ 13:44 |
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Yeah but the thing is without the other drive I was encoding/ripping/burning in under 20 minutes. Why all of a sudden is it taking an hour longer with another drive. That's the question. It's not a matter of whether I have the power, I know I do, it's just the settings aren't right and I can't seem to get 'em right.
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22. March 2007 @ 16:04 |
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Yeah but the thing is without the other drive I was encoding/ripping/burning in under 20 minutes.
thats really fast for all three
What speed do u burn at?
What quality setttings do u have selected in shrink?
Deep analysis or AEC?
it also depends on a full disk or main movie only backup?
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Steve7481
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23. March 2007 @ 02:18 |
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I don't know the specifics with DVD Shrink. I just encode the movie and remove any foreign audio and that's it. I believe I had Nero burning at 4x but I could be mistaken. It's been running smoothly for months up until I installed a new drive.
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23. March 2007 @ 04:21 |
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Steve7481,
It may be easier to figure out where your problems are if you do this and post the results.
1) Rip the movie to your hard drive w/ DVDFab Decrypter Post the time it takes
2) Encode movie from the ripped files using Shrink, post the time that takes (I have a feeling this is where it will be slower)
3) Burn your movie with your Nero and post your time it takes for that
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Steve7481
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23. March 2007 @ 11:13 |
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I don't understand why you say to RIP the DVD using another program. When I use DVD Shrink and encode it automatically backs up the file in a folder I choose.
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23. March 2007 @ 12:40 |
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Sorry no way you did this under 20 min.
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Steve7481
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23. March 2007 @ 15:54 |
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Trust me dude I've been doing it for months. I wouldn't be making a thread complaining about a hour+ time if I hadn't done it in significantly less time.
In DVDShrink during the encoding process, I don't know the specific name, but it's something to do with kb/s or some sort. Anywho before I tried 2 drives I was steady in 6-7K range and now it's less than 1.5K. I'll disable the new drive and try it again and see. I'll post screens and show you that it was done in 20 minutes, give or take 5 minutes.
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23. March 2007 @ 17:45 |
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have u defraged u PC lately?
Have u cleaned all the dust out lately?
have u re-installed shrink?
What about using Ccleaner to check the registry and clean some old stuff out?
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23. March 2007 @ 18:53 |
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My 2 cents...
This is a multi-step process any way you do it... So you can see why it was requested by bbMayo that times from individual steps be noted and posted.
How else can we separate the rip from the burn and know what is slowing down
Ripping is the process of reading and removing encryption from the original, what Shrink/Region Free are doing. Of course burning is the writing of those video files to a blank.
You said you used Nero, please post a Nero log from this.
Check if you have Shrink set in Low Priority mode or if any of the quality enhancements are enabled. then that will make it take longer. Especially Deep Analysis. 300Bowler mentioned this before, I just want to re-mention it. Sometimes it's the simple things... If not, then a Nero log would really help.
I'm interested in your new drive and the kb/s you are getting with it. What brand is it?
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