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Xbox 360 Elite HDMI output details revealed
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article published on 2 April, 2007
it has been revealed that the Xbox 360 Elite will not output multi-channel PCM audio over HDMI which is no different than what occurs in Core and Premium systems.
The Elite will support the HDMI 1.2 specification. When connected to an HDTV set with HDMI input, the Xbox 360 will automatically select the appropriate video output resolution up to 1080p. Users will not be able to manually ... [ read the full article ]
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2. April 2007 @ 10:23 |
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Nevertheless, the Xbox 360 Elite can output 2-channel PCM audio over HDMI.
No thanks M$.
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26r0cK
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2. April 2007 @ 11:17 |
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wow...this just made the elite not elite at all. high price on a piece of junk.
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2. April 2007 @ 14:54 |
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Originally posted by 26r0cK:
wow...this just made the elite not elite at all. high price on a piece of junk.
Agreed.
IMO worst decision by Microsoft (regarding X360 & HD DVD) so far.
And the first time I have the feeling meaby Sony and PS3 isn't so bad.
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2. April 2007 @ 15:51 |
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If you lacked component/VGA on your TV, you are in business with Xbox 360 Elite.
if your tv did not have component/VGA, what are the chances its going to have HDMI input??
Anyway, I agree with everyone else. I was hoping to buy one of these to replace my broken 360 that went out of warranty. But the only thing i really wanted was the HDMI output. then they just cripple the one thing they got going with this version? That was just enough for me to change my mind. That PS3 is looking better and better...
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2. April 2007 @ 16:15 |
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[quote]If you lacked component/VGA on your TV, you are in business with Xbox 360 Elite.
if your tv did not have component/VGA, what are the chances its going to have HDMI input??
Anyway, I agree with everyone else. I was hoping to buy one of these to replace my broken 360 that went out of warranty. But the only thing i really wanted was the HDMI output. then they just cripple the one thing they got going with this version? That was just enough for me to change my mind. That PS3 is looking better and better...[/quote]True but I will get a sucky white updated 360 over a snobbish more costly console *L*
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2. April 2007 @ 16:19 |
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I can't see why everyone is all up in arms. Just look at it this way. Your getting a larger Harddrive & HDMI for $80 if your planning to buy a new system.
For people who already have a 360's and are looking to buy the larger Harddrive, see if your local gaming store will take your old console back for a trade-in,make sure you get top dollar for it. GameCrazy in my town will buy your 360 for $230, now that leaves you with a $279 balance if your gonna trade. Since you want tle larger harddrive, you would had have to dish out a 179 for 120gigs if you kept your old console.. I hope you all are folling me with this so far. You would get a Elite for $70.00.
And that how I see it. New owners will makeout good. There getting HDMI (That I realy don't care about) and a larger harddrive for $79.00.
Fuzzy Math I know.
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2. April 2007 @ 16:28 |
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Originally posted by dapmedia:
I can't see why everyone is all up in arms. Just look at it this way. Your getting a larger Harddrive & HDMI for $80 if your planning to buy a new system.
For people who already have a 360's and are looking to buy the larger Harddrive, see if your local gaming store will take your old console back for a trade-in,make sure you get top dollar for it. GameCrazy in my town will buy your 360 for $230, now that leaves you with a $279 balance if your gonna trade. Since you want tle larger harddrive, you would had have to dish out a 179 for 120gigs if you kept your old console.. I hope you all are folling me with this so far. You would get a Elite for $70.00.
And that how I see it. New owners will makeout good. There getting HDMI (That I realy don't care about) and a larger harddrive for $79.00.
Fuzzy Math I know.
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The problem is MS has been putting off this fix for awhile and we get this and its more like a bandaid than a real "fix"
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2. April 2007 @ 20:10 |
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Originally posted by dapmedia:
I can't see why everyone is all up in arms. Just look at it this way. Your getting a larger Harddrive & HDMI for $80 if your planning to buy a new system.
For people who already have a 360's and are looking to buy the larger Harddrive, see if your local gaming store will take your old console back for a trade-in,make sure you get top dollar for it. GameCrazy in my town will buy your 360 for $230, now that leaves you with a $279 balance if your gonna trade. Since you want tle larger harddrive, you would had have to dish out a 179 for 120gigs if you kept your old console.. I hope you all are folling me with this so far. You would get a Elite for $70.00.
And that how I see it. New owners will makeout good. There getting HDMI (That I realy don't care about) and a larger harddrive for $79.00.
Fuzzy Math I know.
Im following here, but now..instead of the elite for an extra 70-80$ add in another 20$ and u get a base PS3 with a blu ray player ..20$ for a blu ray player that gives tru HD sounds sweet to me.
If only MS would just cough out the HD DVD in wit the elite at this price then the elite would seem far more attractive.
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2. April 2007 @ 20:17 |
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Originally posted by dapmedia:
I can't see why everyone is all up in arms. Just look at it this way. Your getting a larger Harddrive & HDMI for $80 if your planning to buy a new system.
For people who already have a 360's and are looking to buy the larger Harddrive, see if your local gaming store will take your old console back for a trade-in,make sure you get top dollar for it. GameCrazy in my town will buy your 360 for $230, now that leaves you with a $279 balance if your gonna trade. Since you want tle larger harddrive, you would had have to dish out a 179 for 120gigs if you kept your old console.. I hope you all are folling me with this so far. You would get a Elite for $70.00.
And that how I see it. New owners will makeout good. There getting HDMI (That I realy don't care about) and a larger harddrive for $79.00.
Fuzzy Math I know.
Im following here, but now..instead of the elite for an extra 70-80$ add in another 20$ and u get a base PS3 with a blu ray player ..20$ for a blu ray player that gives tru HD sounds sweet to me.
If only MS would just cough out the HD DVD in wit the elite at this price then the elite would seem far more attractive.
meh with no wifi or FLashcard reader whats the point?
Would rather wait till the new premiums come out and tag it for 399 and use the extra money for games and stuff the PS3 just aint ripe yet.
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2. April 2007 @ 20:18 |
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Originally posted by dapmedia:
I can't see why everyone is all up in arms. Just look at it this way. Your getting a larger Harddrive & HDMI for $80 if your planning to buy a new system.
For people who already have a 360's and are looking to buy the larger Harddrive, see if your local gaming store will take your old console back for a trade-in,make sure you get top dollar for it. GameCrazy in my town will buy your 360 for $230, now that leaves you with a $279 balance if your gonna trade. Since you want tle larger harddrive, you would had have to dish out a 179 for 120gigs if you kept your old console.. I hope you all are folling me with this so far. You would get a Elite for $70.00.
And that how I see it. New owners will makeout good. There getting HDMI (That I realy don't care about) and a larger harddrive for $79.00.
Fuzzy Math I know.
Im following here, but now..instead of the elite for an extra 70-80$ add in another 20$ and u get a base PS3 with a blu ray player ..20$ for a blu ray player that gives tru HD sounds sweet to me.
If only MS would just cough out the HD DVD in wit the elite at this price then the elite would seem far more attractive.
meh with no wifi or FLashcard reader whats the point?
Would rather wait till the new premiums come out and tag it for 399 and use the extra money for games and stuff the PS3 just aint ripe yet.
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3. April 2007 @ 06:24 |
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This article just justified all of my other posts about the 360. M$ does it again enough said and I agree with most of the post so I won't stress the point any further. But to correct the guy that said you are only paying $80 for the HDMI and bigger HD, to be honest your wrong your paying $480+ for those. Then on top your paying $960 if you already bought the Premium version and didn't not trade it and if your did trade it you pay more and lost more depending on what your trade is worth.
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Originally posted by spydah:
This article just justified all of my other posts about the 360. M$ does it again enough said and I agree with most of the post so I won't stress the point any further. But to correct the guy that said you are only paying $80 for the HDMI and bigger HD, to be honest your wrong your paying $480+ for those. Then on top your paying $960 if you already bought the Premium version and didn't not trade it and if your did trade it you pay more and lost more depending on what your trade is worth.
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true MS is making a killing at the consumers exspence but this is why you never early adopt LOL
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3. April 2007 @ 17:10 |
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I can't see why M$ would make something like this NOW. Everybody who wanted an Xbox by now already has one. This also makes it unfair to those who baought a 360 in the past and may have wanted 120GB or maybe just for the colour. If I had a say in this, I would have lost the premium package altogether in the first place, and release this instead. Then yor choice would be either a plain white system with 20GB, or a black accessorized system for a higher cost and 120GB.
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Originally posted by vinny13:
I can't see why M$ would make something like this NOW. Everybody who wanted an Xbox by now already has one. This also makes it unfair to those who baought a 360 in the past and may have wanted 120GB or maybe just for the colour. If I had a say in this, I would have lost the premium package altogether in the first place, and release this instead. Then yor choice would be either a plain white system with 20GB, or a black accessorized system for a higher cost and 120GB.
I see a few reasons for it,
1.MS sees people willing to throw moeny away(between the PS3 and rebuying 360s it seems so)
2.People have been screaming for MS to bring out a larger HDD
3.People have been screaming for MS to fix the 360
4.HDMI is a worth while addition..well real HDMI
All in all its a limited release to gain money from the dumb and fanboys, how ever if they put the 65NM CPU in it I would be willing to bend over >>
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4. April 2007 @ 01:43 |
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For Audiophiles and HDMI semi-purest, The ONKYO TX-SR804 will take the componenet leads of the 360 and upconvert it to HDMI, give you 6.1 Surround sound, plus upconvert your vcr, dvd, ps2,and original xbox to HDMI All in stereo at least and only 1 cable to your tv.(and a slight dent in your checkbook) but if you are going the surround sound way this is 1 excellent combination. (I like it anyways).
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4. April 2007 @ 08:45 |
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Originally posted by alphabit:
For Audiophiles and HDMI semi-purest, The ONKYO TX-SR804 will take the componenet leads of the 360 and upconvert it to HDMI, give you 6.1 Surround sound, plus upconvert your vcr, dvd, ps2,and original xbox to HDMI All in stereo at least and only 1 cable to your tv.(and a slight dent in your checkbook) but if you are going the surround sound way this is 1 excellent combination. (I like it anyways).
at 600$ you could sadly get a PS3 and do it right from the start 0-o
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4. April 2007 @ 10:11 |
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Actually it has HDMI inputs too. I already have the PS3 hooked up to it. But the the 360 has alot more better games to chose from.IMHO
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4. April 2007 @ 10:26 |
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Originally posted by alphabit:
Actually it has HDMI inputs too. I already have the PS3 hooked up to it. But the the 360 has alot more better games to chose from.IMHO
can it convert analog or composite to HDMI?
whats its input capacity?
if it can handle most current types and ups it to full HDMI the it would be worth while for any Hdef fan.
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5. April 2007 @ 00:29 |
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Actually I was just letting readers know the way I hooked up my 360 to HDMI input. The people at ONKYO and thier website should be able to give you the answers you desire..check it out, it is an awesome a/v surround unit.
Composite and componet, yes. Analog I am not sure.
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well tis helpful to know what your talking abotu ...sometimes :P
seems a full featured high def Video/Audio input/output device with AM/FM receiver,at the price it should have TV/HDTV *L*
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http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR804&p=s&class=Receiver
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Video Section
Input Sensitivity/Output Level and Impedance
Component and S-Video Y 1 Vp-p/75 ohms
Component PB/CB, PR/CR 0.7 Vp-p/75 ohms
S-Video C 0.28 Vp-p/75 ohms
Composite 1 Vp-p/75 ohms
Component Video Frequency Response 5 Hz-50 MHz
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looking at the rear pic its a freaking monster than can take care of all your hdef needs.
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well tis helpful to know what your talking abotu ...sometimes :P
seems a full featured high def Video/Audio input/output device with AM/FM receiver,at the price it should have TV/HDTV *L*
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http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-SR804&p=s&class=Receiver
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Video Section
Input Sensitivity/Output Level and Impedance
Component and S-Video Y 1 Vp-p/75 ohms
Component PB/CB, PR/CR 0.7 Vp-p/75 ohms
S-Video C 0.28 Vp-p/75 ohms
Composite 1 Vp-p/75 ohms
Component Video Frequency Response 5 Hz-50 MHz
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looking at the rear pic its a freaking monster than can take care of all your hdef needs.
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5. April 2007 @ 08:06 |
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wow, one thing i have to hand to the ps3 is that the ps3 does not have these difficulties. the more i read about this 360 system the more i am steered towards a ps3 in the future. sooner or later the ps3 will have a comprable library and when the price drops i think i am going to go with them this round. in the future my goal is single HDMI connections through a single reciever to a tv. thus the HDMI must support dd5.1, DTS and such via that cable. this would unfortunately exclude xbox from what i am reading. by the way why do i have to buy a 200.00 adapter to play HD-DVD on a 360 while the ps3 is br ready out of the box?
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5. April 2007 @ 10:06 |
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Originally posted by cappyx:
wow, one thing i have to hand to the ps3 is that the ps3 does not have these difficulties. the more i read about this 360 system the more i am steered towards a ps3 in the future. sooner or later the ps3 will have a comprable library and when the price drops i think i am going to go with them this round. in the future my goal is single HDMI connections through a single reciever to a tv. thus the HDMI must support dd5.1, DTS and such via that cable. this would unfortunately exclude xbox from what i am reading. by the way why do i have to buy a 200.00 adapter to play HD-DVD on a 360 while the ps3 is br ready out of the box?
the 360 is a mess but offers cheap Hdef,solid online and a solid list of games.
the PS3 is only better if you have money and don't mind game droughts.
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6. April 2007 @ 10:11 |
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Kind of a bummer. But I guess I can still run audio through the optical cable and get DTS/Surround. Please tell me the Elite will be able to output sound through Optical and Video through HDMI?
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6. April 2007 @ 11:03 |
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Originally posted by ZzeusS:
Kind of a bummer. But I guess I can still run audio through the optical cable and get DTS/Surround. Please tell me the Elite will be able to output sound through Optical and Video through HDMI?
if it did that it would not be crippled,the audio outputs have not changed they just tacted HDMI onto the video with basic 2 ch audio piped thew HDMI they could have saved them selfs allot of time and effort by just making a conversion cable and forcing the display mode....
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