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dejavu!
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PacMan777
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7. May 2007 @ 15:12 |
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msblack
I wouldn't worry about it too much. You got your RI4M to work. When the copy protection gets too heavy then worry about moving on to DVDFab HD Decryptor or another. You can get your backup and practice with the others until you feel you have it right. Eventually though, as mentioned, you'll probably need to change to be able to do backups due to changing copy protections.
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7. May 2007 @ 18:33 |
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as 300bowler said, it is very simple. You are just ripping it to your HDD. After that you can use the other programs to remove, shrink, etc. Sometimes even though the movie is ripped it may still have some problem files, so use DVDFree, or IFOEdit to clean it up. You only have to do that if Shrink or VobBlanker has a problem opening it.
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PacMan777
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7. May 2007 @ 20:16 |
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IFOEdit states in the description it doesn't work properly with XP. Win2K is the OS of preference. FixVTS does much the same as IFOEdit for compliance processing. When the decryption program alone doesn't produce a compliant set of files, I process with FixVTS. Nice thing about the old RI4M, it does the processing or tells the user to switch to Shrink.
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8. May 2007 @ 12:34 |
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Ripped fine for me until I watched it, it has behind the scenes interlaced with the movie so 5 mins of movie with audio then 5 mins of behind the scenes with main movie audio tried it twice with ripitforme and dvdfab. Anybody else find this?
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Car.Mike
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8. May 2007 @ 12:54 |
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You want Title 1 as it is the theatrical release and Title 2 is the movie with commentary and the behind the scenes action
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PacMan777
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8. May 2007 @ 12:59 |
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I do it the easy way. I encode it all with RB and with the PUOs gone I can navigate wherever I like with the remote. Just like the original DVD, only better. It doesn't force you to watch trailers if you don't want to.
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8. May 2007 @ 19:01 |
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the movie is not where it belongs. In reauthor, I found little bits and pieces of the film. I wonder if I could put them in in the slot where one selects what one wants to actually burn. If one knows the order, theoretically the film could be assembled. Does anyone have a quarrel with that? Has anyone tried putting the puzzle together, then burning it into a coherent movie? Or are there other troubling issues?
I don't find any of the advice on this thread persuasive.
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8. May 2007 @ 19:14 |
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In Shrink Re author mode, Deja Vu appears to have coherent movie material running from title 8 or title 9, a shorter version of title 8,
to title 17. It does not seem enough seconds to add up to a movie. So
where is the movie hidden. And what is a proper way to coax it out of
this mess. Who has really gotten this movie using what technique?
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PacMan777
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8. May 2007 @ 19:54 |
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We've pointed out how to do Deja Vu using different ripping software and which titles to select in Shrink Re-author. Car.Mike just pointed out which titles are which:
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You want Title 1 as it is the theatrical release and Title 2 is the movie with commentary and the behind the scenes action.
The other titles are extras, trailers, or menu material. You can use the review function in Shrink to see what each title contains. Click on the title to highlight and use the controls in the lower left corner of Shrink window. Double click screen for full screen, double click again to return to small size. Drag across the titles you want to keep. You also have the Start/End Frames function for segments. Just remember, no working menus from Re-author.
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silver47
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10. May 2007 @ 18:19 |
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Here's what I did (from memory)--I tried a bunch of different things until I think this works. Keep in mind that all I wanted was a back up of the movie.
At first I tried DVD Shrink, but it choked. So did DVDFab Decrypter and DVD Decrypter. So....
What I did was use RipIt4Me to rip the whole disk (1-click mode) to your hard drive. I accepted the defaults that RipIt4Me comes with. It threw errors. Ignore them. Then, clean up VOB 9 (where the movie is) with FixVTS. Then open the VTS-corrected ripped files on your hard drive with DVDShrink. Use re-author mode to burn a new disk.
I notice that the main movie usually consists of files that are 1,048,574 bytes followed by one file that is smaller.
However, after RipIt4Me was done, there were 5 VOB files of varying length. I suspect there is garbage in there and FixVTS fixes it so that the garbage is removed.
I haven't watched the backed up copy yet, so I hope it worked!
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ccdoster
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10. May 2007 @ 18:50 |
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Silver 47, please let us know if it worked. DVDFab is also failing for me. I've tried some older back-up programs I have (DVD Xcopy Plat)but they fail at 47% (looks to be the same place for DVDFab. Oh, and when I say fail I mean errors during decryption phase.
Christie
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PacMan777
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10. May 2007 @ 21:52 |
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Originally posted by silver47:
Here's what I did (from memory)--I tried a bunch of different things until I think this works. Keep in mind that all I wanted was a back up of the movie.
At first I tried DVD Shrink, but it choked. So did DVDFab Decrypter and DVD Decrypter. So....
What I did was use RipIt4Me to rip the whole disk (1-click mode) to your hard drive. I accepted the defaults that RipIt4Me comes with. It threw errors. Ignore them. Then, clean up VOB 9 (where the movie is) with FixVTS. Then open the VTS-corrected ripped files on your hard drive with DVDShrink. Use re-author mode to burn a new disk.
I notice that the main movie usually consists of files that are 1,048,574 bytes followed by one file that is smaller.
However, after RipIt4Me was done, there were 5 VOB files of varying length. I suspect there is garbage in there and FixVTS fixes it so that the garbage is removed.
I haven't watched the backed up copy yet, so I hope it worked!
If all you wanted was movie or movie with menu, those are rip selections in RI4M. You didn't have to use the Full DVD. Just stay away from the ISO rip if the files need compliance processing or if you don't know. Rip movie or movie with menu and there's no need to mess with the VOBs. You're making more work for yourself by using the ripper software incorrectly.
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slamcyl
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11. May 2007 @ 11:21 |
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well this is what i did and its not working for me
hi guys, well im having this problem with the deja vu movie....
this is what i did :
i copied the whole movie into my hdd by using DVD Decrypter set to file mode while using any dvd 6.1.3.6 in the background i already modified the DVD Decrypter settings so it can work with any dvd ( unchecking check for structure protection, set the interface as elbycdio and the css cracking method set to none.)
ok now my movie was succesfully copied then i tried to open the file with DVD Shrink and it wouldnt open due to some errors...so i said fine,
what i did is open that file with Vob Blanker the latest version 2.1.3.0
then Vob Blanker showed me this message :
the following PGC's are marked as not one_seq but they can be marked as one_seq (recommended) Vob Blanker will do it in output IFO's
VTS 02 PGC 016.....so i clicked ok...then it shows this, VTS 02: detected 71 cells with pointers mismatch between VTS_C_ADT AND PGC_PBK tables using VTS_C_ADT initial and ending pointers this is quite usual in ILV/Multiangle VTSs, but Vob Blanker does not support them, except in skip mode, note: this is an interleaved VTS and then it shows a lot of cells at the bottom...so i clik ok again and then it shows this theres at least one ILV cell, the VTS containing these cells have been marked as skip, you can process them but playback problems (SMALL PAUSES) can appear in all PGC's originally containing ILV cells...and then i clicked on process all and then i process the whole file.
so i got the clean file and opened it with DVD Shrink and i burned it succesfully.....now the thing is that as stated on the last message by Vob Blanker im getting a lot of pauses during the movie and well that is pissing me off cause i dont have the movie with me since my friend took the movie back to florida and im in california (he bought it here though) so is there any advice so i can stop those pauses from showing on my backup movie....PLEASE HELP ME.....like i said i dont have the dvd with me any more but i do have the original file that was succesfully copied into my hdd and im willing to do anything you guys tell me...........well im sorry if i typed a lot but i dont know how to upload the images on the forum so again IM SORRY !!!!
thanks for your attention...
Christian
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PacMan777
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11. May 2007 @ 11:37 |
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For doing only compliance processing FixVTS is easier. Just drag a VOB onto the FixVTS window and with Full DVD selected process the files. Your output should then be compliant. The quick analysis in Shrink will let you know real fast.
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slamcyl
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11. May 2007 @ 11:53 |
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hi thanks for your quick answer, can you explain me a little bit more im
not that good on this....thanks
does it mean that the movie was unsuccsefully ripped into my hdd or is just those dummy cells or incorrect vob's the ones causing the movie to have a lot of pauses while playing it, by the way i burned the movie at 4x using sony media....is there any settings i can change from Vob Blanker to remove those pauses ?
thanks for your help
Christian
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11. May 2007 @ 12:34 |
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In many cases those pauses are caused by your DVD player. I have one DVD player that shows my backups with a lot of pauses, but if I put it in one of my other DVD players it plays perfect.
As far as VobBlanker goes, you can remove all unnecessary information from the DVD. This sometimes means going a little deeper into the files to do this. But for the most part I believe that it is you DVD player that is causing the problem. Does your computer play the DVD without skips and pauses?
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11. May 2007 @ 14:58 |
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@slamcyl,
Isn't the movie supposed to be in VTS4? You're stating that it's in VTS2. Maybe we're looking at different versions?
As the warning in VobBlanker says, it does not support ILV/multiangle VTS so it is marked as SKIP, and processing it will cause playback problems. But you click on Process all, thus the pause problem. Do you see where the problem is now?
Remember to use FixVTS before processing in VobBlanker.
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11. May 2007 @ 16:30 |
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Deja Vu was a problem for me until I Used DVDfab ripping the whole
disc..instead of movie only, and then used Shrink re-author to burn
title 1. worked great after wasting 11 discs trying to back up movie
only. I bought this movie the first day it was available and fought with it trying to back up just movie only.
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11. May 2007 @ 17:04 |
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Deja Vu is the first dvd in awhile that i notice was messed up for me.
i did main movies only with latest dvdfab and shrink before vacation. i brought it with me and it was all messed up.
i was so sad. have not got around to re burn it yet..
i did not even notice there was 2 version on it.
my played commentary's with movie audio.
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11. May 2007 @ 17:15 |
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@ 4574964
It sounds to me like you have a lot to learn. I had this movie the day that it came out. I used RipIt4Me, DVD ReMake Pro (close to the same as VobBlanker but has many more features available), then I analyzed it with DVD Shrink.
You said that you waisted 11 disk trying to get it right. It seems to me that if the movie goes through shrink then the only reason that you are having poor backups is because of you settings. Depending on what brand on DVD's you are using you need to set you max output setting to around 4350. I use Tayo Yuden's and so I have my output setting at 4450.
If you do not make these adjustments DVD Shrink will burn to the edge of the DVD. Most DVD's are not good quality. Use Verbatim, Ritek, or Tayo Yuden plus there are a couple of other good brans to burn your media. Make sure that you media is very good quality.
Before you burn, test the rip on the computer first. I use to have to do that before I would burn a disk to make sure that I had a good quality backup that wouldn't have problems. Normally DVDFab and FixVTS will get everything in order for you before you use Shrink. There is also another program that is free from DVDIdle.com called Free DVD.
One more thing that I would like to mention is that your software that you are using to burn with could also play a factor. If you do not have a good burning engine such as Nero then I would download ImgBurn. ImgBurn is a free program that takes very little space on you HDD but gives some of the best results. I would burn with that before I burned with Sonic, Adabtec, and a couple of others.
Last but not least. Make sure that you have the latest firmware update for you burner. Use this site to make sure that your firmware is up to date: http://forum.rpc1.org/portal.php
That should take care of all of the problems that you are having. I could not imagine going through 11 disks just to get one right!
I hope that this information will help you in future burns. Good luck!
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11. May 2007 @ 17:19 |
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Originally posted by born2ride:
Deja Vu is the first dvd in awhile that i notice was messed up for me.
i did main movies only with latest dvdfab and shrink before vacation. i brought it with me and it was all messed up.
i was so sad. have not got around to re burn it yet..
i did not even notice there was 2 version on it.
my played commentary's with movie audio.
Oh, yeah I forgot to mention that in the previous post. There are two copies of the movie. One has directors commentaries on it. I forgot that was one of the items I had to remove along with changing a couple of menu's. Those are the things that DVD ReMake Pro are good for. I'm glad you mentioned that born2ride!
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ccdoster
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11. May 2007 @ 17:47 |
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Did anybody else have problems with Charlotte's Web?
Christie
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ccdoster
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12. May 2007 @ 17:25 |
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OK was trying to backup before I even watched the movie. Sat down to watch with my kids tonight and the movie just stopped and went to the screen on my TV, "check disc for scratches". So maybe I just have a bad disc. It's a little maddening though since you can't return opened "media".
Christie
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Car.Mike
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12. May 2007 @ 18:21 |
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ccdoster,
You can return the original if it is defective which is what it sounds like if the original is what you were watching. If not dispute the credit card payment as faulty merchandise
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12. May 2007 @ 18:29 |
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That one had me scratching my head a little bit, it's multiangled and interleaved. Anyone just needs to make sure they choose the 2.05hour version and their homefree.
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