Deja Vu
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Dan_61
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2. May 2007 @ 14:53 |
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I DL deja vu and i am using DVDShrink to remove copy rights but when i try to use "open files" i cant find on my hard drive. I read in a help page you have to rip it first ?
I dont have a DVD Ripper, does Virtuosa do that ?
Dan
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2. May 2007 @ 16:53 |
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If you downloaded Deja Vu then it's probably in a format Shrink doesn't handle. Plus there's more than likely no copy protection on it.
You would need to rip it if you have the original.
Sounds like you just need to convert it to play on dvd player unless your dvd player accepts DivX.
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PacMan777
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2. May 2007 @ 18:22 |
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If it's in an AVI format and you want to convert to DVD, Nero Vision and ConvertXtoDVD are good conversion tools. The trial ConvertXtoDVD marks the video output and the Nero trial doesn't.
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Dan_61
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3. May 2007 @ 10:50 |
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Thanks
Pacman and Binkie
I have been burning for a couple of weeks now and there seems to be alot of steps and programs to use. I made an error trying to use shrink when i didnt need it. The movie didnt need the copy rights removed because of where i DL ed it from, sorry. I burned it on BurnOn
Dan
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PacMan777
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3. May 2007 @ 13:41 |
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Dan_61
You're welcome.
For the new user just wanting to burn it takes a little time to learn which software does what. There's plenty of freeware to learn on and it's amazing how good the freeware has gotten the past few years. What we see most often on the Shrink forum is burning backup DVDs. With Shrink having weak decryption software, it's best to decrypt with other programs. Shrink supports some burners, but no burner ware included. Shrink isn't really needed for burning a dual layer disc. Many of us use ImgBurn for that. That's a burner program you may want to check out. It's freeware, not adware like the BurnOn. If BurnOn works for you and you're happy with it, I'm not saying you have to change. Except for DL I use Nero for most of my burning needs.
So, a freeware setup would look something like DVDFab Decrypter to decrypt, Shrink to transcode (and edit if you like), and ImgBurn to burn. As for those occasional AVI downloads, Nero Vision does a good job on those, if they're not in a format you can play. With the new copy protections, I'd advise learning how to use FixVTS.
So, you can do just about everything DVD with 4 programs and if you need conversion you use one more. With a little practice what appears a little difficult now will become boring. I actually go looking for movies with difficult copy protection to see if they've added anything interesting that might prevent a person from doing a backup.
Glad you got-r-done.
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Dan_61
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3. May 2007 @ 16:04 |
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Thanks Pacman
I had so many problems with Nero and roxio and they take up way too much space, i am happy with BurnOn CopyToDVD and DVD Shrink.
Can i ask where you download your movies from and what is the time frame to get a DL
Dan
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PacMan777
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3. May 2007 @ 18:27 |
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Nothing wrong with those choices, but you still need a better decrypter and the FixVTS is necessary sometimes for compliance processing. You'll learn as you do more backups. Shrink hasn't been supported for about 2 or 3 years and we've seen a few additions to the copyright protections on DVDs since then. It's still a good transcoder, but a person can't just stick a DVD in the drive and open Shrink and expect everything to work out the way it did while the program was still being supported.
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Dan_61
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4. May 2007 @ 02:07 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777: Nothing wrong with those choices, but you still need a better decrypter and the FixVTS is necessary sometimes for compliance processing. You'll learn as you do more backups. Shrink hasn't been supported for about 2 or 3 years and we've seen a few additions to the copyright protections on DVDs since then. It's still a good transcoder, but a person can't just stick a DVD in the drive and open Shrink and expect everything to work out the way it did while the program was still being supported.
Ok i will check out it out so i should dump Shrink for FixVTS ?
Dan
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4. May 2007 @ 02:57 |
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Don't dump shrink. Hell of a program that's still very useful today once you get the files ripped to HDD. The easiest and most costly way is to just download AnyDVD and CloneDVD from Slysoft.com-21 day free trial- and you will be able to do any movie out there. These won't solve your AVI and DivX problem. As for Nero, try using it again. This time don't install the whole program, especially the part containing InCD. If interested in using it again post back and I'll show you the sites for clean tools etc to get the old version off. Binkie and pacman also can help too. I'm going out of town for a day this pm.
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PacMan777
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4. May 2007 @ 10:06 |
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Good call Garmoon.
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Originally posted by PacMan777: Nothing wrong with those choices, but you still need a better decrypter and the FixVTS is necessary sometimes for compliance processing. You'll learn as you do more backups. Shrink hasn't been supported for about 2 or 3 years and we've seen a few additions to the copyright protections on DVDs since then. It's still a good transcoder, but a person can't just stick a DVD in the drive and open Shrink and expect everything to work out the way it did while the program was still being supported.
Ok i will check out it out so i should dump Shrink for FixVTS ?
Dan
I wasn't saying dump Shrink. I was saying get FixVTS and learn how to use it along with your other software. Shrink is still the best freeware transcoder available. Nowadays it takes more software to do a backup than it used to when copyright protection wasn't so heavy. Shrink was intended more for transcoding and some editing more than anything else. Back in the day the author said to use Decrypter if Shrink ran into decryption problems. And I'm not saying get rid of Shrink in favor of a decryption program. Get DVDFab Decrypter or something that does a better job and open those files in Shrink. A good setup would be DVDFab Decrypter + FixVTS (for compliance processing when necessary) + DVD Shrink (for editing and/or transcoding) + ImgBurn (or another good burner of choice). The DVDFab and FixVTS are for decryption, Shrink is for transcoding, and the burn part is obvious.
So keep the Shrink. Even with all my other software I continue to have Shrink loaded on my system. I no longer use it much for transcoding, but Shrink has doesn't take much space and it still has useful utilities.
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Dan_61
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4. May 2007 @ 14:06 |
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I don't have the luzury on keeping extra programs on hard drive, limit space, need to upgrade
Dan
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4. May 2007 @ 15:33 |
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How much hard drive space do you have left?
Shrink only takes up 1 meg.
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PacMan777
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4. May 2007 @ 18:09 |
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Dan,
Binkie is right, if you're going to do video work, you need to have the room for the files. The programs I mentioned are small, so if you can't keep them, you have a serious problem that can only be remedied by a larger hard drive or clearing space from your current drive. RipIt4Me, DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink, and FixVTS altogether are only about 4MB. We're talking small here, espcecially when you're looking at recording a DVD in the range of 6-7GB to a DVD5.
I don't remember seeing your pc specs so answers to Binkie's questions and some more would help us understand more about your problem. PC brand and model, processor and speed, amount of RAM and free RAM (from taskmanager), hard drive(s) size and freespace, plus the operating system you're using, Win2K, XP or whatever.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 01:37 |
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well thats not bad, i will keep it
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5. May 2007 @ 11:13 |
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Yeah if you're worried about HDD space in installing a program then you DON'T have enough HDD space. Period. You need working room to copy or transcode a movie- probably at 10-15 GB. Before investing money into burning-copying programs, invest in a second HDD or get rid of what you can on HDD and put what you want to save on DVD RW discs and delete those files from you pc.
And check and make sure you got rid of the files that were used to make your previous DVDs. Those files get forgotten quickly if you don't delete them after they are no longer needed.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 11:30 |
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Originally posted by garmoon: Yeah if you're worried about HDD space in installing a program then you DON'T have enough HDD space. Period. You need working room to copy or transcode a movie- probably at 10-15 GB. Before investing money into burning-copying programs, invest in a second HDD or get rid of what you can on HDD and put what you want to save on DVD RW discs and delete those files from you pc.
And check and make sure you got rid of the files that were used to make your previous DVDs. Those files get forgotten quickly if you don't delete them after they are no longer needed.
Which files are you refering to garmoon
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5. May 2007 @ 11:43 |
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What do you do with the movie files you've DLed? Once you get it on the DVD disc, you do delete what you downloaded? Old internet files, programs that you don't use, anything that's consuming space.
If you have shrink set to output ISO files, you need to delete those files too, after they're burned.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 11:45 |
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Originally posted by garmoon: What do you do with the movie files you've DLed? Once you get it on the DVD disc, you do delete what you downloaded? Old internet files, programs that you don't use, anything that's consuming space.
If you have shrink set to output ISO files, you need to delete those files too, after they're burned.
Oh ok, yes i delete those, i thought there were hidden files you were refering to.
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PacMan777
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5. May 2007 @ 12:41 |
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Shrink hides the scan files, but that's nothing to worry about, they're tiny. If you're interested in seeing them, here's the path:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\DVD Shrink
It's normally a hidden folder, so copy and paste the path in Windows Explorer.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 12:50 |
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thanks Pac
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PacMan777
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5. May 2007 @ 12:59 |
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You're welcome. That might come in handy sometime when you need to redo an analysis. I use Shrink's quick analysis for a compliance check, so I go in and delete the scan files periodically.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 13:01 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777: You're welcome. That might come in handy sometime when you need to redo an analysis. I use Shrink's quick analysis for a compliance check, so I go in and delete the scan files periodically.
Is there a way to quality check a burn before watcing it, i just watched Deja Vu and halfway through the DVD player on my tv starting to vibrate a little, bad burn ?
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PacMan777
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5. May 2007 @ 13:12 |
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Some burner programs have a verify feature so you can check the burn souce against the burned DVD. It takes twice as long to do a burn that way. After the fact, you can run a read test scan for bad sectors. Just remember problem in problem out. So if you run into a problem and you still have the source on the PC, check about where your problems start and review the files you're using to burn.
Was the player physically vibrating or was the picture just acting up?
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5. May 2007 @ 15:01 |
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@Dan_61
If the player was vibrating, the disc is not balanced. You're not putting labels on those precious DVDs are you?? That's a big no no.
@PacMan
Just goes to show you, you can teach an old dog new tricks! I had no idea Shrink kept files hidden on my pc. I had 167 of them. Now they are gone. Thanks for the heads up buddy.
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Dan_61
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5. May 2007 @ 15:09 |
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Never add raisins to peanut butter cookies, makes them too hard
I just needed to feel i had some usefull information to share lol
Thanks moon, i was adding labels, make sense, no more
Dan
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