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Disks don't load after installing Wiikey
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wii_play
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18. May 2007 @ 01:56 |
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because i'm in the UK, i was going to buy my wiikey from http://www.games4play.com/ but now from what i've read not so sure, i wanted to go with them since they also throw in a Free Tri-Wing screwdriver with the wiikey for a cheap price.
i might go for http://www.dsstore.co.uk/prod3.html instead which is the other recommended UK seller listed on wiikey.cn
but if games4play are really selling clones, i would have thought that wiikey.cn would have removed them from thier resellers list by now (although it does seem like it takes wiikey.cn a couple of years to find out or let customers know whats going on, especially if this 15th of may update is anything to go by).
inapond,
hows the Wiifree going? does that let you play emulators, DVD movies, DivX, XviD, gamecube coppies like the wiikey does? and is it updateable via disc like the wiikey?
to the guy who said his wiikey is running now at 3 x speed, i've also heard that you won't be able to play all games at that speed, and some parts of other games (movies scenes???)
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lstorm
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18. May 2007 @ 02:03 |
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it's ok to up the speed to 6x ...its just the actual saving of settings that did the trick... wiikey works at 6x just fine.
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disenter
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19. May 2007 @ 23:47 |
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Hi guys, im having problems getting the wiikey going to.
It will play normal games fine, but no backups, and can't even get it to load the config disc. I burnt it the right way, and have tried burning it on a couple different +R and -R dvd's.. same result, wont read it.
I read about this changing the drive read speed, but can't find any such option in mine??? It's just like a normal wii.. how do you know when the wiikey is working apart from it booting a burnt disc?
I gave up and took it to a guy that installs chips, and he fixed it up, but still no luck..
what media is recommended to use for PAL region wii's? an how can i know its installed correctly without booting a disc? does wiikey come up with its own menu or something???
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 00:50 |
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the wiikey config disk is the menu and you can change the drive speed from the config disk but if it doesn't boot it you can't do anything.
you should try high quality media. I have been using Verbatim DVD-R Printable 16x and I have been burning at 16x. it all works fine for me.
if it reads originals it can mean that:
1. wiikey is installed correctly and your media/DVD burner are not compatible,
2. wiikey was not installed correctly
3. wiikey was installed correctly but you got a faulty chip
how did your guy fix it if it still doesn't play backups? did you actually see it working?
I guess the way to understand whether the chip works or not is to try and boot the config disk. If it doesn't boot try and check the connections from the legs of the wiikey chip to the legs of the panasonic chip on the wii. You can do that with a multimeter by setting it the beep mode. If they all connect try to check for unwanted bridges by checking if nearby points are connected. If everything checks out the installation is ok which means you probably have a faulty chip.
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wii_play
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20. May 2007 @ 01:02 |
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Originally posted by lstorm:
You can do that with a multimeter by setting it the beep mode.
i have a multimeter, could you please tell me how i put this beep mode on? (the only thing i know how to do with it, is check voltage LOL)
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 01:56 |
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what i mean to say by fixing it is, i attempted to do it myself, but didn't do a very good job, i bridged a couple of the solder points, and in removing the solder, one of the pads came off the wii. At this point i stopped as i knew i could end up doing damage to it if i plowed on. So i got a hold of this installer, and took it to him.. he had a much finer soldering iron and everything else, and he cleaned it up, attached the wire directly to the leg of the chip on the wii, since the pad was gone from the end of the track, and fixed up all the other solder points with wire, and a pad under the wiikey so it don't short. a very tidy job all in all, as i sat there and watched him do it. but it doesn't work.. only normal games load.
i have tdk -R discs and imation +R discs and neither gets it going, also tried using Nero as well as imgburn for both types of discs.. and none worked. :(
how should i set a multimeter to test this? im not very ofay with them, but i have one.
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 01:57 |
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if your multimeter has one there should be a sign showing a speaker or something..
if there is no such thing then just turn the multimeter to ohms measurement and check if it goes down to a near zero value for a connection. if it does then it's connected if its infinity then there is no connection... when checking for connections between points then you might see some values near 600 ohms... that doesn't mean that there is a short. a short means that it goes to near zero value.
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 02:02 |
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disenter.... didn't your guy check if it worked after soldering? did he leave that to you? I hope the previous post of mine helps you as well.
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 02:24 |
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yeah we tried it there to.. but no go.. but we agreed that it was at least possible that it was my media at fault.. so i had to take it home to try alternate media and burn programs to rule it out..
I will try the multimeter soon... just relaxing after dinner lol :)
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 03:04 |
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hmm well one of the points might not be working.. i will try adding a little more solder to see if it fixes it.. all the other points did get a reading.. the multimeter stays on 1.. but when it works, it ticks numbers down to like 001.. is this meaning it has a connection? or am i reading it wrong?
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 03:10 |
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When there is a connection it should show something like 001 002 ....
When there is no connection it should show 1. (that is infinity)
I would say you are doing things right... be extra careful when soldering on chip... it really easy to join the legs together. I would go back to the guy if I were u :).
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 03:13 |
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nope.. didn't fix it :(
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 03:17 |
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only one of the connections was to the leg, and that one appears to have a connection fine.. just one of the other ones didn't.. but resoldered and now it does.. but still no go :(
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 03:27 |
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now that u have resoldered check everything again and check for bridges of solder... its also usefull if you have a magnifying glass to check things.
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 03:33 |
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yep, i do, and did that .. its fooked i think.
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lstorm
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20. May 2007 @ 03:35 |
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sorry to hear that :(
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LukeO
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20. May 2007 @ 23:35 |
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Hope you gents don't mind me jumping on this thread, but looks very similar to my problem...
A friend of mine has just fitted a Wiikey for me (Bought from games4play!), surface mounted, looking very tidy indeed (He's an electronics engineer by trade).
Whilst I can still play my original games, I have tried burning my backups (Onlyt Wii Sports so far), to both a DVD+R & DVD-R discs using IBM Sonic Recordnow & ImgBurn, but get the error 'Unable to read the disc. Check the Wii operations manual for troubleshooting'.
Have also tried running the Wiikey setup disc that I've burned to DVD-R, but this doesn't boot, or read through the Wii main page. With the Wiikey setup disc in, should it boot into the Wiikey config screen before it gets to the main Wii menu???
So, as I can still play my originals, does it sound like the professional who installed the Wiikey didn't do it properly, or am I using the wrong media - Or worse, are games4play selling clones?
- If they are, without being naive, what's the impact of a clone, will it ever work?
Is there any way of telling whether the Wiikey has been sucessfully installed?
Also, do you NEED to run the Wiikey configuration before it works, or do you only need to run it if you wish to change default programmed settings?
I've seen some links on 360 sites about which media types are best, am doing a trip to PC World at lunch to try some other -R's, anyone got any recommendations?
Cheers,
Luke
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disenter
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20. May 2007 @ 23:43 |
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a friend came across this site, may be of use to you all. Though not specific to the wiikey, i would assume that it doesn't matter what chip is used, since its the type of dvdrom / laser used that should effect what media is compatibile..
http://chiip.descrambler.de/index.php/Compatible_DVD_Media
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lstorm
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21. May 2007 @ 04:24 |
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I would recommend the ones I am using. DVD-R Verbatim 16x Printable.
now about the HAVE to use the config disc part I would say yes as mine didn't work before using the config disk.
Having the config disk in the drive you will see your regular Wii Menu... and where u regularly run a game you will see that there is a gamecube disk in the drive... if you start it you will see the wiikey menu.
Just read my previous couple of posts... that's all the help I can offer about testing whether the installation is ok. My chip is from games4play and it works. I don't know it its a clone. it may well be a clone... but there is no reason why it shouldn't work unless the chip itself is defective... in that case good luck contacting them...
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LukeO
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21. May 2007 @ 05:12 |
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Thanks all for feedback...
Popped to PC World at lunch and got a pack of thethe only ones that looked promising - Verbatim Advanced AZO+ 16x certified (50 pack spindle @ £12.99... Nice!).
I've just burnt the setup disk on my laptop here at work at 2x using ImgBurn, will see if that works tonight before assuming:
a) I have a dud
b) My mate isn't as good as he says at soldering
Bit odd as I can still play originals - Will post outcome later for info....
Cheers,
Luke
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LukeO
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21. May 2007 @ 08:25 |
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OK, update...
After burning the Wiikey setup disc and my backup of Wiisport to the new Verbatim disc, still the same error reading discs!
Does this mean I have a duff chip?
- My friend surface mounted it, and the soldering was superb, far better than any pics of bad (Or good installs) I've seen online?
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LukeO
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22. May 2007 @ 00:39 |
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Picture of quick solder install...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/luke.obrien37/wiikey.jpg
1. Does this look well installed?
2. Does this look like a clone?
Welcome any feedback as STILL unable to start the setup disk having burned at 1x on a 16x certified Verbatim disc.
Cheers
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lstorm
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22. May 2007 @ 01:03 |
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nicely done... still need to check things with a multimeter though... also a surface mount like that might create shorts so check for shorts.
read my previous posts on how to check for connection with a multimeter... can't help any more than that .... that's as far as my knowedge goes.
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LukeO
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22. May 2007 @ 01:12 |
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Cheers fella,
Will grab the old mans's fluke later and have a look - Am I right in assuming I'm just checking there's a link between the pads on the chip and the main PCB?
Excuse ignorance, as it's been years since I've done any component testing, but how can I check for shorts?
Cheers
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lstorm
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22. May 2007 @ 03:08 |
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same way you would check whether there is a link between the chip :)
u just do it for unwanted links basically. check neighbouring links if they are connect at a time when they should not be connected.
the chip looks genuine... it appears to be from the new batch as mine is completly different. did it come with a genuine laser sticker? because the new ones do i think!
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