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20. May 2007 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Like I told you guys yesterday, I modded my brothers MS28 right out the box, he has 0 original games. He got banned yesterday.


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20. May 2007 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No problem. I may not be the 1st since I don't think I'll get a chance to until early next week. My parents are flying to visit since it's my daughter 1st birthday this weekend which is also Memorial Day weekend. Regardless, I'm definitely doing it unless I hear reports of bans before. I know 2 people with non banned Sammys that were only flash once and before they went on Live.
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20. May 2007 @ 08:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what ever microsoft have done theyve disable the network card 2, my lans not workin now :S
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20. May 2007 @ 08:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PS2menance what firmware did you flash it out the box with and I know it's getting tired asking, but did he play any games that could sent off red flags?

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20. May 2007 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by Memnock:
For anyone not banned has your 360 ever been connected to the internet before you flashed? It seems so be a common trend for everyone not banned to never have been on Live before they 1st flashed.
Good theory, but I modded my brother's 360 the minute he got it. He's only played me on LIVE (FNR3) and today, he was banned. MS28 with xtreme 5.2a
Alright, but he didn't have the jitter protection.
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20. May 2007 @ 08:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
please put details on this website http://www.locallans.com/index.php . thanks
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20. May 2007 @ 09:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by PS2Menace:
Like I told you guys yesterday, I modded my brothers MS28 right out the box, he has 0 original games. He got banned yesterday.
xtreme 52!! poor soul you didn't even give him jitter protection! lol
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20. May 2007 @ 09:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by hoddey:
please put details on this website http://www.locallans.com/index.php . thanks
looked there and no pattern emerging! no point ms got everyone except there hit was random! wait up till everyone gets caught! the jitter fix before spring and after spring update don't matter. neither does going on live with original firmware and then flashing later! no patter people who modded out of box banned and people who modded a year after using live banned! CAN"T SEE A PATTERN!! GIVE ME A SIGN! LET THE LIGHTING BOLT STRIKE MICROSOFT BANNING STATION AND FREE OUR SOULS!!! lol
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20. May 2007 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also a problem with that site is more people need to put more info in there like when they flashed and how many times.

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20. May 2007 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So this is what I have discovered?

After the spring update, my Samsung ms28 with NME-360 1.2 kept freezing up for a minute or so. This also happened to my Hitachi drive flashed with the 2.4 firmware.

It seemed as if the spring update checked if the console was modded in any way, then reported the consoles serial number to Xbox Live, which in turn banned that console.

Even if you not hooked up to broadband but have a modded console with the new spring update, you screwed when you connect to Live!

Bad luck for people who want to reverse or remove their mods. If your console was modded when you updated your console with the spring update, the update will still report back to Live, and ban your console!

So now you thinking, I won?t update my console with the spring update! Unfortunately all the latest 360 game?s like Forza 2 will have this security update on the disc.

So, if you want to play online with originals and you have a modded console, reverse or remove your mods before you plan to update with the spring update. The update will report back to M$ that your console is Kosher!
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20. May 2007 @ 09:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is pretty interesting guys. I filter by flashed before going on Live and Jitter check. Every most Samsungs aren't banned on that list and the ones that are either didn't have pre-Spring update jitter protection, played Crackdown (I'm assuming they hit the Halo Beta too), one guy had a chip and another didn't give extra info.

http://www.locallans.com/index.php?do=ad...beforelive&id=1
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20. May 2007 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
read on another site that C4Eva has figured out how they are banning folks...and is working on a new firmware as we speak... supposed to only work for NEW/Unbanned consoles thou.... lets hope it works...

the cat and mouse games begin!

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20. May 2007 @ 09:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what site?


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20. May 2007 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on that database. Looking at the data gives me mixed feelings.

There's plenty of people who flashed their firmwares before going on Live the first time. And yet plenty (nearly 50%) of them are banned. So I think this theory is proven false. Another big no-no is flashing back or to another firmware during springupdate period.

I still think they are banning in batches, and you're lucky if you haven't been banned yet.
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20. May 2007 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey you think if I returned the console at walmart with a new one it would be ok even if you did not flash it back to the original firmware or would I have to flash it back thanks in advance


If you want things done right then sometimes you have to do it yourself :)
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20. May 2007 @ 10:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Omg, Seriously Stop complaining. Trash MS all you want, But, That would be just like you cheating off a test. The other person would get pissed because they thought of It. Well, MS made the game, so no wonder they will ban you if you d/l their games... I'm all for the piracy thing, I have a modded ps2, so i could care less if people d/l games. But don't complain, It's childish.
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20. May 2007 @ 11:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with tai56, everyone knew what they were getting themselves into possibly, we need to work towards "how" they are detecting backups and then work off that
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20. May 2007 @ 11:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JLF24:
read on another site that C4Eva has figured out how they are banning folks...and is working on a new firmware as we speak... supposed to only work for NEW/Unbanned consoles thou.... lets hope it works...

the cat and mouse games begin!
Ok if this is so true give us a link, because no one has heard anything from C4eva lately.
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20. May 2007 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LoL @ the situation. Cmon guys, you're not stupid. You all knew M$ wasn't gonna let you guys get on LIVE with a modded box forever. I'm still waiting for a good chip. Ain't nothin gettin in my way of playin Halo 3 online.

To me the risk is too high for this firmware nonsense. Unless you dont mind buying a X360 for Live. ;)
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20. May 2007 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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[quote][quote=Memnock]For anyone not banned has your 360 ever been connected to the internet before you flashed? It seems so be a common trend for everyone not banned to never have been on Live before they 1st flashed.
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Good theory, but I modded my brother's 360 the minute he got it. He's only played me on LIVE (FNR3) and today, he was banned. MS28 with xtreme 5.2a
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Alright, but he didn't have the jitter protection.
Doesn't matter, they're banning people period. I've modded many peoples drives and they're ALL banned. Jitter-protection or not.

One guy I modded his 0078Fk with xtreme 1.7 and he never updated to the spring update, banned as well..

Another has a MS28 that I modded the DAY the new FW came out, Banned as well. He only had the console on live for 2 days.

There is no pattern. They just plain flat out KNOW.


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20. May 2007 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That would be nice if they found a cure for the banned disease. When i got my 360, i vowed that i would not spend a red cent on originals so i waited till i modded my unit before i even went on live playing backups. Anyways i'm still unbanned and i'm staying away from xbox live.
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20. May 2007 @ 12:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Originally posted by JLF24:
read on another site that C4Eva has figured out how they are banning folks...and is working on a new firmware as we speak... supposed to only work for NEW/Unbanned consoles thou.... lets hope it works...

the cat and mouse games begin!
Ok if this is so true give us a link, because no one has heard anything from C4eva lately.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s...0&#entry3999657


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20. May 2007 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here is my question. i installed the spring update the day it came out and i went to live that day. after that i didnt go to xbox live. neither i turn on my console. but ethernet cable from my to 360 was connected. does it mean that they detected my firmware and get em banned or they cant do anything till i signed in live.
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20. May 2007 @ 12:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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