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Modded Xbox 360s banned from XBL
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article published on 18 May, 2007
As many Afterdawn users found out the hard way this week, Microsoft has begun banning modified Xbox 360 consoles from being able to access Xbox Live. A Microsoft spokesperson described the move as "an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules".
Microsoft also said it was banning by unit rather than ... [ read the full article ]
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18. May 2007 @ 17:20 |
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I have witnessed a few players online that have modded systems and they clearly had the advantage with their cheats or hacks. But I agree with a lot of the post already. Once you purchase a item its yours and you should and do have the right to do with it as you please. This article just shows how much dictatorship Billiam Gates have due to how much $$$$$$ that mofo got. If you bought the system XBL and the original games and want to back up what you got thats your right to protect your investment. The problem is just as people complain about Sony forcing Blu-ray on you Billiam is forcing you to DRM, repeat buys of the same product(hence backing up games) and etc.... I could go on for days with that crap. All these major companies are the same money and power is the ultimate goal. Cheaters should be banned. Modders, customizers, and people who want to keep their games in mint condition by backing up and those that dont want to upgrade to some crappy firmware that makes their system do things they dont like should have a choice to what they want.
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ThaJazz
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18. May 2007 @ 20:57 |
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when it is all said and done microsoft what you to buy games from the store that is how they make money.it is the business part that nobody seem to undertsand.iam not defending microsoft but i do understand where they come from.after all they are taking a hit on each console sold that is not our fault but somebody gotta pay.
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scorpNZ
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18. May 2007 @ 23:06 |
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I have no sympathy for anyone that's dumbass enought to go on live while using the modified chip,your loosers,just be thankful it's only the console that gets banned nough said
EDIT: Actually it aint enough said so here's some more ...lol..you can attempt to justify with whatever lame excuses with whatever you like in the end there's still no need or defence for using the mod chip on live,you want to use a mod chip online go make your own live service with no restrictions so that your all on a level playing field but that would put you at a disadvantage would'nt it coz the field is level again,do you hear that it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you loosers lmao
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Z3120
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19. May 2007 @ 02:35 |
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Quotes: "A Microsoft spokesperson described the move as 'an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules'."
Hence, I must say, why I don't bother to play online gaming anymore. As fun as it was back then in the past to play Starcraft, Counterstrike and Warcraft 3, it was exceptionally annoying to get trounced by annoying little expletives who simply use hacks to gain an upper hand (especially those with microphones and you can't silence them!) yet they hardly admit of anything with sheer ignorance and arrogance for that matter about it when caught although yes, the online service was free; however, if I was paying for a service like XBL, I'd expect quality control and regulation or problems minimized to a nominal degree so I wouldn't be self-conscientiously aware of such a nuisance. Yes, hacks and cheats will forever be attached to gaming when played, but I don't want to suffer the consequences of hack kiddies running around.
On a side note, I feel like playing SC/BW ever since the pending rumor of SC2... too bad someone literally sat on my copy.
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koolcat21
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19. May 2007 @ 04:48 |
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im sory but im sick of hearing everyone bash ppl with modded systems. the only reason most of u didnt mod is cuz ur a tard and cant follow directions. o well ppl got ban'd have fun playing on live with less ppl. and for cheating how the fuck do ppl cheat? did they rehack the game and put in there own cheats i dont think so. o they cheated cuz they have a cloned copy of the game WOW. boo fucking hoo get over u lil piss ants.
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georgeluv
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19. May 2007 @ 07:12 |
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in the ps2 modding days there was a tool that let you change your machine address if you got banned. the result was they stopped banning people cause it was just a mouse click away from being a new ps2 and getting back online anyway.
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19. May 2007 @ 07:34 |
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Anyone care to direct me to where one can learn about modding an Xbox360.
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imacamper
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19. May 2007 @ 07:35 |
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Originally posted by knuttdogg:
Now game sales may suffer a little from the back up point, but how many games have your kids F&^% up and you have to replace them at $60+ a unit. (That's why it works). I have a purchased copy of all my games and a backup, because I have kids that don't care about things like some adults.
I am not disputing your right to make backups. But regarding your children's lack of respect for their things, you could do what I do and make my kids pay for what they F&^% up. I know, depending upon the age of your children, they might not be able to pay $60, but you can make them pay in other ways (extra chores, loss of priviledges, etc.). It will teach them to respect their (and your) things. Why take care of anything if Dad will "just buy me a new one"?
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ZzeusS
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19. May 2007 @ 07:59 |
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The whole point of consoles and online gaming was to put everyone on an even footing. This is great news.
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dinger123
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19. May 2007 @ 08:49 |
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You are allowed to backup your game so i think they are just being the big bullies again,i back mine up and keep the originals,so now ill just cancel my acount at the end.Just like all the others that have been banned i expect.So it looks like a ps3 for me.....
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eandtc
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19. May 2007 @ 09:33 |
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"Once you purchase a item its yours and you should and do have the right to do with it as you please."
Guess what? You can still do this. But just because you want to mod your Box doesn't mean MS has to let you on their network. It's not mandatory for playing the games, and you are not entitled to the network either.
Sorry that you guys don't get every single thing you want. Such is life.
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DancingWD
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19. May 2007 @ 09:42 |
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I'm sorry im not very familiar with xBox360 (i dont have it) but are there any cheating systems like codebraker on PS2 or hacks that are loaded through mod chips? as far as I'm aware there is only drive flashing to enable "backups" and no real Modchip (i'm not counting those that imitate flashing) to run homebrew software.
so .. what kind of cheats are you talking about?
So MS (asuming i'm correct) just bans only ppl that pirate or use backups/flash the console ... no big deal :D PC pirates know: whana plau online get an original, dont whana - 'backups' work just fine. so I dont see no tragedy in this.
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Messaline
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19. May 2007 @ 09:46 |
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IMHO, Microsoft is making a huge mistake; Just from observation, less people use live then have modded their 360. What they should be doing is 2 fold. Any mod that has an off switch, should only be "banned" or blocked while it's turned on and detected as "homebrew" bios. secondly, those boxes with mods turned on should be relegated to separate servers, though I wouldn't call them "cheater's servers"; not everyone with a mod is cheating in-game. It shouldn't even be apparent to the end user that they're cordioned off from the main population; just dump them in a segregated server pool .
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djeazyg
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19. May 2007 @ 09:54 |
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Originally posted by dinger123:
You are allowed to backup your game so i think they are just being the big bullies again,i back mine up and keep the originals,so now ill just cancel my acount at the end.Just like all the others that have been banned i expect.So it looks like a ps3 for me.....
What makes you think Sony won't do the same thing? You can bet your ass they will.
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GerryMcG
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19. May 2007 @ 09:58 |
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Hi , is it possible to reflash your xbox360 with original software and play genuine 360 games on xbox live?
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19. May 2007 @ 10:13 |
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Originally posted by scorpNZ:
I have no sympathy for anyone that's dumbass enought to go on live while using the modified chip,your loosers,just be thankful it's only the console that gets banned nough said
EDIT: Actually it aint enough said so here's some more ...lol..you can attempt to justify with whatever lame excuses with whatever you like in the end there's still no need or defence for using the mod chip on live,you want to use a mod chip online go make your own live service with no restrictions so that your all on a level playing field but that would put you at a disadvantage would'nt it coz the field is level again,do you hear that it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you loosers lmao
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Well well MR sheeple lap up and enjoy the crap they are feeding you, the whole point of a mod is to add extra value to the console and buying new crap games only lets them poo out more crap games so when can fully test a game before plopping down 60 it helps,altho I have found buying used at 10-30 a pop is more effiant from that stand point.
Also MS has not made any cheat devices for the 360 if they made it and controlled it online and gave SP gamers that option the mod chip would look less appealing.
Funny thing abotu live you pay for it they should make it if you are caught chaetings that s instant goodbye but if you are caught with a modded system thats a "renewed subscription" :X
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DancingWD
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19. May 2007 @ 10:25 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
I have no sympathy for anyone that's dumbass enought to go on live while using the modified chip,your loosers,just be thankful it's only the console that gets banned nough said
EDIT: Actually it aint enough said so here's some more ...lol..you can attempt to justify with whatever lame excuses with whatever you like in the end there's still no need or defence for using the mod chip on live,you want to use a mod chip online go make your own live service with no restrictions so that your all on a level playing field but that would put you at a disadvantage would'nt it coz the field is level again,do you hear that it's the worlds smallest violin and it's playing just for you loosers lmao
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Well well MR sheeple lap up and enjoy the crap they are feeding you, the whole point of a mod is to add extra value to the console and buying new crap games only lets them poo out more crap games so when can fully test a game before plopping down 60 it helps,altho I have found buying used at 10-30 a pop is more effiant from that stand point.
Also MS has not made any cheat devices for the 360 if they made it and controlled it online and gave SP gamers that option the mod chip would look less appealing.
Funny thing abotu live you pay for it they should make it if you are caught chaetings that s instant goodbye but if you are caught with a modded system thats a "renewed subscription" :X
:D like I said in my reasoning above :D its only targeted at backups/pirates :D so there would be no point if you ban them permamently :D it not like flashed versions Cheat :D they only alow to play while not paying for the game (well and backups ofcourse :D) So once you payup yore a good customer again :D
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19. May 2007 @ 10:58 |
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DancingWD
ya in this move MS can annoy backupers and get money from them too if they don't prema ban them.
Only cheaters disrupt enough to earn a prema ban.
SP cheating on the 360 is as annoying as on the Xbox..I really wish someone would hack the damn thing already and sale a normal cheat device.
I am a odd one(can uuu tell?=^^=) I like re balancing to fun not so much god mode/inf HP I would rather loosen up some of the restrictions and have fun!
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19. May 2007 @ 11:58 |
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I think some of you have it all wrong. The firmware hack does NOT allow for cheating on XBL. The content on the discs is signed. It won't boot if any of the content has been modified. So, how 'bout a valid reason to call hackers pieces of sh1t.....
Also, as far as "unworthy" traffic being taken up on another server, XBL is the only one available for the 360. I think that's were MS has it all wrong, they want to control everything on the 360 including all network traffic passing through it and as such doesn't allow for any alternatives. You can say, well, why not use a game tunneling service? Well, the 360 has a ping limiter implemented in most games and not all games have system link.
On a side note, hopefully this will wake the hackers from their sleep and they'll find a useful exploit on the 360 which will lead to homebrew.
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lyd
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19. May 2007 @ 12:43 |
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is there a mod chip so microsoft cant tell the xbox 360 is not modded
i know somones 360 thats modded and never been baned yet
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OMEGASA
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19. May 2007 @ 13:32 |
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i just have one question about all of this. I got banned from live on my xbox but i have 2 360. if i take my hard drive with the live account and put it in the other one will that one also be banned. M$ says their only banning consoles so if i play live with real games on the originl 360 they cant ban it, right?
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19. May 2007 @ 13:35 |
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Originally posted by OMEGASA:
i just have one question about all of this. I got banned from live on my xbox but i have 2 360. if i take my hard drive with the live account and put it in the other one will that one also be banned. M$ says their only banning consoles so if i play live with real games on the originl 360 they cant ban it, right?
In cases like this 1 360 for moding to play backups and 1 for online its abotu the only way to do it.
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OMEGASA
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19. May 2007 @ 13:58 |
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ya but what if the modded one is the one you go online with and its the one that got banned. if you take the hard drive from the banned one and put it into a unbanned one is there some sort of code they have loaded onto the harddrive that will ban the other 360.
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DancingWD
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19. May 2007 @ 14:05 |
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I think the bans are acording to the embeded serial number of xBox 360 (I think). It's a good thing MS just bans modBox's :D not bricks them :D that would be a laugh :D
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TurkReno
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19. May 2007 @ 14:45 |
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This is the only thing I'm going to say. The rest, you guys can whine all you want.
1. Microsoft XBox Live Security Team did this for Piracy and for Exploitation.
2. The reprocussions of these mod'd 360's are clearly your own fault. Its in the EULA and the "Shrinkwrap Agreement" you signed up with on XBox Live to not reverse engineer, modify, blah blah blah, anything.
3. With as much console exploitation as I've done, and as much gaming hacks that I've worked on, this is minor. There are other networks where people already go with mod'd 360's anyway, so stop whining.
4. To the remark that has "Children" and "Modchips" in the same statement, you need to think twice. How many kids do you think are capable of using a soldering iron correctly, much less not defacing a CPU? Few. That's all on that.
5. Let them stay off XBox Live. They signed up for it, they got what they paid for, they broke the rules, such is life.
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