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Modded Xbox 360s banned from XBL
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article published on 18 May, 2007
As many Afterdawn users found out the hard way this week, Microsoft has begun banning modified Xbox 360 consoles from being able to access Xbox Live. A Microsoft spokesperson described the move as "an important part of our efforts to try and maintain a fair gaming environment for the large majority of gamers that play by the rules".
Microsoft also said it was banning by unit rather than ... [ read the full article ]
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samuels
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[quote]"you are implying all internet users liars!!
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calling me a liar
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so just get over it,so what if i'm wrong,so what if your wrong,are we not allowed to express an opinion on a forum without turning it into a slanging match?who cares who's right or wrong,most of us have done searches on this topic,and we have all come up with different answers...
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did. But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but I for one am not going to stand here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
you accept that what M$ has done is good,i'm not really denying that either,but the way you speak about it,can you honestly say to me,that you haven't breached someone elses copyrighted material,like downloading music(artists permission) and movies(MPIAA)i'm not sure if i have that organisations name right,even cammers,if you say you don't,your a liar...see my point now.everyone has done something like this at one stage or another,and are quite possibly still doing so.
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davidrose
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3. June 2007 @ 06:42 |
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well learn how to comprehend :)
nothing in this world is ever really constructive,as no-one ever believes anyone,they just like to spit and spatter....thats life
Yeah ok then...
So that may be for you, and the way you see it, but your not going to win, of course everyone copied a movie on a vcr from TV and recorded a song off the radio, The argument is old, and I know that you know that. Sorry at you if you think life isn?t constructive, sorry that?s life.
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3. June 2007 @ 07:50 |
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but the way you speak about it,can you honestly say to me,that you haven't breached someone elses copyrighted material
What I said about this then:
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You: but, hey i bet you have broken a law or two :)
Me: Irrelevant to this discussion.
What I say about this now:
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well learn how to comprehend :)
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3. June 2007 @ 09:52 |
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*hopefully changeing the direction of the thread*
its nice to see MGS4 heading to the 360 ,lets hope FF dose as well :X
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samuels
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3. June 2007 @ 15:28 |
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You: but, hey i bet you have broken a law or two :)
it is relavent to this discussion
What I say about this now:
[quote]well learn how to comprehend :)
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you need to learn comprhension too
1)...you completely missed my point,it may of seemed i was whining about XBL...sorry if i sounded like that...FACT...i stated..i'm not into live...
2)FACT...i also stated,i have a tendency to agree with you,but people were/are still getting banned with legit 360's,opening up a pandoras box(not the word i used i know,but it still means the same)for M$
3)there is an internet protocol....which no-one uses including you(once again iv'e stated this,but not in this wording)so therefore is relevant to this discussion,i called you a liar,as i bet you have downloaded music content or illegal/non released movies,including cammers(once again,i didn't word it like this,but still means the same thing)..breaking internet protocol...
and finally,i also stated that....sure people with modded boxes use live,i stated, M$'s response to the bannings were to eliminate modded boxes,then as you or someone else stated...cheating,abuse,etc....Fact...i agreed that cheating and abuse shouldn't be tolerated,but as for modded boxes,i stated,that i thought it unfair,as the person with the modded box,still payed for the service,especially where a console is allowed to be modded,to which i stated,could make a good case in a court of law,as M$ will have to prove that the person was using a back up,YES i know what the EULA states,but that is the falling point,i believe in countries that are allowed to mod their consoles,...thats my opinion,am i not allowed an opinion? and defend that opinion?
FACT...i also stated,i am not right,and that you aren't right...yet you still fail to comprehend my point...
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samuels
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well learn how to comprehend :)
nothing in this world is ever really constructive,as no-one ever believes anyone,they just like to spit and spatter....thats life
Yeah ok then...
So that may be for you, and the way you see it, but your not going to win, of course everyone copied a movie on a vcr from TV and recorded a song off the radio, The argument is old, and I know that you know that. Sorry at you if you think life isn?t constructive, sorry that?s life.
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why does it have to be a winnig match....i'm not out to win,thats for sure,see you mis understood my post,or it went straight over your head...i stated, music,movies and cammers,not radio and TV,but if you want to get technical,that is illegal too,well here, where i am from,but to put it in a court of law,is pointless as it isn't policed,strange i know,but like you say,it's an old argument,and so is our law on this,and hasn't been updated...
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3. June 2007 @ 15:44 |
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samuels
any chance of a hack/mod group making some good single player based cheats?
it dose not seem like any 3rd party cheat devices will be coming anytime soon for it.
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3. June 2007 @ 16:26 |
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As for innocent people being banned, 99% of them are idiots claiming that they didnt mod it when its very obvious that they have. xbox.com has loads of people claiming they have legit boxes and yet in their recently played list they have games that arent even out yet, they are just trying to get M$ to unban them. The other 1% are people unlucky enough to get a refurbished console that already had a firmware mod on it, the fact that these consoles will have the warranty sticker intact (Yes I know if you try you can get it off then put it back on) so they will replace them.
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samuels
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3. June 2007 @ 17:32 |
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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
samuels
any chance of a hack/mod group making some good single player based cheats?
it dose not seem like any 3rd party cheat devices will be coming anytime soon for it.
i dunno edited by ddp....you tell me
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samuels
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Originally posted by Andrew691:
As for innocent people being banned, 99% of them are idiots claiming that they didnt mod it when its very obvious that they have. xbox.com has loads of people claiming they have legit boxes and yet in their recently played list they have games that arent even out yet, they are just trying to get M$ to unban them. The other 1% are people unlucky enough to get a refurbished console that already had a firmware mod on it, the fact that these consoles will have the warranty sticker intact (Yes I know if you try you can get it off then put it back on) so they will replace them.
M$ are having issues with the earlier xbox 360's,they are refurbishing them with out checking the firmware,and sending them back out to the general population.why don't you phone M$ your self and find out.
do you see the modders bitching about being banned?i haven't,what i have seen is that they are determined to beat M$ at their own game,and so far they have,with a new fix out.
i was at my place of purchase of my 360,and there were people there to pick up their consoles,the salesmen were informing them,that their consoles were being replaced with refurbished ones as theirs was completely buggered...now it's up to you whether you believe that or not.
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3. June 2007 @ 17:49 |
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samuels
any chance of a hack/mod group making some good single player based cheats?
it dose not seem like any 3rd party cheat devices will be coming anytime soon for it.
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i dunno edited by ddp....you tell me
ROTFLMAO! XD
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well learn how to comprehend :)
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[quote]samuels
any chance of a hack/mod group making some good single player based cheats?
it dose not seem like any 3rd party cheat devices will be coming anytime soon for it.
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i dunno edited by ddp....you tell me
ROTFLMAO! XD
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i'm sorry to say ...but you are an edited by ddp...sorry ,but if you can't read properly,it's no use flogging a dead horse.
obvious you don't have a sense of humor either
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3. June 2007 @ 18:34 |
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yeeesshhhh what is it mods week off?
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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3. June 2007 @ 19:00 |
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samuels, lightning struck!!! posts edited
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eandtc
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4. June 2007 @ 05:30 |
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Or shall we say....."modded"? :D
(I crack myself up)
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this is not ebay. edited by ddp
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Originally posted by eandtc:
Or shall we say....."modded"? :D
(I crack myself up)
LOL, too much, looks like someone missed the topic, and the humor.
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Originally posted by eandtc:
Or shall we say....."modded"? :D
(I crack myself up)
LOL, too much, looks like someone missed the topic, and the humor.
when you rant like that for 3 or so pages people are going to report you for flameing....
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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LOL I soooooo agree with Zippy! We have not seen eye to eye at times (aka the Final Fantasy thread), but I still respect his opinions. The problem here is that some arse holes dont realize we are debating over something as lame as consoles, and get too caught up being right. IMO samuels should be gone, he went a few steps over the line and personally attacked people for opinions on a console which differed from his own. Lame.
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eandtc
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LOL, too much, looks like someone missed the topic, and the humor.
I'm guessing you are referring to dpp, since it was a mod who banned him, not I.
Fact is, samuels was getting so touchy as to be jumping at shadows. ZIppyDSM asked him a legitimate question, and samuels overreacted. If there was any humor in that exchange, it was unintentional.
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Originally posted by svtstang:
LOL I soooooo agree with Zippy! We have not seen eye to eye at times (aka the Final Fantasy thread), but I still respect his opinions. The problem here is that some arse holes dont realize we are debating over something as lame as consoles, and get too caught up being right. IMO samuels should be gone, he went a few steps over the line and personally attacked people for opinions on a console which differed from his own. Lame.
i have read all these pages.*phew*some make some valid points,but i couldn't help notice the slack comments thrown at samuels,IMO he made some very valid points,if you take the time to think,instead of racing for the keyboard just to shoot someone down,you speak of arse holes on here,well i can name a few straight up,and you are one of them for making such flaming remarks,i dont think he went over the line,i say eandtc,david rose,ZippyDSM and yourself did,you slagged off/flamed more than what samuels did,unless i missed something whilst reading this forum,i did not see any statement,that his console was different from anyone elses,and as for the mod, DDP ,bloke i really think you need to get a life,i think the mod "status" has gone to your brain.
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6. June 2007 @ 01:13 |
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you all asked samuels to back up his claims that unmodded xbox 360 consoles were being banned on live as well.
Why don't you all go back to page one and read what someone else claimed,they claimed the same as samuels,but not one person demanded "proof" .
heres some information for you,i have had an xbox 360 go bung on me,it was sent back to microsoft,it was returned,and some 2-3 weeks later i started to get the red rings of death,i phoned microsoft support,they asked me for the serial number,the customer support rep had said to me,thats the third time that machines been in,for the exact same problem,my reply was-you are joking aren't you.Question-how could it of been in three times?when i haven't had any problems up until the first and only time for me.
Answer-I got back a refurbished xbox 360
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Originally posted by surtees:
you all asked samuels to back up his claims that unmodded xbox 360 consoles were being banned on live as well.
Why don't you all go back to page one and read what someone else claimed,they claimed the same as samuels,but not one person demanded "proof" .
heres some information for you,i have had an xbox 360 go bung on me,it was sent back to microsoft,it was returned,and some 2-3 weeks later i started to get the red rings of death,i phoned microsoft support,they asked me for the serial number,the customer support rep had said to me,thats the third time that machines been in,for the exact same problem,my reply was-you are joking aren't you.Question-how could it of been in three times?when i haven't had any problems up until the first and only time for me.
Answer-I got back a refurbished xbox 360
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some of what he said was truthful but but the convo degenerated some and the name calling did not help.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Originally posted by svtstang:
LOL I soooooo agree with Zippy! We have not seen eye to eye at times (aka the Final Fantasy thread), but I still respect his opinions. The problem here is that some arse holes dont realize we are debating over something as lame as consoles, and get too caught up being right. IMO samuels should be gone, he went a few steps over the line and personally attacked people for opinions on a console which differed from his own. Lame.
might want to check it again I posted about FF12 since I got a hold of it,same BS from the last few games the equipment and skill system are crippled and and drowned (had a dream abotu it Balthiar having Edgar's skills form FF6) the world/level design is solid enough and the VAing/dialog is one of the best in game dubing but the game play itself is lacking and the live action battles only make them faster not better... all in all better than 8 and X but not better than the the classic FF style(4,6,9),7 was the only solid "new type" FF I could like the rest seem hobbled togather.
(ack I hit preview and not post last night)
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a link to the FF thread
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23/198402#3132833
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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eandtc
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6. June 2007 @ 07:25 |
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Why don't you all go back to page one and read what someone else claimed,they claimed the same as samuels,but not one person demanded "proof" .
If you would be so kind as to go back and read my posts, you would see I was asking for proof about the so-called laws he was claiming existed. He named one, but refused to go into specifics. Go figure.
As to refurbished 360's, I have no doubt this can happen, as well as un-modded Xboxes getting banned as well, but these are certainly the exception, not the rule, and automatically screaming "lawsuit" is a touch much. It just got to the point where samuels was just pulling stuff out of his butt and presenting it as fact, and that gets tiresome. YMMV.
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