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Sony threatens PlayStation 3 hackers
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article published on 13 June, 2007
After reports surfaced that hackers had cracked the PlayStation 3's anti-piracy software, Sony America has declared that it will "aggressively pursue" anyone who is caught doing so. They have said the activity will merit legal action if caught.
"Unfortunately, hackers will try to exploit any hardware system software," SCEA spokesperson Dave Karraker said.
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13. June 2007 @ 07:52 |
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This Happened to the xbox 360 too but ps3 is all shitty so I dont care.
Just Kidding :)
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13. June 2007 @ 07:53 |
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anyone caught trying to use an exploit in an illegal manner
Does this mean it is okay if you legally bought the game and want to play a backup copy?
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13. June 2007 @ 08:42 |
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nope, you cant play backups yet anyway, they r just beating the hackers to it ll, microsoft is still trying to catch up with thier hackers, lots of modded consoles can still go on xbox live without having to worry about getting banned and now sony has done this before its hacked and games are playable.
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13. June 2007 @ 08:54 |
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Whether or not they get the hackers, keep in mind that there are 6 BILLION people on this planet. SOMEONE is gonna get there sooner or later. When i asked my console retailer (who sells copied games) whether or not the PS3 had a modchip yet he actually told me, "our chief technician has to study and familiarize with the console first; then he can make a modchip"
As you can see its just a matter of time before someone makes a hack and starts making big bucks. This is gonna lead other people to making better modchips and sooner or later the Ps3 will be like the Ps2 where you can even download and play games from the net!
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13. June 2007 @ 09:04 |
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I'm sorry to say it to Sony since,. right now, the company (at least gaming entertainment divisions) cannot suffer any more set backs, but come on, you spent $599 on a console, you "must" have the right to use the powerful hardware under the hood the way you see it.
I'm sick of all of this license agreement nonsense and the spin that tries to set it into your head that your own bloody console is not yours to do with as you like. Personally, I hope to see PS3 opened up to homebrew, might take a little time but can you imagine the motivation to develop software for something quite powerful.
Back on point though, it's very democratically unhealthy (if you can accept that as a description) for companies like this to shape law and enforce stupid limits on consumers. Your console will be hacked... now GET OVER IT!
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13. June 2007 @ 09:09 |
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Thanks Dela...you should work for Sony and get it into thier heads. Talking about doing what you want with your console; i have this RICH friend who bought a Ps3, did not like it, opened it, took out all the wires and junk, and............guess what; he made a BREAD box out of it! I was so pissed cuz i wanted one myself. Again, Sony, you console is the price of a cheap PC, so i think the consumer should have the right to make the most of it.
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13. June 2007 @ 09:13 |
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I see news of this supposed "threat" from Sony on a lot of other ps3 scene boards, and even Usenet. The hackers might have taken their sweet time with the console in hacking it..but now that Sony in their infinite arrogance once again is issuing threats..the hacking community will be THAT MUCH MORE DETERMINED to unzip that console and everything its worth.
If only Sony had left well enough alone.
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13. June 2007 @ 09:35 |
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Does this mean it is okay if you legally bought the game and want to play a backup copy?
its a grey area, some US laws say this is alowed, but first youll have to break the encryption on the original disk, and "bypassing electronic security measures" is against the law. once you actualy have the copied disk, your in the clear, the only thing illegal in what you want to do is the initial action of copying the game. simply possesiong or usuing the copied game is not illegal. i have actualy gone threw american airport security with binders and binders of copied movies and they didnt say shit.
also, modding your consoul in america is not illegal, you are alowed to fuck around with anything you buy, but i woudlnt publish the information you aquire though.
if you download the game from online and the security has already been taken out your even more in the clear.
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13. June 2007 @ 10:07 |
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It is not that I support hacking fully.
The only two "hacks" I am approved of is:
1.) Wallpaper changing.
Please dont get me wrong - that wallpaper of XMB looks good. It is just becoming bored wallpapers after a while. I just want to add more cheerful/bright wallpapers to XMB instead of dark, black gloomy wallpaper (I know it is due to time of day - but i can only play PS3 at nighttime since I got daytime job :( )./
2.) perhaps most important of all - stripping all those unnecessary region-protection for any online games.
I mean, I got HK PS3 right. I bought PAL version of RoF-M game as I was looking forward to play it online. But I couldn't do so because the game itself forbids me to access to European servers beausee my PS3 is not european! Cheeky of Sony - trying to impose barriers in cyberspace/internet! Internet should be free and accessible regardless of person's location/computer/PS3 around the world!
Also, this movement by Sony may infring human's right and freedom of speech. I mean, I wanted to play that game against my UK friends. Also I wanted to play against my best friends in HK and USA via Internet. I have no problem playing it online with them via MSN or any PC games. Yet Sony try to impose barrier on the internet with its PS3 network. cheeky!
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13. June 2007 @ 10:13 |
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i have actualy gone threw american airport security with binders and binders of copied movies and they didnt say shit.
LOL haven't we all :)
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13. June 2007 @ 10:25 |
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I don't agree with the pirating of games. Other areas of technology that's being shared can be altered in another form to still produce quality revenue, but not games. Company X who develops games can't go to a major corporation and have them buy 1000 licenses of their latest game. You, the consumer, are the only source of revenue for the game developer and unless you want a Pepsi commercial to play just after you beat the big boss, I think we should all make an effort to never pirate games (or at least brand new games). I do think, however, copyright rules in the U.S. should be laxed across the board with some sort of sunset clause of about 10 years.
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windsong
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13. June 2007 @ 10:32 |
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Originally posted by edsrouter:
You, the consumer, are the only source of revenue for the game developer and unless you want a Pepsi commercial to play just after you beat the big boss.
They've already starting doing this. Piracy has no connection with the infinite greed of corporations.
History of Nintendo's Greed:
http://www.gamingw.net/articles/74
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13. June 2007 @ 10:44 |
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Originally posted by Dela:
...you "must" have the right to use the powerful hardware under the hood the way you see it.
Actually, I think there is a limit because pirating can be a way you see fit but you shouldn't.
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I'm sick of all of this license agreement nonsense and the spin that tries to set it into your head that your own bloody console is not yours to do with as you like.
Again, I do think that there should be limits such as pirating.
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Personally, I hope to see PS3 opened up to homebrew, might take a little time but can you imagine the motivation to develop software for something quite powerful.
Agreed. Provided you aren't breaking (real) laws, you should be able to use YOUR console that you paid a minimum of $500 for the way YOU see fit.
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Back on point though, it's very democratically unhealthy (if you can accept that as a description) for companies like this to shape law and enforce stupid limits on consumers. Your console will be hacked... now GET OVER IT!
Personally, I think they are in denial. They aren't excepting the fact that just like the PSP, with at least a semi-powerful system running on an OS, someone with hack it to use it the way they want, and restricting that will only turn away customers.
-EDIT ...or make the customers have a strong will to hack it just to stick it to Sony.
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13. June 2007 @ 11:57 |
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Oh i dont endorse pirating at all, I own 360 ands I have know-how to flash firmware and acquire games fast..... but instead i have chosen to buy my games for it. I guess it becomes a bit different wqhen you talk about older consoles with seriously overpriced games or games you simply "cant get" at target or gamestop anymore.
I have a modded PS2 and my biggest use for it is "SMS" to play XviD video from my HDD (sorta obsolete now that TVersity is here for my 360). I also have custom firmware for my PSP mainly because I like to check out the old PS1 games that have been gathering dust here since the 90s (great fun!).
I agree that pirating is bad and that security measures are put in place to stop it for good reason, but come on, spewing out legal threats to people who paid $599 for a console isn't such a great idea I believe personally. I don't think it should be a punishable offense to merely modify your console.
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13. June 2007 @ 12:39 |
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I think they all have gone off the deep end with the threats, and false promises about being hack proof. Its stupid to make get all bent out of shape. I know people who have modded their systems for all what homebrew and other nice functions you get from doing so. I also know people buy mod their system and buy the games to back them up and so forth. To Mod a system should not get them all worked up but if you used their system as a means to hack them or their servers or to due some so called terrorist act as they seem act like modding is. Lastly they should welcome it to honestly because that could potentially bring more sales to their system right now. You know how many people would brick or flat out kill their system trying to mod which could bring more sales if the homebrew, and other functions people come up with are worth it.
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13. June 2007 @ 12:44 |
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After reports surfaced that hackers had cracked the PlayStation 3's anti-piracy software, Sony America has declared that it will "aggressively pursue" anyone who is caught doing so. They have said the activity will merit legal action if caught.
Yeah, and we all know how well that worked on psp...
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13. June 2007 @ 13:25 |
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It did work quite well with the PSP. They made this software update that some no-smart people put on thier PSP, and it seriously limits the hacking you can do! They might do that for the PS3
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13. June 2007 @ 13:34 |
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Originally posted by Dela:
...but come on, spewing out legal threats to people who paid $599 for a console isn't such a great idea... I don't think it should be a punishable offense to merely modify your console.
Agreed. This is just a step to far that will probably come back to bite them in the *.
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13. June 2007 @ 15:47 |
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LOL.. SONY was so proud... "oh the ps3 will not able to be cracked.." Blah blah blah, Now they are thinking "oh sh*t" I guess we need to address "pirating and hacking but it still cant be cracked, but just in case.. but believe me it cant.. oh sh*t!!! we are cracked"
Has anyone figured out that with the increase in Technology comes the risk of hacking,pirating and cracking. Sorry, its a losing battle and the consumer isnt the one on the losing end. I do condone "piracy" and I really dont care what anyones opinion is about being against it nor do I care what you think about me. You may be the morally honest one and pay for everything but if I can get a break I WILL take it. If the "companies" do not are so worried about piracy, get out of the business. Then you dont have to worry about products being hacked,cracked or pirated.
Oh by the way... Al Gore invented hacking......just jokn
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13. June 2007 @ 17:36 |
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Originally posted by Jlhfit:
Oh by the way... Al Gore invented hacking...
The lack of grammer through the rest of the post made it hard to understand but that right there was funny!
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13. June 2007 @ 17:44 |
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Im sorry for the grammer we cant not be all be so well spoken.. Wait is that a double negative and a run-on?
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13. June 2007 @ 17:47 |
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Yes, I believe that was a double negative and a run-on sentence.
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13. June 2007 @ 19:59 |
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Their being so strong fisted about this because their only source of income from the PS3 is it's software sales. They'd probably continue to lose millions and millions of dollars if they let piracy get out of hand...although I still believe that Blu-ray media is too expensive and the Blu-ray burner needed. So I think Sony doesn't really have much to worry about. The PS3 games are like 20GB+ so it's definately going to be hard to pirate over the internet. So Sony should look at those facts and realize they have nother major to worry about, other than the lost of so many exclusive.
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13. June 2007 @ 23:49 |
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i read that article about nintendo. damn they were evil. i see alot of their tactics in play with the wii right now.
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13. June 2007 @ 23:54 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Their being so strong fisted about this because their only source of income from the PS3 is it's software sales. They'd probably continue to lose millions and millions of dollars if they let piracy get out of hand...although I still believe that Blu-ray media is too expensive and the Blu-ray burner needed. So I think Sony doesn't really have much to worry about. The PS3 games are like 20GB+ so it's definately going to be hard to pirate over the internet. So Sony should look at those facts and realize they have nother major to worry about, other than the lost of so many exclusive.
Actually, people won't need a Blu-ray burner and disks if they (PS3 hackers) can get an ISO loader working. However, they would need a big hard drive to store all of those games considering the size of them.
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