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ian_ng
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17. July 2007 @ 17:09 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by ian_ng:
My Wii is bricked by Mario Strikers. Since then, I've tried Pokemon(USA) and DK Taru Jet Race(J) to no avail.
Why are you trying to use 2 different region disc to unbrick your Wii system?
You said your Wii was bricked by Mario Strikers. So I would assume your Wii is either U(North America) or J(Japanese). Which region do you have?
Yeah I was banging my head on the wall. I have a Jap Wii. I saw your post that stated BBA would unbrick it but I couldn't find the J or U version of it. Then Pokemon came. I had waited for this for a long time cos I had the Jap version of pokemon but can't make head or tail of it. (Can't read Jap) So I just popped it in and realise it carried an update. I was praying that being a U update it could at least undo the E update but nay. THEN I read your post that mentioned DK Taro Jet Race being latest fw for jap Wii. Off I went and grab one even though common sense told me it prolly won't work already but heck just give it a go. OK lesson learnt. Will need to wait again for next boat. Anyway DonkeyKong was an excellent exhaustive workout to vent my frustrations.
BTW I greatly appreciate your guidance and post in this forum. To me you are guru. Thank you.
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17. July 2007 @ 18:10 |
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Originally posted by ian_ng:
Yeah I was banging my head on the wall. I have a Jap Wii. I saw your post that stated BBA would unbrick it but I couldn't find the J or U version of it. Then Pokemon came. I had waited for this for a long time cos I had the Jap version of pokemon but can't make head or tail of it. (Can't read Jap) So I just popped it in and realise it carried an update. I was praying that being a U update it could at least undo the E update but nay.
Changing the firmware from E to U would not have unbricked your Japanese system. It would either keep your Wii semi-bricked or there could have been a possibility that the U update could have completely bricked it.
Just to make it clear you do not want to use a NTSC(U)=USA(North American) game disc to update your Japanese Wii system. A NTSC(U)=USA(North American) game disc can brick your Japanese Wii system just as easy as a PAL E=European version can.
The only game disc you should use to update is a J=Japanese Game Disc.
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ian_ng
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17. July 2007 @ 18:54 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
The only game disc you should use to update is a J=Japanese Game Disc.
Another wise advice. TQ
In other words I should not put another new U discs for fear of an update (full brick). Wait for next J update to hopefully restore settings. Then get it connected to the web and keep it updated properly.
I wish someone can come out with a better solution like reflashing from a boot device other than a game disc or even a homebrew "gamedisc" that carries a reflashing program. Wishful thinking?
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17. July 2007 @ 18:58 |
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This is a response to the Guru comment, I am far from a Guru.
I owe all my knowledge to other past members that answered threads that have been asked.
Anyone could be a so called Guru if they just took the time to read the over whelming past threads that have been created in this forum. Everything I know is from past threads that have been created and answered by others.
It is just a pity others don't use all that past knowledge to figure out that the answer to your question more then likley has been answered already in a past thread.
Instead a big majority of the newer members just want an answer and want to get that answer in the less amount of effort it will take.
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kagebomb
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18. July 2007 @ 00:51 |
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i'm starting to hate nintendo because of this Region and Brick situation, does the other consoles have these too? maybe i'll just switch to XBox360 or PS3 if they don't have these problems..
Try and you might, don't and you won't!
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halwalker
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18. July 2007 @ 04:18 |
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i was pretty scared of playing a backed up Paper Mario on my Pal Wii and couldn't find any confirmation that it owuldn't try to update my Wii.
I got drunk last night and figured I'd just go for it though. Here's hwo it turned out.
Pal Wii - modded with Wiikey
Paper Mario - patched with BrickBlocker
Worked perfectly.
Ace.
What I wanted to know whether or not it would ask me to perform the update or not. With brickblocker, it doesn't. Just jumps straight into the game. If you get asked to update, it's not blocked.
Sorry if this seems elementary stuff but I wasn't sure before I just tried it.
Hope this helps anyone else in my situation.
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dragontd
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18. July 2007 @ 05:28 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Below is a guide to follow when playing a Game Disc that has a firmware update on it.
NTSC(U) Game + NTSC(U) Wii = No chance of a region brick
So to confirm..
If I have a NTSC(u)wii.. I can back up all the NTSC(U) games and never have to worry about bricking my Wii system correct....
and if so.. it doesn't matter if I update or not with NTSC(U)games back-up or original with my NTSC(U) Wii system.. CORRECT?
that way I will just stay away from all other region.
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kevwolf69
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18. July 2007 @ 06:34 |
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hi there all.. havn't even got a wii yet but in the last couple of days bin doing my home work on the details of back-up copies and the like.... well would i be right in saying that if i have an iso lets say ntsc i then patch it with wiifree and then also patch it with brickblocker the resulting burnt disc on decent media should run fine in a pal machine....that has a wiikey installed???? or does the wiikey make my use of wiifree redundant..if u know waht i mean...
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18. July 2007 @ 08:26 |
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@kevwolf69
If you have a Wiikey and the region override option is turned ON then you don't need to use a region patcher (wiifree) to patch the game.
But you still should use Wii Brick Blocker and update your Wii to latest Wii firmware available.
Originally posted by kagebomb:
i'm starting to hate nintendo because of this Region and Brick situation, does the other consoles have these too? maybe i'll just switch to XBox360 or PS3 if they don't have these problems..
It isn't like Nintendo has done this to stop users from using Modchips. Anyway if you region brick your Wii the only person you should hate is yourself. All you have to do is patch the game disc with Wii Brick Blocker and make sure your Wii is updated with the newest firmware and your pretty much 100% protected from a region brick issue.
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kevwolf69
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18. July 2007 @ 08:55 |
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hhmmm!! thanks for the info.. now here comes a really,,, no i mean a rreeaaallllyyy stoopid question... how do u keep your wii updates up to date??? u r allowed to give me a virtual slap if u feel the need!!
thanx in advance
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dragontd
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18. July 2007 @ 09:17 |
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Larry,
please confirm for me..
if I have a NTSC(u)wii.. I can back up all the NTSC(U) games and never have to worry about bricking my Wii system correct....
and if so.. it doesn't matter if I update or not with NTSC(U)games back-up or original with my NTSC(U) Wii system.. CORRECT?
please.. thank you
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18. July 2007 @ 09:39 |
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I will answer for Larry:
yes, if your wii is ntsc(u) and u only make ntsc(u) backups there is no chance of bricking your wii, even if you do the updates from the disc.
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dragontd
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18. July 2007 @ 10:36 |
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Originally posted by brucedlx:
I will answer for Larry:
yes, if your wii is ntsc(u) and u only make ntsc(u) backups there is no chance of bricking your wii, even if you do the updates from the disc.
thank you thank you soo much.. and I can install my wiikey and worry about my kids playing the wrong games. thx again
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18. July 2007 @ 11:55 |
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Keep the Wii updated by going into your Wii settings and the update option should be on the 3rd page.
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Zmiller
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18. July 2007 @ 17:46 |
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So I just learned about bricking from this forum and I have a couple of questions that should ease many other peoples questions.
1) Can a system be bricked or semi-bricked if you only play games from your region? i.e Can a north american wii be bricked or semi-bricked from a back-up whose region is North America?
2) Would it just be a good idea to take your wii offline completely if you have a modchip and want to play back-up games?
3)What is the general opinion of these new anti-bricking firmware to include in games you burn? Does anyone have any experience with these that can confirm or deny their usefulness?
I think this could finally stop the re-asking and re-answering of these the most important questions about bricking.
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18. July 2007 @ 20:05 |
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1) Can a system be bricked or semi-bricked if you only play games from your region? i.e Can a north american wii be bricked or semi-bricked from a back-up whose region is North America?
Are you closing your frickin eyes when reading the guide because this questions is covered in the guide on the first page of this thread. Plus others have asked this same question. How many times will this have to be F##KIN answered?
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2) Would it just be a good idea to take your wii offline completely if you have a modchip and want to play back-up games?
It doesn't matter if you have your modded Wii connected to the Internet. You can play online games with a Modded Wii and a backup of the game with no issues.
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3)What is the general opinion of these new anti-bricking firmware to include in games you burn? Does anyone have any experience with these that can confirm or deny their usefulness?
What is an Anti-Bricking firmware? Have never heard of this.
If your talking about Wii Brick Blocker then this is a patcher program not a firmware. It changes the string on the Wii game disc to disable the update that it has included on it.
Again if you would read the guide you would know this as well and not call it an anti-bricking firmware.
You might think I am being an A$$ and maybe I am but why the hell did I make a guide on this if you and others don't frickin read it?
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evenja
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19. July 2007 @ 03:42 |
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Just want 2 add that you should confirm that your ISO is actually your region. By using Wii Brick Blocker patcher you can check the version region of the image before you burn it. You won't need to do this if its a backup of your own original,but in some cases you "borrow" or "buy" a Wii iso. Then you should check it 1st to be 100%. If you already got a disk with the image burned already, u'll need to raw dump it first to check it.(correct me if there are any other ways to check a region version of a burned iso.)
I'm stuck with a semi-bricked jpn wii,still waiting for an update.
any one tried Momotaro Dentetsu 16 or Jikkyo- Powerful Pro Yakyu??
Thank U !!
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19. July 2007 @ 07:58 |
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Originally posted by evenja:
If you already got a disk with the image burned already, u'll need to raw dump it first to check it
You are correct in the sense of needing the ISO image to check the region of the disc with Wii Brick Blocker. But you can't rawdump an already backed up game disc.
You will need to use ImgBurn to do an ISO/READ of the backup disc.
Or
Use Nero and do an IMAGE backup of the backup game disc. If you do it with Nero more then likley you will need to rename the extension to .ISO if Nero uses its own image extension.
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kevwolf69
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19. July 2007 @ 12:06 |
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hi everyone!!
ok so bin checking out some forums/install guides for kiikey... the question is d2c chipset.. what the f**K??? some forums and guides are actualy telling people to take a modelers grinder to their wii in brief the pcb has bin modified to "hide" for want of a better word, the pads/legs of the chip needed to attatch the mod chip!!! its aparentley a great idea to take a modelers grinding tool to the top of the chip to expose the now hidden traks and solder onto these!!! sort of like soldering an eye lash onto a spiders leg while it does a jig!!!! i have a certain level of competencey in soldering but yoda on a good day would find it hard not to totaly bolox up their pride and joy!!!!! so until wiikey come up with better solution looks like yours truly wil be building a stock of backed up games just in case!! has anyone got any inside info on the d2c situation....thanx in advance
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19. July 2007 @ 13:43 |
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Originally posted by kevwolf69:
hi everyone!!
ok so bin checking out some forums/install guides for kiikey... the question is d2c chipset.. what the f**K??? some forums and guides are actualy telling people to take a modelers grinder to their wii in brief the pcb has bin modified to "hide" for want of a better word, the pads/legs of the chip needed to attatch the mod chip!!! its aparentley a great idea to take a modelers grinding tool to the top of the chip to expose the now hidden traks and solder onto these!!! sort of like soldering an eye lash onto a spiders leg while it does a jig!!!! i have a certain level of competencey in soldering but yoda on a good day would find it hard not to totaly bolox up their pride and joy!!!!! so until wiikey come up with better solution looks like yours truly wil be building a stock of backed up games just in case!! has anyone got any inside info on the d2c situation....thanx in advance
As far as I know there is no Modchip out there that is compatible with a D2C chipset.
I think your talking about the D2B chipsets that have the legs cut from the chipset. You will need to do some modification to the chipset in order to solder to them.
Below is a link that talks more about these types of modifications and some have given images...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/517095
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Cloudzer0
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23. July 2007 @ 09:05 |
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Hello all i have a ntsc u wii and have unfortunatley gotten my wii fullt bricked. i inserted a PAL mario strikers and the rest was history.
AND the question still being is there a way to fix an unbricked wii?
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kevwolf69
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24. July 2007 @ 04:24 |
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larry... you must be banging your hed against a brick wall when u read how people are still bricking their machines!!!!! to all owners if u are going to attempt to use out of region games on your machine then it is imperitve that u first run brick blocker on the iso file first to take out any region sensitive updates (ie the data that will brick your machine if you leave it in), all brick blocker does is read the iso and transplants the update partision with a blank one hey presto your out of regon game will now play in your console without killing it!!!! just google brick blocker its free!!!! as of yet there is no fix yet for bricked machines, maybe someone can confirm this... again read larrys guide at the start of this thread!!!!! myself i am still waiting for a mod chip that can deal with d2c.....
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24. July 2007 @ 06:59 |
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Originally posted by Cloudzer0:
AND the question still being is there a way to fix an unbricked wii?
I assume you mean bricked..
The answer is no, not yet. You're screwed for now.
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24. July 2007 @ 08:32 |
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As Mark187 has said and also has been said multiple other times before his post...
Originally posted by Mark187:
Originally posted by Cloudzer0:
AND the question still being is there a way to fix an unbricked wii?
I assume you mean bricked..
The answer is no, not yet. You're screwed for now.
I am sure when there becomes a way to fix a complete bricked Wii system that the information will take over the Wii forums like wildfire.
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chamonofx
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25. July 2007 @ 03:13 |
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larrylje thanks so much for the thread. It is VERY EASY to understand.
A big f**k you to all the idiots that cannot understand it and ask the same questions already answered on the initial post. Can't believe this keeps happening. Gotta flame the b**tards to avoid GOOD threads like this be filled with crappy and useless comments. People get in and try to read it completely but CANT because it is full of retarded posts. First read and if it's not already responded then google it, then if google doesnt help, google it again with different words, then if nothing yet, ask.
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