Originally posted by steimy:

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3 most sold games for any console were Halo, GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas, all of which you can play on a 360......Sony has been at the top of the console kingdom for 10 years now so this is their first bitter taste o being on the losing end.

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in reference to MS's Peter Moore's comments on the PS3's future and current price drop...

Funny how he doesn't even touch the "value" of said price point. For $20 more than MS's "Elite" you get High definition playability, Wifi, FREE online, a multiple card reader and so on but most of all is RELIABILITY (a true VALUE) something MS cannot say....

People seem to forget that MS's track record shows they think in "short term" i.e. the Xbox came out after the PS2 and left before the PS2 (especially since it is still thriving) that (at least to me) does not show having the customer in mind/best interest. So while people consistently try to say that Sony has failed yada yada yada, this or that they couldn't be farther from the truth. It is just a matter of time & patience.

And there is more to it than that. See people want to throw out #'s all the time saying the 360 has "won" this and that, but if you look at the numbers it is not possible. The 360 has ONLY about 12 million in sales currently and if you compare that to the original Xbox customer base it doesn't look good....the original only sold through 25 million.

Now I am no financial analyst or trends analyst but I can see a pattern or the "writing on the wall" and it doesn't look too optimistic in the long run for MS's 360's customers (think about how they are with Windows and then you will also see even more openly).

Now getting back to the future of the PS3...If you are a company who makes games then it boils down to the money at the end of the day and in order to make money you need to put your product on a system that can provide the best return i.e. greater chance of sales by choosing who has the better customer base. Okay, with that said right now the 360 would be a better chance at a better return BUT they don't have the penetration that Sony has with it's previous consoles (PS1 & PS2) so in the long run they won't have as many customers plus one could even go as far to say that "said company X" could stick with PS2 and undoubtedly make great returns since the PS2 has an installed base of over 115 million but we are talking about "Next Gen" so I will stick to that.

Now there are more factors & information that needs to be looked at say the Wii's popularity etc. but you wanted to know if your money would be wisely spent and you would get the best value for your investment on a PS3. I myself have 2 (20 gb & 60 gb), a Wii, a 360 as well as many other consoles but out of them all I use the PS3 most; since in my opinion & for MY tastes it is more refined and mature. Plus with titles like MGS4, Haze, Killzone and my favorite series Gran Turismo on the way I am quite happy with my investment.

I kinda rushed some aspects of this reply and am sure some people will have their own views and "rebuttals" but as a customer I wouldn't want to have another Dreamcast on my hands in the 360 as the DC was a GREAT system and hopefully MS can fix their issues with their hardware to warrant a person to invest their money in them. Especially with the great lineup of games the currently have as well as are coming soon.

Look, honestly it is not about what system is "better" since ALL of them are about fun. So if you want the best experience try to get them all, I understand that is expensive but you don't have to get them at one time and the games will always be there when you finally get whatever console. Good luck with your decision!

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Originally posted by steimy:

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PS3 losing the console wars is a present day term. Could they catch up? sure, if they can come out with a really good game lineup that drives customers to buy it. The price drop is a nice start because the launch price was a real killer. Not many people wanted to pay that much for a system.
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Originally posted by CrisKahn2:

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I personally dont like G4...I think they are bias.

They praise everything there is Nintendo and MS and crap on Sony just because everyone els does. If I wanted that I would just read EGM.

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Originally posted by CrisKahn2:

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To think that Sony did good with the price cut...

I read that there will be no more 60 gig PS3 shipping to the US after the price drop. Instead, Sony will release an 80 gig PS3 with one free game (motor storm) for the original $599 price. And that the 80 gig will have horrible backwards compatibility.

So much for the price drop...

I guess If you dont have a PS3 now is the best time to get one before the 60 gig runs out.

Damn

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Originally posted by CrisKahn2:

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And that the 80 gig will have horrible backwards compatibility

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Originally posted by Oner:

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Originally posted by CrisKahn2:

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And that the 80 gig will have horrible backwards compatibility

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Even with the PS3's software solution for BC it is still a hell of a lot then the 360's backwards compatibility...

Steimy as for your 360 & it's addons, most people would have the same setup as you so it is an even more expensive console and was the reasoning for my reply to Unknown4. Also if your whole house is Wifi then you still need to buy a $100 addon to be able to use it (not a necessity but still an additional price to factor) so that is another added feature in the PS3. As for the HD movies...I agree it's not for everyone true, but I myself (and sure many others) didn't buy an HDTV to not use it at it fullest capabilities, plus an upscaled vs natural HD scene is not the same. Lastly even if Live is a bit cheaper one way or the other it still affects the bottom line....so in reality, people cannot actually say the 360 is cheaper.

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Not sure what the PS3 free system offers but Xbox Live Marketplace is also a factor to consider. There is quite a bit of content there like game demos (free), game updates (some free), arcade games, full game downloads, movies & TV in standard and HD format, themes, and more. Plus integration with your MSN Messenger. Along with streaming media from your PC.

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Originally posted by zegame:

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In regard to the whole exclusives arguement, a couple of years form now there will be no such thing as exclusives and here is why:

1) Games are getting higher in quality and therefore are costing more so it only makes sense from a buissness stand point to port games to every console.

2) Due to the high cost of making games alot of third party developers are going to go out of buissness and as most of you know third party developers are the ones who go out on a limb and create those whacky games that turn out to be the best.

3) To stay safe alot of game developers are going to chase stream line ideas like shooters and rpgs and no one will be making creative games like Katamari or Okami along with many more creative games that turn out to be a big hit.

4) This will making the gaming industry a cut-throat industry where if one developer makes a game that no one buys they are automatically out of buissness.

This vicous cycle could rach the point where there is no longer a console war, because one company will monopoly the gaming industry and therefore there will only be one console with competion.

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Originally posted by zegame:

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It's going to happen, it's just a matter of time. The cost of making games is skyrocketing due to the higher quality of graphics and players wanting a more realistic feel to thier games. Even if the company wants to stay exclusive it will be forced to port just to break even.

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