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Microsoft sued over scratched Xbox 360 discs

article published on 10 July, 2007

Yesterday, an unhappy Xbox 360 user filed a class action lawsuit against Microsoft over damage done to his discs by the console. What does the gamer want out of the lawsuit? All his games replaced or "equal monetary compensation" for them. The gamer claims that the laser in the Xbox 360 caused permanent damage to his retail bought games and that the attached documentation that comes with ... [ read the full article ]

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gozilla
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10. July 2007 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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the attached documentation that comes with the system does not mention anything or advise against moving the console while it is turned on.
if your disc's where damaged because you moved the console while the game was in it, then your an idiot and should be shot. as far as i can remember, ever CD-based console had a warning not to move the unit while it was operational.

if however this happens because of cheap DVD drives used by Microsoft, then they should be shot.
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10. July 2007 @ 18:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i might be wrong, but didn't m$ already start a program to replace scratched discs like this? does anyone else remember this?
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10. July 2007 @ 19:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if you ask me i think that MS and sony are being treated by the media way worse than they should. cuz if you think about it ms wanted to get the product as cheap and fast as possible to the market and by doing so they had to cut a few corners to make a $400 console have BETTER graphics than a good pc that costs over twice as much 2 years after launch. and as for sony they just wanted to push the envelope with graphics capabilities beyond what most gaming pc's can do today or even in a year yet they are being constantly harassed about the price even when they are losing money
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10. July 2007 @ 19:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's what happens when you cut parts to save money... especially in a disc-drive!
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10. July 2007 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had a few disc's when i first got my 360 that got destroyed because of a slight grazing on my first 360. I think during that time i slightly touched it and it put that deep ring around the games. So if that guy/girl choose to keep doing that they probably should be shot. Good thing for me the dude i got my system and games from hooked me up on 3 games that the laser screwed up. All i can say was lesson learned dont touch the 360 while its on even if its nothing but a slight touch or grazing or whatever.
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10. July 2007 @ 19:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spydah:
I had a few disc's when i first got my 360 that got destroyed because of a slight grazing on my first 360. I think during that time i slightly touched it and it put that deep ring around the games. So if that guy/girl choose to keep doing that they probably should be shot. Good thing for me the dude i got my system and games from hooked me up on 3 games that the laser screwed up. All i can say was lesson learned dont touch the 360 while its on even if its nothing but a slight touch or grazing or whatever.
That's kind of sad... don't you think? You pay like $500.00 for a console with games that will burn your money if you accidently bump into it and so on. I'd like to see it last a road trip :P

But why would you want to put that in your car? I would be like a mini heat wave. 'Would be nice for those cold winters though :)
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10. July 2007 @ 20:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if he/she wins

i'm going to do this

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10. July 2007 @ 20:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can you say r-e-t-a-r-d? He should be thrown in jail just for wasting my time reading this. I am a teacher==> Xbox + Idiot = Scratched Discs
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10. July 2007 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah it did suck but since they swapped my last system i havent had that issue. I have gone as far as turning it on its side a few times with old dvd in the drive to see how bad it is now and i didnt scar it at all. But if you touch where the disc is spinning then its a rap on that disc.
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11. July 2007 @ 02:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cheezy_P:
i might be wrong, but didn't m$ already start a program to replace scratched discs like this? does anyone else remember this?

Yes they do, but as its M$ they charge $20 per game that they replace.

Wouldnt this guy be better off to just use the money he would otherwise be using on all sorts of legal fees, and replace his games. Or hell he could even just take his games down to the local video store and get them resurfaced for less than $5 each, and send his console in to MS and get it "fixed".
I still however believe that MS should replace any games their poorly made console has screwed up, but as its MS its not bloody likely.
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11. July 2007 @ 04:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cheezy_P:
i might be wrong, but didn't m$ already start a program to replace scratched discs like this? does anyone else remember this?
Yeh they did, u go on their site, its easy to find, u click on it i think it takes like 7 days before u get ur knew game, or soemthing M$ are doing things about it. Once again i have a launch consol, and i've not got this problem. I honestly think soem people are doing stupid thigns with their consols and not looking after them correctly! because as far as i am concered with the launch consols having somethign stupid liek over 90% returned, and my one is still going ppl just don't no how to look after theirs.

Note: i've played mine 12 hours striagth with GoW (mosts CPU and GPU heavist game out)
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11. July 2007 @ 05:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i had my xbox since january and it has done none of the scratching crap. i dont move mysystem around. it just sits vertical the whole time, it has over spun a disc a few times. but no scratches.

i had my system warrantied and i believe they replaced the drive anyway. cause now it seems to work better. anyway

this guy is an idiot if he thinks he'll win this class action against microsoft.
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11. July 2007 @ 06:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man this happen to me and i never moved my 360 with the disc in it plus it did it to 3 games all has a deep ring around them keep in mind i paid 59.00 dollars a gm. MS told me that the games were not cover and it is nothing they could do. MAN SUE THEM MONEY HUNGRY FUCKERS!!!!!!
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11. July 2007 @ 08:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
....first off MS should offer free disc replacement to all preium Live users for live users theirs a 5$ fee,if you never setup live a 10$ fee would be appropate anythign more and and its blanat profiting off scratched games.
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11. July 2007 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
....first off MS should offer free disc replacement to all preium Live users for live users theirs a 5$ fee,if you never setup live a 10$ fee would be appropate anythign more and and its blanat profiting off scratched games.
That is a good idea. Buying insurance for a game. They are expensive, and due to copywrite laws, most stores, if not all, will not take back any media (game, CD, DVD, etc....). I do believe that I was able to replace a damaged game once at Best Buy. But that was a couple of years ago.
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11. July 2007 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
....first off MS should offer free disc replacement to all preium Live users for live users theirs a 5$ fee,if you never setup live a 10$ fee would be appropate anythign more and and its blanat profiting off scratched games.
That is a good idea. Buying insurance for a game. They are expensive, and due to copywrite laws, most stores, if not all, will not take back any media (game, CD, DVD, etc....). I do believe that I was able to replace a damaged game once at Best Buy. But that was a couple of years ago.
You can exchange a game within the stores limited warranty period but tis mostly foolish,you can resale a used game to EB/GS for its "retail value" but they will not touch computer games over piracy/serial concerns,retail is to blame and the industry is to blame for changing to a no return rule the indutry makes bad games and leaves retail to pick up the pieces leaving retial to be creative in their warranty practices.

Its stupid and gives me a headache,they should implement a user data base,you sing up for it and you may exchange up to 3 games a month for another game of its "current retail price" hell even implement a subscription setup, 10 a year gets you a extra 3 returns,25 gets you 10 exchanges a month at a +25% of "current retail price",also on the first level of subscription you may exchange PC games if you have a lot of key/serial issues with 1 persons game they are denied PC exchanges and could lose a years worth of subscription time.
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11. July 2007 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
honestly who in their right mind would move something like that when it is turned on, common sense dictates not to move something like. Kind of like common sense dictates not ot shake a baby, but their aren't any instruction manuals about that either.
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11. July 2007 @ 10:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
to all you guys who thinks this guy is a quote "idiot" + "retard"
then you are very sad! whats it got to do with you if this guy wants to sue microsoft?
imo i think his right, if i bought a shitty console that wrecked my hard earned money then i would be pretty pissed too!!!!
just because all you microsoft fanboys are too proud to admit that the console of their dreams is a load of b*@:&!@s then go and buy the same game again at your own expense then u my friends are the idiots!!!!!!!!!
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11. July 2007 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by thekingo7:
honestly who in their right mind would move something like that when it is turned on, common sense dictates not to move something like. Kind of like common sense dictates not ot shake a baby, but their aren't any instruction manuals about that either.
and common sense/fact says this has not happen on a large scale with consoles before...
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11. July 2007 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by thekingo7:
Kind of like common sense dictates not ot shake a baby, but their aren't any instruction manuals about that either.
Obviously you've never been in a maternity bookstore.
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11. July 2007 @ 19:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm just glad I invested in a dual core and a 500gig drive..all for less than half of what an xbox360 costs (already had a radeon x1900)..that blows the Xflop out of the water!!

Not to mention all the superior legacy rpgs that go along with it..Baldur's Gate, Planescape, Ultima, Fallout.

Xbox360 is for amateurs.
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Originally posted by iwillgetu:
to all you guys who thinks this guy is a quote "idiot" + "retard"
then you are very sad! whats it got to do with you if this guy wants to sue microsoft?
imo i think his right, if i bought a shitty console that wrecked my hard earned money then i would be pretty pissed too!!!!
just because all you microsoft fanboys are too proud to admit that the console of their dreams is a load of b*@:&!@s then go and buy the same game again at your own expense then u my friends are the idiots!!!!!!!!!
I agree. I don't have any next gen. consoles, but I've played 360 almost everyday at my friends house for like 2 hours straight, and I still don't want one. They're too cheap! I can understand saving a doller or 2 on production cost, but not like $50! I'm suprised his system never overheats. It gets so hot. It turns his room into a sauna. It's not a release date either. And all his games are scratched, yet he takes so good care of it. And then what's the point of paying for "Live" if all your gonna do is play with a bunch of immature racists?

Sure every system has their faults, but that has way too many.
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11. July 2007 @ 20:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by windsong:
I'm just glad I invested in a dual core and a 500gig drive..all for less than half of what an xbox360 costs (already had a radeon x1900)..that blows the Xflop out of the water!!

Not to mention all the superior legacy rpgs that go along with it..Baldur's Gate, Planescape, Ultima, Fallout.

Xbox360 is for amateurs.

......any one system is for "amateurs" and fanboys.....
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11. July 2007 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Systems are for people who can't afford building their own super-computer, like me!


I don't even know how, but soon I will learn, and toss this iMac, in like 10 years though. I didn't spend 2Gs to use it only for a couple years!
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11. July 2007 @ 20:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by vinny13:
Systems are for people who can't afford building their own super-computer, like me!


I don't even know how, but soon I will learn, and toss this iMac, in like 10 years though. I didn't spend 2Gs to use it only for a couple years!
err I meant console,your not a gamer if you just have 1,games are a bit more than just they consoles they are on,for PCs I build around the mobo or CPU doing that you can make it run basic to medium gaming for 3-5 years much like the life span of a console, I plan on upgrading next year but for now my 3700+,1GB of ramm and 7600 AGP will do me fine for PC gaming,I might hold off till mid 09 so I can get a solid high end mobo,it might be 200$ but its the foundation of a PC.

Since PCs are..mmm fickle I try not and spend more than 300 a "part",the same can be said for game systems,the PS3 is a bloated beast and because of it devs are leaving,on the other hand the 360 is incomplete but should be fixed in a year,the PS3 will drop more in price next year,they have lil choice in it,in fact it might be to late, you cant really go wrong with the WII even tho I feel the controls are tacted on in some cases.
 
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