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How to begin compiling Jpegs and picture files so that I can burn them adn watch them on my HD DLP T
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Tribeca
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13. August 2007 @ 08:42 |
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Yesterday, I thought I was so cool! I bought a LG DVD burner. The burner came with Nero 7 Essentials and with Cyberlink DVD.... by the
end of the day, I was not so cool. I greated a slideshow using the software provided with the burner, but I mmust have burned it to something weird. When I put it in my dvd player, the player didn't recognize the disk.
In previous times, I have used a program called XAT [xat.com]and
have been successful. I'm not sure where to go or who to write to
so that I can better understand what to do. Can anyone provide
advise or point me in a direction where I can read about this?
Thanks.
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14. August 2007 @ 10:37 |
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Does the DVD play ok in your PC?
It's important not to burn DVD's at too high a rate - 4x is is good -use high quality media like 'Verbatim' or anything that says 'Made in Japan' on the package.
Make sure that the media type (DVD+R or DVD-R) are acceptable to the standalone player.
When I make a slide-show, after making sure it works at the simulation stage, I save the output to the hard disk - then save the project, just in case..
You can use your media player on the PC to test the output and know that the files are good then burn the disk..
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Tribeca
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14. August 2007 @ 11:51 |
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That's good to know. curently I am using HP disks, but I am using an LG E40L external dvd device. I think to automatically burned to 6x.
The disk played in my PC, but not the dvd player that is connected to my TV.
I just purchased Pinnacle's Sudio Ultimate Version 11, but I will not be receiving for a couple of weeks, due to shipping. I have been trying to use the softwre that came with the dvd device, but it is a bit cumbersome. The device cam with Nero 7 Essentials and with Cyberlink DVD 5.
Neither of these 2 products have great instructions - it is absolutely frustrating trying to use the software.
Do you have any thoughts as to what would be the best way to proceed?
Thanks for your help, /a.
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14. August 2007 @ 13:58 |
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Run Nero StartSmart and choose 'Tools', pick 'CD-DVD Drive Speed' and 'Scan Disk', to see if it picks up any read errors on the burned DVD.
If it does, then you perhaps know why it won't play on the standalone unit.
Many times a borderline disk will play ok on the pc, but not on another player.
If the disk scans ok, verify that your standalone player accepts the disk type.
As to the burn speed, it is generally the burning program which selects the burning speed (within the range that the disks and drive will allow.
Insert the blank DVD before starting Nero, at the point, immediately before clicking 'Burn'.
Click 'Burn to' and choose the burner, then 'Recorder Settings' to set the speed.
at the end of a burn, before exiting, Nero will ask if you wish to create a log of the session.
Save it to file and it can be referred to if problems arise.
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15. August 2007 @ 05:42 |
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Just a guess, make sure you finalize the disc so it will play on your stand alone.
We never stop learning.
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15. August 2007 @ 09:23 |
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Hmmm..... being that I am unfamiliar with Nero, is there a "magic" pull-down menu where I can find the finalize tools?
Thanks, /a.
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oldslow
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16. August 2007 @ 03:46 |
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The magic menu is in the little control box that opens when nero is first opened. on the right there is a catagory called extras. control drive speed should be on the top right hand side. system info is also kind of intersting. I buck the trend about 4x burning as i have good luck w/16x unless i have crappy disks then i try 12x. I also always write to the hdd in addition to the disk. At 16x using dvd shrink (if it has already encoded the video)i can re encode and reburn before 4x has finished the first time.
for your original prob however on the burn screen in nero just before you start the burn process there are some options somwhere to change the book type of the dvd to -rom theen it should work in anything. (i have done this but it has been awhile and the only thing that works full time is my forgetter) Since you have a working copy of your product try dvd shrink. there is a good dvd shrink guide on this site (and it's own forum) Shrink is faster and easier than nero and after you hit the big backup button on the toolbar there are pulldowns where you may choose drive speed, BOOK TYPE-ROM, etc.
good luck to you.
P.S. only standalone players finalize, thats why you can't find something that ain't there.
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16. August 2007 @ 03:57 |
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DvD Shrink is new to me, I will need to read-up on that. What does it
mean to BOOK? Also, what do your suggest for a good DVD disk that will also do light scribe?
You are very nice to be helping me, I really appreciate it.
Thanks, /a.
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16. August 2007 @ 11:11 |
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There is absolutely no reason to use DVDShrink. Even though folks talk of bitsetting/booktype, with standard DVD-5 blanks -R is still the way to go
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oldslow
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17. August 2007 @ 03:49 |
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I usually use -r also unless they are on sale and +r is all that is left. MysticE is correct in that shrink is not required, as it's name implies it shrinks large videos to fit on a standard -5 (4.7 gigabyte)
disc. I just like it, it's free, and easy to use. as for book type i cut/pasted an article (google/cdfreaks) it's a little long winded but it explains things fairly well.(http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/Increased-compatibility-DVD-bitsetting)
Compatibility is an important issue when it comes to DVD recording. Because there are three rivalling formats (DVD+RW, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM) not every DVD player is compatible with each disc. Even discs within each format do not always work on every player. In this article we will explain how to make some discs more compatible, why you need it and how it works.
Compatibility
In the past not every CD worked with every player and even nowadays people report that some bad discs do not work with every player (E.g. car audio players are known to be more picky). The DVD format didn't change the compatibility, it even made it worse. At the moment there are three different DVD recordable formats and all of them are different and require the DVD player to do different things. However the compatibility is still improved and the chance of a non working DVD recordable / DVD player combination is relatively small (think about 10-20%).
We will focus on DVD-R and DVD+RW as DVD-RAM is hardly used and uses a technique that is totally different from DVD-R and DVD+R. The DVD-R format is the oldest DVD recordable format and its original compatibility was good and is probably the best out of the box. Although the DVD-R format is marketed as the oldest and most compatible DVD recordable format, this isn't necessarily the case.
Difference between DVD-R and DVD+R
Physically there is a difference between a DVD-R disc and a DVD+R disc that is made during the production process. During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed (pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you can't make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room reserved for the so called 'booktype' field.
Changing the booktype field
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility. Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process it can't be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply can't write to that part of the disc. During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS keys can't be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space. However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly. This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the disc and that's why the ability to change the booktype field (bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype field.
DVD-R bitsetting
Although you will understand that it's not possible to change the booktype field for DVD-R discs there still excists a DVD-R bitsetting. Some claim that this increases the compatibility but this has not been independently confirmed by anyone and as it's technically impossible to change the booktype field it will still be possible for the hardware to find out that a disc is a DVD-R. The booktype setting for DVD-R discs seems to be based on a workaround that has not been proven to be working.
According to Michael Spath who studies both the +R and -R format and is known as an expert on technical DVD recording issues; "the trick is based on the fact that some drives read the booktype from the last border-in and not from the lead-in. Therefore if you create a second session on the disc you will create after the first session a new border-in, where you should normally copy the informations from the lead-in (including
the book type). With this trick, you instead write a DVD-ROM booktype in this second session, which violates the - standard. Also drives which read the booktype from the lead-in will not be fooled by this method (eg. some Pioneer drives". An intresting discussion about this can be found here.
Tools
The booktype field can be modified by several applications. Best known is Nero which allows you to modify field the booktype field for several brands of DVD recorders. Companies such as Lite-On, BTC, NU-Tech, Ricoh and BenQ have released tools to modify the booktype field. Firmware hacks (E.g. NEC) also are able to set the default booktype to DVD-ROM. Other companies such as LG have announced it will add support and Philips automatically changes the booktype using the firmware of the drive. Plextor has till now said it will not support it because it's not according to the DVD+R specifications. On our forum you will find many discussions on the several applications.
More technical information about the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R can be found here. Check here if there are reports that your favorite brand DVD recordables does not work with your DVD player.
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17. August 2007 @ 08:46 |
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Thank you for all the info. After I read your reply, I did some research on bitesetting and have a much better understanding of what it means. I also read info on booking and have a better understanding of that, too. I will burn disks to DVD-ROM format because it will work with most older DVD players.
What disks do you recommend that I purchase? I have an LG GSAE40L with light scribe.... Thanks again..../a.
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17. August 2007 @ 08:57 |
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Quote:
I will burn disks to DVD-ROM format because it will work with most older DVD players.
That may be somewhat true if you choose to use +R discs instead of the more compatible -R.
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17. August 2007 @ 10:13 |
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Oh boy - now I'm befuddled! Which brand of disk recommend using?
Is there a big difference between using a DVD-R from a DVD+R
disk? Thanks,/a.
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17. August 2007 @ 11:45 |
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It's actually a debate that can go on forever. Bitsetting +R was a way to bring this late arrival disc format up to the better compatability of -R. It has helped, for DL discs it is the only way to go, but in my experience (and many of the experts at VideoHelp), having tried both I still achieve better results with -R (which are usually also a bit cheaper).
As usual, your mileage may vary. :)
That said my discs of choice are Verbatim -R 16X and Taiyo Yuden -R 8X. The TY 16X have caused me a few problems. I gave up a long time ago on 'good deals' of unfamiliar media.
Good luck in your quest.
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