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Sony uses IFA to boast about Blu-ray sales
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article published on 31 August, 2007
At the recent IFA consumer electronics show in Berlin, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment used the show to boast about the company's Blu-ray movie sales across the world.
According to the company, sales for the studio's movies were near one million in North America and approaching 250,000 in Europe.
The numbers, although still small, are impressive considering Blu-ray movie sales only ... [ read the full article ]
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2. September 2007 @ 12:14 |
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Originally posted by xtago:
Vivid the largest Adult studio in the world is Blu-ray,
- You work away quibbling over what is or is not a 'stand-alone' player if you like, you're still just avoiding the lame performance of those Blu-ray capable players which can only manage to establish a (now shrinking) 60:40 'lead' in retail movie disc sales.
......and Vivid is dual format, actually.
Not Blu-ray exclusive.
But then like most of the Sony/PS3/Blu-ray fanclub facts are not exactly your strongest point.
.....and as for the 'extras' point?
Well it was something Blu-ray made such a big deal over, they claimed their new profiles along with their extra storage space gave them a major edge with this.
Interesting to see the Blu-ray support now dismiss it as of no consequence when their preferred format cannot even meet it's own specs.
Very funny.
But lies and distortion characterise this whole Blu-ray PR campaign.....and they really don't like it when people have the audacity to point out their lying campaign for what it is.
Whether it be fake websites
(another one outed today see here - http://valleywag.com/tech/sony/blu+ray-b...ite-278312.php)
or outright stupidity from the execs at the BDA.
It's been fun watching Frank Simonis (who is the chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association and also the senior director of communications) getting torn a new one.
http://www.avsforum.com/...showthread.php?t=901388
He's the idiot who has publicly claimed POTC couldn't fit on HD DVD cos it's 143 minutes long.
Looks like he forgot King Kong is 181 minutes
and Batman Begins is 140 minutes.
.....and whilst he was at it forgot all about the Blu-ray movies on BD25 discs.
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2. September 2007 @ 12:36 |
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Our strong fourth quarter line-up will underscore the confidence in this format
Why wait till Q4? Release more quality titles now! If you flood the stores with the titles that everybody had to have on DVD, then this might sway public opinion towards the Blu Ray camp. The same logic can be applied to HD as well. Put more movies out there now.
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I watch and buy movies for movies, not all the extra garbage that the studios spends excess money on.
Amen to that. I've been saying that for years. Give me a movie that I can put in my player and start watching within seconds. I don't need to hit play on a menu or sit through endless previews for movies that I've never heard of or have no intention of even viewing, let alone buy.
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The studios should just let it ride out for at least 2 years, completely drop DVD altogether and then see where the market goes, HD DVD or BD.
If this happens, there will be at least one movie watcher in the world that will find something better to do with his time. I'm not buying into this mentality one bit. Why should I be forced to upgrade? Some people are happy with their little Kia?s; others can't ride in anything less than a Mercedes. Choices are laid out in front of people for a reason. We (the consumer) are the reason any of these companies exist in the first place. They are here to serve our needs, not the other way around.
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2. September 2007 @ 18:07 |
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The studios should just let it ride out for at least 2 years, completely drop DVD altogether and then see where the market goes, HD DVD or BD.
If this happens, there will be at least one movie watcher in the world that will find something better to do with his time. I'm not buying into this mentality one bit. Why should I be forced to upgrade? Some people are happy with their little Kia?s; others can't ride in anything less than a Mercedes. Choices are laid out in front of people for a reason. We (the consumer) are the reason any of these companies exist in the first place. They are here to serve our needs, not the other way around.
I understand that one shouldn't be forced to upgrade, but why are movies pretty much unreleased on VHS anymore. Wasn't the consumer forced to go DVD eventually? It's just natural progression, the same way music went from 8-track, to cassette, to CD and now to MP3 or whatever digital format one prefers. There's no reason why the movies can not be sold at the same price current DVD releases go for, except for studios just milking the consumer. DVD has had its time and now the new thing is here. Though if they really want to end a format war, I think this is pretty much the only way it can go away, to kill off DVD altogether and let the consumer choose what format wins by sales numbers. The studios at the same time would be happy that the pirating will not be as prevalent as it is today which should see them rake in more money. Eventually it might get to the same level as it is now. If prices are set the same, most people will not have a problem upgrading to the higher quality movies. Your old movie collection on DVD can still be used with the newer systems, much better than how everything progressed in the past.
Have you owned a cassette player and/or VCR, what happened to them? And your analogy of Kias for some and Mercedes for others can still be accomplished, same as DVD machines sold today. The consumer has everything from $29 Chinese garbage players to what some would call asinine out of this world pricing players. It's already going to happen shortly with the less than $200 HDDVD machines. Prices will drop further in the years to come, just as DVD players have. Again natural progression.
There really is no need to have 3 formats to choose from. As I said ride it out 2 years, during that time start to weed out DVD, the same way cassettes were weeded out of music stores and then just have the 2 HD choices, if they are both still around in 2 years time.
Well if they won't kill off DVD, the least they could do is kill off 4x3 fullscreen presentations of the movie. Because if and when I rent a movie and the place I can rent from only stocks full screen, the studios lie to me when it says, "This movie has been formatted to fit your screen." No it hasn't, my screen is a 16x9 screen.
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3. September 2007 @ 06:44 |
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Originally posted by DC5R:
It's just natural progression, the same way music went from 8-track, to cassette, to CD and now to MP3 or whatever digital format one prefers.
That is the point. Progression is ok, as long as it is gradual and the old design is phased out. In your proposed scenario, you say that the studios should just stop producing DVD's. If that was the case, there would be a major upset in consumer confidence in either of the new formats. If the studios stopped producing on DVD today, what does that say about the future prospects of HD and Blu Ray?
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There's no reason why the movies can not be sold at the same price current DVD releases go for, except for studios just milking the consumer.
Fully agreed there. Many would claim that the current prices of DVD's are too high to begin with. I don't mind paying $12 to $18 for a movie, but when it comes to $80 or so for a boxed set (Sopranos) that is where I have to draw the line.
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DVD has had its time and now the new thing is here.
I feel that DVD will still be with us for a few more years to come.
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kill off DVD altogether and let the consumer choose what format wins by sales numbers.
There are a lot more people out there who can not afford either of the new formats than people who can. The only real problem with High Def is the large initial investment (library, player, TV) where as DVD embraced existing technology as far as displaying the content. Granted, initial DVD player and disc prices were expensive, but you did not need a new TV or surround sound to enjoy the benefits.
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The studios at the same time would be happy that the pirating will not be as prevalent as it is today
If they outright stop producing DVD's, pirating would advance to a level previously undreamed of by the MPAA.
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Have you owned a cassette player and/or VCR, what happened to them?
Yes, I have, but gradually over time all analog media has been replaced with digital media. This was a slow drawn out process for me. I have about 1,500 DVD's. I'm not even going to entertain the idea of replacoing my entire collection with a new format.
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the least they could do is kill off 4x3 fullscreen presentations of the movie.
Amen. I love seeing the reaction of all the people who couldn't stand the black bars on the top and bottom of the screen when they watch their 4:3 shows on a widescreen and GASP, the bars are on the left and right!
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3. September 2007 @ 07:11 |
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Originally posted by Unfocused:
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kill off DVD altogether and let the consumer choose what format wins by sales numbers.
There are a lot more people out there who can not afford either of the new formats than people who can. The only real problem with High Def is the large initial investment (library, player, TV) where as DVD embraced existing technology as far as displaying the content. Granted, initial DVD player and disc prices were expensive, but you did not need a new TV or surround sound to enjoy the benefits.
Granted not everyone can afford hi-def equipment, but they don't need to have all the bells and whistles, I'm sure there are still quite a few people without a true surround system and they probably still watch rented or purchased DVDs. Well like you said above, people can still watch hi-def movies in the same manner, because you don't necessarily need a surround system or tv, unless you really want the full experience. DVD was that way somewhat, watch a dvd somewhere where the person only has a tv and uses that for sound output, then go back and watch at your place, which would you prefer? Don't answer that, because I'm assuming you have a decent setup if you have a 1500+ DVD collection. So to fully enjoy the DVD benefits one would need a surround system. :) I'm just pointing out, people can still watch content on non-hidef tvs and without surround sound.
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The studios at the same time would be happy that the pirating will not be as prevalent as it is today
Originally posted by Unfocused:
If they outright stop producing DVD's, pirating would advance to a level previously undreamed of by the MPAA.
Damn, I see what you mean and I completely overlooked that...whoops.
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Have you owned a cassette player and/or VCR, what happened to them?
Originally posted by Unfocused:
Yes, I have, but gradually over time all analog media has been replaced with digital media. This was a slow drawn out process for me. I have about 1,500 DVD's. I'm not even going to entertain the idea of replacoing my entire collection with a new format.
Oh I'm like you, I definitely will not be replacing my entire DVD collection, but that's the joy about the new formats, they can still play what you currently have. I'm up to 35 BDs right now, some were definitely DVDs I owned, I have given those DVDs to a friend, but mostly I will just purchase new releases and grab some old flicks that I think will be worthwhile on HD format and part way with the DVD if I have it. About the analog, think of the movie collections people had on VHS, that was a dump on the consumer when no longer produced, but then again not really as the market was moving to digital like you said, but still consumers were forced to upgrade. People may have been sore that they purchased a bunch of movies in that format, but at least once DVD is gone, the format is not dead like VHS was because you can still watch your library on either of the new formats. So that's a definite plus as compared to the past.
And I should have worded differently my first post you quoted, I didn't quite mean just stop production of DVD right now, as I fixed in the second post you partially quoted, let it phase out over the next 2 years just as cassette tapes phased out and consumers were forced to purchase CD players if they wanted to buy and listen to new music. The same can be done for the HD formats. Neither format is really going to win, of course this is my opinion, as long as DVD is still in existence. Studios should just change pricing now for HD content to that of DVD pricing (granted old titles can be had for $20) and watch if the market will adopt and accept it in a quicker fashion than what is happening currently.
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3. September 2007 @ 10:44 |
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I don't know how to do that quote ting but Hughjars said "Things have moved on since the video tape wars but nevertheless DVD porno is a multi-billion dollar 'industry'."
True we have moved on since beta and VHS but the players or indutries that were involved in the dedission making are still here. I would would bet that porn has gotten more popular these last couple years.
Don't get me wrong I own neither, blu-ray or HD. So I could care less. Frankly I would like them to stay with regular DVDs a little longer, cause I can't afford to buy new stuff every 10 years, please I'll go out and buy whoever may win and in 10 years their gonna make something bigger and better, thats if they haven't allready made it and their just waiting to suck more money outta us.
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Back and forth we go in the HD Definition war.
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Please try not to bump up articles that are this old.
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