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today is 9 september , what about the iso loader ???
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elranoved
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9. September 2007 @ 03:05 |
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someone know whaw or wherer shold we look for the iso loader ??
of ottoman team ????
is it say this is fake :(
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9. September 2007 @ 07:24 |
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I'm sure it is all bs.
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ehsan_c
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9. September 2007 @ 08:42 |
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yeah don't keep your hopes up, its most likely that it was fake. I wish it was true, but unfortunately a vast number of gays on the net release fakes.
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9. September 2007 @ 08:45 |
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I hope no one was actually waiting for an "iso loader"
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9. September 2007 @ 10:39 |
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Actually I forgot about it until I saw this topic. It's hard to keep track of every idiot posting a date for their isoloader release.
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D3DAiM
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9. September 2007 @ 12:20 |
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Yeah, you can't really put a date on the iso loader. It will be out when it is released and there will most likely be no set release date.
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9. September 2007 @ 12:37 |
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there people who mke these videos r sad wankers, there jus playin us for mugs, we might aswell wait for the paradox loder or is that a fake aswell, this is the third time, wtf jus release 1 already
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9. September 2007 @ 12:41 |
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Originally posted by perry07:
there people who mke these videos r sad wankers, there jus playin us for mugs, we might aswell wait for the paradox loder or is that a fake aswell, this is the third time, wtf jus release 1 already
What?!
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Travar
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9. September 2007 @ 22:59 |
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The ISO loasr would be sweet... But I don't get something...
If a ISO loader comes out, how would we store ISOs on a FAT32 formatted disk (4 GB max file size) and it wouldn't be practical as the disk size would only allocate 2-3 games.
What we need is a way of backing up BluRay disks.
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10. September 2007 @ 09:19 |
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Well the problem lies with the hardware they are using,which are dev units.A dev unit can infact be used to produce an iso loader,but won't do the community any good.They are built completely different and are not structured like a regular PS3.Another thing I wanted to bring up was that PS3news tried to use a dvd instead of blu-ray media in order to boot a disc.It won't work though,because it doesn't put the drive in a blu-ray read state.Blu-Ray and dvd are complete different and the reason they are different is the pots stored on the discs.Blu-Ray has different boot key information than a regular dvd as well.Until someone with the right knowledge and hardware steps up and takes the challenge it will never get done.Also try not to think of an isoloader as being harddrive specific as well,Blu-Ray media can be used on the system and would allow NTFS write support if used in conjunction with a PC.Backing up the images is possible,but as mentioned being able to boot them is impossible at the moment and the drive has to be able to read them in the correct state.I would also like to say why doesn't someone build an app that dumps the internal bios of the system so devs could study how the system works.I'm sure someone has looked into it,but with the right resources it can be done by looking at the PS2 bios dumper code by Pukko.
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10. September 2007 @ 10:45 |
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is it possible that an extremely talented DEV can code a Firmware for the BD-rom drive in the PS3 similar to X360 so it can read DVD ps2 back ups and in the future read BD-rom backups...just a thought
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10. September 2007 @ 14:35 |
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Actually being able to code a firmware I doubt it,because you have to be able to extract them first.At the moment there is no true firmware extracting program for the PS3.You would have to use the system to actually extract the archive of a firmware,because the archive uses an advanced technique for compression.Although there is a downside to this you can use a modchip and auto patch the firmware,but this a work in progress as well and probably won't be discovered for a very long time.The Infectus modchip uses the auto patching technique and can run backed up PS2 games on dvd,but since they have no knowledge on the actual firmware for PS3 they can't start development for auto patching for PS3 games.They can dump the extracted firmwares using the infectus modchip,but they can only offer a downgrading option.Finding the location in the firmware and patching it is the answer,and that is what is going to take a very long time.So the answer is XBox 360 was discovered by messing with the drive firmware,but the PS3 doesn't use a drive technique.It uses the internal firmware nand where the hypervisor and everything else is stored.The drive for the PS3 is actually driven by this internal nand storage chip.If you look through one of the firmware updates with a hex editor you can tell,because the Blu-Ray driver is inside of it.
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10. September 2007 @ 15:03 |
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Originally posted by L-Burna:
Actually being able to code a firmware I doubt it,because you have to be able to extract them first.At the moment there is no true firmware extracting program for the PS3.You would have to use the system to actually extract the archive of a firmware,because the archive uses an advanced technique for compression.Although there is a downside to this you can use a modchip and auto patch the firmware,but this a work in progress as well and probably won't be discovered for a very long time.The Infectus modchip uses the auto patching technique and can run backed up PS2 games on dvd,but since they have no knowledge on the actual firmware for PS3 they can't start development for auto patching for PS3 games.They can dump the extracted firmwares using the infectus modchip,but they can only offer a downgrading option.Finding the location in the firmware and patching it is the answer,and that is what is going to take a very long time.So the answer is XBox 360 was discovered by messing with the drive firmware,but the PS3 doesn't use a drive technique.It uses the internal firmware nand where the hypervisor and everything else is stored.The drive for the PS3 is actually driven by this internal nand storage chip.If you look through one of the firmware updates with a hex editor you can tell,because the Blu-Ray driver is inside of it.
L-Burna: Wouldn't it be possible to stream an uncompressed firmware during an auto-update and dump it into something that is readable?
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10. September 2007 @ 15:19 |
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I don't think that it will be a stand alone iso loader. I think the first step is going to be a hacked firmware, but even that is far fetched. The psp custom firmwares are built on 1.5 firmware which anyone in the psp scene knows will run homebrew without any need for modification. With the ps3 there was no such firmware so it will be a little hard to build a firmware on top of something that never existed. The world has great hackers that only live to do this kind of thing, and I'm sure they're working on it as I type this. Maybe it will be exploited maybe not, but until then I'm still happy with my unmodded ps3. There are ways to run ps2 homebrew(.elf files) with swap magic and you don't have to install the switch. This has only been tested on a pal ps3 at 1.8 firmware.
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10. September 2007 @ 16:23 |
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I stop looking for this ISO loader 4 or 5 months ago.
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10. September 2007 @ 19:07 |
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Running unsigned code on the PS3 is pretty hard to do,and to fake an update to have it dump in another location would be the second step.I'm not going to say it isn't possible,but would need a hack in order to accomplish it which is what we all need to even start.A hacked firmware I don't think will be possible unless you can actually extract it first.I think using a modchip and auto patching the firmware would probably happen before a firmware hack.I'm not going to call it an isoloader,but I would rather call it auto patching firmware.An isoloader could evolve from this,but would require media instead of using the harddrive.The problem with the harddrive is the format FAT32,which prevents transferring anything over the 4GB limit.The PS2 .elf files still work like a charm,and this might be the answer to running a bootstrap code something similar to the independence exploit.The best thing to do is wait and see what happens,but I'm completely convinced a modchip such as infectus can get the job done.They have already proven to everyone that they can read and write to the internal nand of the PS3,which actually is a big step when you think about it.
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10. September 2007 @ 19:36 |
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Yeah, a media solution will more than likely be the first step. However, it will be an EXPENSIVE solution. There also aren't any affordable solutions in the way of Blu Ray recorders or media.
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10. September 2007 @ 20:09 |
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Yeah I agree with that Blu-Ray media is expensive and the burners aren't cheap also.I can find Blu-Ray media for $14,but that is still expensive when you think about it not to mention the most expensive investment which is the Blu-Ray burner itself.It cost as much as the PS3 when you think about it.
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D3DAiM
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10. September 2007 @ 20:13 |
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At that price it is definitely not an investment. The cons outweigh the benefits.
We will all just to have to wait for some firmware hack..
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elranoved
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11. September 2007 @ 02:00 |
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so i guess there is no hope , even for playing ps2 backup on ps3 will be a comfort for a while
that's all bad news , i guess know one will know how to crack this shit
i guess sony did a great job by defending the console against piracy
that a very bad news
no money to buy games :(
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11. September 2007 @ 06:05 |
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im kinda shocked hackers havent cracked the ps3 yet but when you think about it the ps2 wasnt that easy to crack either to this day having to use an annoying swap method to play backups for a ps2 kinda shows that sony is no joke and a slap in the face for hackers that havent cracked the ps3 yet.
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11. September 2007 @ 09:22 |
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WOW I am actually waiting for a modchip, a loader isnt realistic and as mentioned above FAT32 is a pain in my a-hole. Its gonna be a while but the person who does crack it will go down in history hardcore! I'm a lil disapointed, i expected it to be cracked wide open like the psp. OH WELL YOU WIN SOME YOU LOSE SOME!
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30. October 2007 @ 17:59 |
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hi guys im new here my lil bro upgraded my psp to 3.51 :( and i was wondering when will a downgrader be out and who should iask to make me one ?
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D3DAiM
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30. October 2007 @ 18:14 |
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You are in the PS3 section.
You are posting in a thread about a fake iso loader for a PS3.
Nobody is going to MAKE you a downgrader...you gotta find one on your own.
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30. October 2007 @ 20:25 |
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stopped believeing in 35 yrs ago ..missus asked me what i wanted for crimble .`x mas for over seas patrons of afternoon .com .told her iso loader for me ps3 .where do i buy that she added .northpole i think if he does exist .love me psp with me ps3 .
what is a good game for a preessie for x mas .got rfom .crap at it .got games off the sony store .why is it so hard to dl games from the owners of said games .. bought crash etc .must of spent 60 uk pounds on dl games .dont care for now if i cant copy them.make them all playable .make some money SONY .
people who have had any sony ps 1 2 3 toy have had or will have whatever they release .had all three loved them all .let me play old games from dl or sell me old stock at a reasonable price
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