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Demonoid returns but forced to block Canadian traffic to site

article published on 30 September, 2007

Demonoid is finally back online after a week of downtime in which rumors swirled that the tracker was taken down by the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA). Although the rumors proved to be somewhat true, the tracker and website are still being hosted on a Canadian ISP but now must block all Canadian traffic. A note on the Demonoid homepage had this to say, "We received a letter ... [ read the full article ]

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30. September 2007 @ 19:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This "traffic shaping" sucks but at least its better then the alterative of the torrent sites being constantly hounded by feds.

Hopefully they don't have to block USA traffic or that will be another small victory for the MPAA/RIAA. But, sounds like Demonoid is only blocking Canada traffic so it doesn't get into trouble for being hosted there.

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30. September 2007 @ 20:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why torrent with so many sites hosting files and video online :s what's the point torrent i so slow anyway even thought a have a great bandwith
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30. September 2007 @ 20:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn this sucks!!!!!!!!!
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30. September 2007 @ 21:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Sharing copyrighted works on peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday, handing the record industry a sharp setback in its international fight against file swappers.
http://www.news.com/2100-1027_3-5182641.html

Time to find a REAL LAWYER eh Demonoid?
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30. September 2007 @ 21:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So much for Canada being a safe haven for music downloads
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30. September 2007 @ 22:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chaos_zzz:
why torrent with so many sites hosting files and video online :s what's the point torrent i so slow anyway even thought a have a great bandwith
...what?

Originally posted by svtstang:
Sharing copyrighted works on peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday, handing the record industry a sharp setback in its international fight against file swappers.
...interesting.
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30. September 2007 @ 22:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Svtstang that article was from 2004?
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30. September 2007 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank god i live in Germany
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30. September 2007 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
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Sharing copyrighted works on peer-to-peer networks is legal in Canada, a federal judge ruled on Wednesday, handing the record industry a sharp setback in its international fight against file swappers.
http://www.news.com/2100-1027_3-5182641.html

Time to find a REAL LAWYER eh Demonoid?
This news story is from March 2004. A bit old news isn't it!
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1. October 2007 @ 01:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@svstang

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Time to find a REAL LAWYER eh Demonoid?
Deimos pays for the website out of his own pocket !!!!!!!

Do you have any money to contribute towards lawyers eh??

If not, that's not a very nice thing to say is it??
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1. October 2007 @ 03:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Demonoid has some hard to find torrents, it'll be a shame if all Canadian ISPs block access to the site.

But they can't get away with that because every blank CD bought in Canada has a levy fee on top of what you normally pay, so in a sense you pay for the music through that. Who collects the levy fees? CRIA.... I'm sure CRIA doesn't want a class action suit on their hands.

went to Demonoid and it said this:
The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We'll be back soon
Didn't mention anything about being bloacked.

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1. October 2007 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm in Canada....and yes, the site it blocked. Which is really too bad. Makes more hassle for me. Now I have to load proxy settings, then wait for the slow speeds. :( frustrating, to say the least, but I believe it's worth it :)

And I can see Deimos's view in not taking this whole things to court, even with a precedent being set. I mean, if they make this whole thing drag on, it could bury him in fees. Then Demonoid's fucked. So I support him. Donate, people!!! I give $10 a month. Nothing to me, but if 1000 people who visited did that, it'd be a lot of money, with faster servers and maybe even the chance to move and avoid this "No Canadians" BS
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1. October 2007 @ 05:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This really sucks, I live in Canada and love Demonoid.
I'll guess I'll have to use one of the many other torrent sites.
But none are as good as demonoid.
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1. October 2007 @ 07:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this site had torrents that actually showed up before other sites and have some exclusives and the hard-to-find stuff.
i'm uber angry and will continue to be if the entertainment mafia blocks this site completely.
we all get screwed by owing at tax time or at getting very little back, they pilidge our paychecks for taxes and they shank you for every little thing that "has" to be taxed like property.
so why can't they leave us alone? is it because the music industry is crying that they can only afford a 12room mansion and a viper instead of a 36room mansion a mazeratti equipped with pirating missiles? lol
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1. October 2007 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chubbyInc:
Demonoid has some hard to find torrents, it'll be a shame if all Canadian ISPs block access to the site.

But they can't get away with that because every blank CD bought in Canada has a levy fee on top of what you normally pay, so in a sense you pay for the music through that. Who collects the levy fees? CRIA.... I'm sure CRIA doesn't want a class action suit on their hands.

went to Demonoid and it said this:
The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We'll be back soon
Didn't mention anything about being bloacked.
hey, what proxy do you use? I do hope that Demonoid won't block Canadian ISP's for eternity!!! But I guess its just fair coz recently, torrentspy.com have blocked every American ISP's which sucks for them. So it works both ways...
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1. October 2007 @ 07:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
US can use Demonoid and Canadians can use isohunt and torrentspy.

bbq on the grill...everybody wins!!

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1. October 2007 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by emugamer:
US can use Demonoid and Canadians can use isohunt and torrentspy.

bbq on the grill...everybody wins!!
Yeah, but neither is as good as Demonoid, but hey what can you do.

P.S. I'll take some bbq, i'm starving.

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1. October 2007 @ 08:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by emugamer:
US can use Demonoid and Canadians can use isohunt and torrentspy.

bbq on the grill...everybody wins!!
i live in Germany i can use them all!!!
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1. October 2007 @ 08:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by emugamer:
US can use Demonoid and Canadians can use isohunt and torrentspy.

bbq on the grill...everybody wins!!
i live in Germany i can use them all!!!
You shouldn't be boasting about it. The Canadians were constantly boasting to USA and the rest of us how they can get away with anything and now look. If we start boasting (I'm from Europe too btw) then we'll probably get noticed too....maybe :)
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1. October 2007 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For all canadian demonoid members there is a way around the isp blocking go here http://www.demonoiders.com/forum/index.php
there is how to guides and tutorials. HA! The CRIA loses again!
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1. October 2007 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For all canadian demonoid members there is a way around the isp blocking go here http://www.demonoiders.com/forum/index.php
there is how to guides and tutorials. HA! The CRIA loses again!
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1. October 2007 @ 09:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL children, don't shoot the messenger.....the precedent was set in 2004, so?? I was only posting what I found, take it or leave it. O know Canadians have posted in this thread....why not state the law?? I know most of you are too lazy, but here is the case http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2004...2004fc488.html.

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Deimos pays for the website out of his own pocket !!!!!!!

Do you have any money to contribute towards lawyers eh??

If not, that's not a very nice thing to say is it??
Sensitive and dense, nice combo! You think Deimos foots the bill?? Demonoid is the second largest tracker after TPB....I am pretty confident this guy is living pretty nicely with all the "donations" he receives.


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1. October 2007 @ 09:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried your link but all I got is a "404 error"
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1. October 2007 @ 09:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/2004/2004fc488/2004fc488.html

Sorry I put a period at the end of the link, got messed up. My apologies.

A little snippet I found interesting

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[25]Thus, downloading a song for personal use does not amount to infringement. See Copyright Board's, Private Copying 2003-2004 Decision, 12 December, 2003, at page 20.

[26]No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings. They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer users via a P2P service.
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I have no idea if these laws are obsolete. From what I have read and been told these laws do still exist. No need to go after me for posting what I found using Google lol.


This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1. October 2007 @ 09:52

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1. October 2007 @ 18:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm in the US too, and having no trouble accessing ISOHUNT or TorrentSpy...so much for blocking. I recommend Canadian users to get a VPN tunnel to a proxy ISP outside their country and then they'll have no problem either...it's just a less direct connection...ayy the beauty of a world wide web.
 
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