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22. October 2007 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ginger007:
quote=Oner : "The next time you specifically try to disrespect me or anyone else in this manner you will have some time off."

It's so nice that we live in a world of free speech!

Well oner, I don't mind one bit. Do you really feel an adult like me would worry about being banned from a forum? Like it's really gonna affect my life in the slightest?

If you only want to run Forums where you get to say what you think and flame anyone else, fine have it your way. I'll take part in adult forums elsewhere.

Enjoy the power while you can for outside is the real world where I have no doubt you are a nobody!!! It must be nice being you:)

For someone who doesn't know me you sure speak as if otherwise...But fine, I can sure help you with your request in which you "won't mind one bit". Have a read here while you have said time off http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/380660 and if you further cannot abide by said rules then a more permanent vacation would be in order. ;)

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monopoman
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22. October 2007 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hate to break it to you buddy but your first amendment rights don't apply on a forum.

This is owned by someone and they can easily ban or remove anything they deem fit.

You want free speech make your own version of Afterdawn.com.
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22. October 2007 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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So many misguided and misinformed people it amazes me, especially some of the things people try to "rationalize"
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As we've received a record number of complains about users in console forums not violating the letter of our rules, but instead having what I call "bad attitude" towards other members, we've given our moderators free hands for the time being to ban permanently, without warning, people who don't contribute to the forums with their messages, but instead, try to make everybody's lives miserable in forums.

What I mean are the people who don't offer any real help, but instead pick on others who are either asking for help or offering their help.
According to this the mod is not following the rules and should therefore suspend himself!
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22. October 2007 @ 22:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by metal13:
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So many misguided and misinformed people it amazes me, especially some of the things people try to "rationalize"
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As we've received a record number of complains about users in console forums not violating the letter of our rules, but instead having what I call "bad attitude" towards other members, we've given our moderators free hands for the time being to ban permanently, without warning, people who don't contribute to the forums with their messages, but instead, try to make everybody's lives miserable in forums.

What I mean are the people who don't offer any real help, but instead pick on others who are either asking for help or offering their help.
According to this the mod is not following the rules and should therefore suspend himself!

A moderators primary job is to police the posts on the site it could hardly be refered to as "picking on others".

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22. October 2007 @ 23:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
'So many misguided and misinformed people it amazes me.? Very true, Oner.

With all the ideas that buying a console, in itself, constitutes as ?paying? for games, I felt compelled to educate the rest of you (Ginger007) especially, as to the real costs involved.

Firstly, I understand that not everybody has the means to afford games, and there for will always seek cheaper alternatives. Unfortunately though, the purchase of said console will never cover you for such activities.

It is common knowledge throughout the gaming community, especially to any one that considers themselves 'wise? to anything in these forums, that ALL consoles are initial sold with a large lost in profit.

Take the PS3 for example, when released hardware costs incurred to Sony were over $800, yet cost you, the consumer a mere $599. Do the math, at least a $200 loss. Why do this? Because losses are recouped with game sales.

Simply put, those of you just buying the consoles and NOT buying games is obviously costing the manufacturer money. Eventually, the only option to regain the initial loss is to raise game prices for the rest of us honest hard working individuals.

We all call ourselves gamers, so do the right thing, if you can afford to buy it then buy it! Support the developers, you know its right!

Follow this link for a complete breakdown of cost incurred to Sony in regards to the PS3:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/...1117130000.html
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23. October 2007 @ 04:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i bought my ps3 in december of 2006 for $639. i bought resistance-fall of man for $63 and recently purchased heavenly sword for $62 . I believe i am doing my part and that the ps3 as much as i want it opened up, should not be YET. Like other people have said, sony is losing out on the ps3 itself. and after playing heavenly sword and watching the extras i'm happy to pay retail prices for now. I think they said it took 4 years to make heavenly sword and although the game could have been longer, it was awesome in my opinion. once time has gone by, sony has made some money back, people have bought retail games for a said amount of time and all is well, i wouldn't feel bad playing backups and would hope the ps3 will be opened up. i also would not mind paying $200-400 for a blu-ray burner and the price of blu-ray disks knowing that 1- i would be supporting sony anyway by buying blu-rays or burners and 2- in the long run i'd save myself a little cash and 3- with those prices i wouldn't be burn crazy like with the ps2. there will always be people who do everything legit and those who take shortcuts. i like to think in the end it all works out. look at the ps2. i'd say that worked out. as will the ps3
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23. October 2007 @ 06:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Saying that Sony (or any console manufacturer) is losing money because of people backing up games is not true.
They took in account that people would do it (if possible) so they do not count on those people in the first place. These are pople that wouldn't buy a game anyway.
Its like saying that CocaCola is losing money due to people drinking water.
Its the manufacturers job to make people want to buy their product. And not vice versa, the people job to buy their product.
Its the basics of economics.
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23. October 2007 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by metal13:
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So many misguided and misinformed people it amazes me, especially some of the things people try to "rationalize"
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As we've received a record number of complains about users in console forums not violating the letter of our rules, but instead having what I call "bad attitude" towards other members, we've given our moderators free hands for the time being to ban permanently, without warning, people who don't contribute to the forums with their messages, but instead, try to make everybody's lives miserable in forums.

What I mean are the people who don't offer any real help, but instead pick on others who are either asking for help or offering their help.
According to this the mod is not following the rules and should therefore suspend himself!

A moderators primary job is to police the posts on the site it could hardly be refered to as "picking on others".
Thank You canuckerz, I couldn't have said it any better myself. As for you metal13 I guess learning by the example made with Ginger007 is not enough for some? Just remember that it applies to newbies also.

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23. October 2007 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by baldfrog:
'So many misguided and misinformed people it amazes me.? Very true, Oner.

With all the ideas that buying a console, in itself, constitutes as ?paying? for games, I felt compelled to educate the rest of you (Ginger007) especially, as to the real costs involved.

Firstly, I understand that not everybody has the means to afford games, and there for will always seek cheaper alternatives. Unfortunately though, the purchase of said console will never cover you for such activities.

It is common knowledge throughout the gaming community, especially to any one that considers themselves 'wise? to anything in these forums, that ALL consoles are initial sold with a large lost in profit.

Take the PS3 for example, when released hardware costs incurred to Sony were over $800, yet cost you, the consumer a mere $599. Do the math, at least a $200 loss. Why do this? Because losses are recouped with game sales.

Simply put, those of you just buying the consoles and NOT buying games is obviously costing the manufacturer money. Eventually, the only option to regain the initial loss is to raise game prices for the rest of us honest hard working individuals.

We all call ourselves gamers, so do the right thing, if you can afford to buy it then buy it! Support the developers, you know its right!

Follow this link for a complete breakdown of cost incurred to Sony in regards to the PS3:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/...00.html


Very well put and almost exactly described as to one of the meanings/aspects of my comment.

steve785
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23. October 2007 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i would just like to add that im very dissapointed with the ps3 i have had it since march 07 and have hardly played on it! i have bought games how many has it got ???? i have been online with it and thats it when are we going to see what it is capable off i play on my psp more than a 4 hundred pound machine and now im even more gutted the price has been slashed for xmas.... if i would have known this i would have saved my cash and got one then!!! when are sony going to pull their finger out?? i would buy certain games but i would also like the chance to back them up adios amigos
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23. October 2007 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Edited for content that violates forum rules as this member cannot abide by forum rules and speak like an adult.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. October 2007 @ 14:12

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23. October 2007 @ 12:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had originally posted something else but seeing that I'm not some punk 12 year old that just learned how to use dirty words. All I'm going to say is I hope you like vacations.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. October 2007 @ 12:37

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23. October 2007 @ 14:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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26. October 2007 @ 15:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Oner:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Well I guess I will now join the exit queue too but Oner, you don't wear "SS" on an armband do you? Have you forgot why millions of people went to war 60 years ago? If this was paper you would be burning people's comments wouldn't you! Geez, try to be less aggressive and let people speak. It won't hurt you honest!

Anyone remember sticks and stones?
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26. October 2007 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You honestly don't know what you are talking about, it is a dead issue so please stay out of it.

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28. October 2007 @ 10:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Edited for content that disregards a moderators warning.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. October 2007 @ 17:22

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28. October 2007 @ 17:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Closed and certain people noted for watch.

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