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Backing Up Games
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Scot
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10. December 2003 @ 11:50 |
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DJboogie. My Phillips reads cd-r too, no problem, i have tried 6 or 7 different kinds and all have worked. And I agree that Record now max is the best program to burn your iso images.
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Scot
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10. December 2003 @ 11:52 |
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WelshBoa
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10. December 2003 @ 12:13 |
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Yeah just trioed a RW+ and it didnt work so will try Record Now. How easy is it to do?? Does it mean my xbox wont recognise this type of RW+ though as it failed with Nero??
(Also just backed up the game Counter strike and it only came out at 1.6gig? Is that a bit small for x-box game?)
Does anyone have a link to a tutorial for burning backups thru Record now max?
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Scot
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11. December 2003 @ 03:51 |
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Simple all you will have to do is open up record now max, close the wizard that pops up, select the image tab on top, choose your recorder, browse to your iso and select it (you need to click the little pull down to change the extention from gi to iso) then hit burn. That is it.
BTW 1.6gigs could be correct. If you question it just redo it and see what the other comes up with and compare the 2. If it comes out 1.6 gigs again then you no you got it.
Make sure that you are using flash fxp to transfer your files from xbox to pc. I have tried them all and flash fxp is the best!!!
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11. December 2003 @ 21:51 |
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scot is definately right regarding flash fxp, other ftp clinets dont seem to connect nearly as good, flash fxp connects right away every time, 1.6 gb is fine for xbox games, of course that dont mean its right (gta3 is smaller than 1gb I believe)
scot I have heard the philips drive is far superior to the thomson.
another good thing to check on is your network setting, rustydog has a great instruction pdf for network connecting, follow this exact, you cant go wrong
http://get-modded.com/tutorials/BasicNetworking.pdf
when I first tried ftp connecting, I made the error of having the pc as the same ip as the xbox. Duh lol
Also make sure when you ftp to the xbox that you drag over each folder from the xbox d:/ (game) one by one, dont copy them all over at once, I find it confuses things and ou sometimes end up with missing files.
If you do find games are too big (terminator 3 for instance) then just take out some movie sequences, although the t3 sequences are cool!
I havent YET found a game I have problems with, but I hear there are a couple of problem ones out there. If you have a bigger than retail hard drive you can always just copy them right into that instead of a disc.
Scot is right though, xbox dvd drives are all differnt, not only with the type of disc, but the make too, I do find the samsung sdg-605 to read anything (brand) I put into it, which is great for putting music into the box from your collection. (cdr)
If you follow instructions and "techniques" step by step, and dont rush it, you'll be fine:-)
We all probably lost a few discs somewhere down the line.
Also its a good idea when you make an xiso (use craxtion it rocks!) to keep the image onto your hard drive, if your hard drive is a big one, I found out the hard way, I backed up my copy of gta vice city, the dog ate my original, and then the copy too got accidently destroyed, I ended up renting it from a video library to get it again (I wasnt doing anything too terrible I mean I had bought it once!!)
If you have problems backing up games, pm or email me I will be glad to help if I can:-)
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11. December 2003 @ 21:54 |
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After you have made the udf (xiso) you only need to burn that image you created to disc, if you drag all the files from the xbox to burn, then it wont work, it has to be xiso format for the box to be able to read it (bloody microsoft:-))
Its actually a good way to back up dvd films too (ftp from the xbox hard drive, then use dvd shrink)
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WelshBoa
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11. December 2003 @ 22:12 |
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Thanks for the info guys - yeah the connection part I have cracked - its just finding the media to make it work.
I did copy the folder over all in one, but double checked it and nothing seems to be missing.
Now I have to find the disk. How do you know what dvd drive you have btw in your xbox?
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Scot
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12. December 2003 @ 04:32 |
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Here you can look and see what drive you have here. http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=23&t=17216&hl=whatstockdvddrivedoihave&view=findpost&p=247188
I can say this, I have used all kinds and types of media. Verbatim and Imation dvd+r and Imation cd-r (700mb) work 100% with my phillips drive. I love my phillips it reads anything but dvd+rw, which is fine with me as I no my back up procedure is correct. I dont even test games on the hard drive anymore I just burn them and I am confident that they will work.
I wanna stress that when looking for a dvd that will work to look for a nice dark purple dvd, the lighter shades of peuple tend to not read as good IMO, they sell sample packs so just buy a few different kinds until one works then buy more of those.
Just make sure that you have your backup procedure is correct, it will drive you insane after a while if you keep getting dvd's that dont work. I went thru 7 dvd the first time i made a back up only to find out I was not making them right.
Use Craxtion, GDF Image, or Qwix to make your iso. Make sure that if your bios is older that you patch the iso for media flags. For this Craxtion works nice, as well as ADR Patcher for removing media protection for games.
You dont need to patch games if you are running the x2_4977 or later version, or the Evox M7 bios, the bios will bypass the media checks.
Use record now max to burn your iso images it is the best burning software for backups IMO.
Good luck and let me no if i can help!
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WelshBoa
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12. December 2003 @ 04:37 |
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Well I have a Samsung drive folks! That should narrow down my search a bit for media!
Cheers for the link Scott.
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WelshBoa
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12. December 2003 @ 06:48 |
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It worked!!! Managed to back up counter-strike and so far it plays just fine!
Only one thing that slightly puzzles me. When I was copying it with Record Now it got to about 70% and said "finalizing disc" then it just went straight to "completed".
As I said it works fine but I expected it to crash or something.
ps: I'm using cheap Grade A DVD -R and this is what it has worked on. Thanks everyone for your great advice.......
I may need some more soon!
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13. December 2003 @ 10:15 |
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Can someone help me out i have my brute force and i just got my t3 rise of machines i want to back them up but the both are too big the t3 5.67gb and don't know how i will get around doing so and the brute force is 5.11gb need help here. One more thing i have a x2.2 lite with x2 4977 bios and want to update to the latest bios how will i go around doing soo like how the chip is flashed already? Thanks for any help
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manutd
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13. December 2003 @ 16:56 |
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TRY BUYING A BLOODY DVD-R DVD-RW BURNER MAYBY U IMBISILE...
man utd rocks old trafford and fu(ks up elland road>>>>
MAN UTD ROCKS!!!
GO THE KINGS OF OLD TRAFFORD!!!
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13. December 2003 @ 18:06 |
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Ok i have a dvd burner but i wanna fit my game to a 4.7gb blank.
AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core 5200+, 3GB DDR2-800
Gigabyte GA-M55SLI-S4, 160GB WD Sata & 200GB Sam IDE
MSI Nvidia Geforce 8600GT OC
WinXP x64 Pro SP2, (ASUS DRW1814BLT, ASUS DVD-E616P3)
V7 PS2 Duo3,V9 PS2 Duo2 SE & V12 PS2
X-Box V1.6 160Gig Softmod, XBox360 Modded MS25 & MS28
Xbox360 Modded 0078FK, Wii D2C Model UnMod
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13. December 2003 @ 22:25 |
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youre right, it wont fit, try removing portions of the movie sequences
that will shrink it up
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ShadoweX
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14. December 2003 @ 01:26 |
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Removing the demo folder in Brute Force will get you under the limit.
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WelshBoa
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14. December 2003 @ 04:49 |
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manutd> you would get more credit by spelling imbocele correctly!
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Scot
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14. December 2003 @ 07:42 |
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You will need to take out the demo movies, just delete the contents of the folder but leave the folder there. You can also remove the .xbe files related to live play you do not need them. Just keep the default.xbe file and delete the others.
I have this game backed up to a dvd no problem.
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14. December 2003 @ 07:50 |
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Ok i'll try than and tell you what happens if it reaches the size or not and this is for the brute force right? Cause i only see the demo folder in this game and none in t3
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ShadoweX
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14. December 2003 @ 07:54 |
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Yup.. do what Scot and I told you. I have this game backed up to DVD as well and it works fine.
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14. December 2003 @ 07:59 |
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Ok i removed the demos in the video folder and the extra .xbe files and left only the default and the size is now 4.81gb which is still too big you sure you haven't missed out something that i should remove?
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ShadoweX
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14. December 2003 @ 08:09 |
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Remove the FX, MECH, and VIDEO directories. There is also another xbe which I cannot recall the name of... but leave the default.xbe there.
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14. December 2003 @ 08:26 |
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Ok its with in the size now soo i'll try it and post to you if it works thanks a lot.
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14. December 2003 @ 12:41 |
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Ok guys thanks a lot the brute force worked great any help for the t3?
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14. December 2003 @ 20:50 |
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hey scott good thinking on the "live" thing, never thought of that:-)
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14. December 2003 @ 20:52 |
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I always thought most man. united fans were intelligent too....oh well
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