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socat
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5. December 2007 @ 13:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm planning to buy a D2CKey pre-modified PAL Wii early next year and I want to make sure I know how to do everything I want to do with it safely.
I've read a few different articles and forum threads about various problems and solutions.

Here is what I understand so far.
I should:
Use a high quality burner - I'll use Panasonic 115D.
Use high quality media - I'll use Verbatim DVD-R.
Burn at media's rated speed - I'll burn my 16X rated Verbatim DVD-Rs at 16X, not 4X or 1X.
Use Brick Blocker on non PAL games to avoid bricking my Wii.

Is this all correct? Is there anything else important that I need to know?

I still need to find out exactly what the story is with GameCube backups on the Wii.
I understand that they can be played, and I've heard that you can even put multiple games on one DVD, but I don't know the details.
Any info or links to articles detailing how it is done would be appreciated.

Are there any region issues with GameCube backups on the Wii? Will my PAL Wii be able to run NTSC GC backups?

GameCube controllers can be used for GameCube games of course, but can the Wii controller be used on GameCube games?
For example, can I use the Wii controller to aim in Metroid Prime 1 & 2 like in Metroid Prime 3?
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Thinone
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5. December 2007 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by socat:
I'm planning to buy a D2CKey pre-modified PAL Wii early next year and I want to make sure I know how to do everything I want to do with it safely.
I've read a few different articles and forum threads about various problems and solutions.

Here is what I understand so far.
I should:
Use a high quality burner - I'll use Panasonic 115D. - try it + see
Use high quality media - I'll use Verbatim DVD-R. - i use maxell
Burn at media's rated speed - I'll burn my 16X rated Verbatim DVD-Rs at 16X, not 4X or 1X. - mine are 16x - i burn at 4x with imgburn
Use Brick Blocker on non PAL games to avoid bricking my Wii. just update ur wii b4 playing new games - dont need to use it then plus it stops some games working - check compatability list to see if certain non region games actually work
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/index.php?title=...ility_List:_PAL

Is this all correct? Is there anything else important that I need to know? - read more posts - all these have been answered use search

I still need to find out exactly what the story is with GameCube backups on the Wii.
I understand that they can be played, and I've heard that you can even put multiple games on one DVD, but I don't know the details.
Any info or links to articles detailing how it is done would be appreciated.

Are there any region issues with GameCube backups on the Wii? Will my PAL Wii be able to run NTSC GC backups?

GameCube controllers can be used for GameCube games of course, but can the Wii controller be used on GameCube games? NO
For example, can I use the Wii controller to aim in Metroid Prime 1 & 2 like in Metroid Prime 3?
socat
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6. December 2007 @ 01:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Thinone:
Originally posted by socat:
Use Brick Blocker on non PAL games to avoid bricking my Wii. just update ur wii b4 playing new games - dont need to use it then plus it stops some games working - check compatability list to see if certain non region games actually work
http://wiki.gbatemp.net/index.php?title=...ility_List:_PAL



According to the How to protect from Region Brick guide, having the latest firmware for your region does not guarantee your safety...
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Example: Lets say a Japanese Wii has been issued a 2.2J update. They then release a revised firmware of that update but keep the main firmware number (2.2J)

In order to tell the Wii to update the new revised 2.2J firmware they would have to add some sort of rev # to let the Wii know that this update is a revised update of the original 2.2J firmware so it needs to be updated.

So if you have an NTSC(U) Wii system and have it updated to the 2.2U Wii firmware then play an NTSC(J) game disc with a revised firmware higher then what the USA firmware is then the 2.2J revised firmware will update over the 2.2U firmware causing a semi-brick/complete brick issue.

The problem now is that there is no way to tell if the firmware update that is being installed has been revised or not. (Use Wii brick blocker to protect your Wii from this situation)


I've done a search, and I still can't find any clear info about using backups of NTSC GameCube games on a PAL Wii.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. December 2007 @ 01:35

Thinone
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6. December 2007 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
there is nothing i have seen in writing to support this but the whole point of issuing new updates would be that each new update IS a REVISION hence will be called a later version.

i have not known a disc to be released that has a highter version update on it than is available for download from the internet

even mario galaxy only updates to 3.0 - i was already at 3.1 and had been for a few weeks when i got this
whacker
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6. December 2007 @ 13:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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According to the How to protect from Region Brick guide, having the latest firmware for your region does not guarantee your safety...


Indeed it doesn't. I had the latest update for the Wii and SMG updated it anyway. I didn't have a problem since I have the latest version of the wii-key but it can cause problems.
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Thinone
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6. December 2007 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it doesnt update it - just goes through the motions

if u brickblock it it doesnt go through the motions and it then doesnt work at all

if u werent up to date then it goes to 3.0
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