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8. December 2007 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey guys, I just got my 360 replaced and I'm hearing lots of different ways on how to go about identifying if you got a Falcon Board and Processor(s) some people say that all you have to do is look at your power supply and see if it is a 175W supply or the older one which is 203W power supply, but others discredit that and say it is not a definitive way to tell, other people say that you need to look at the Manufacturer date and lot number and team that made it. mine was made on 11-1-07 (I dont know the team or lot number...where do you get that info?) aside from opening the 360, how does one tell if they got the falcon or not?
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8. December 2007 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I found my lot number and build date and team info which are as follows:

Lot Number: 0744
Build Date: 11-1-07
Team: FDOU
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8. December 2007 @ 22:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the lot number is over 737 ther it's a Falcon. BTW I've seen 5 falcons and they all had the new power supply. I've seen a couple of new 360s that had slightly lower lot numbers that weren't falcons. They had old power supplies too. I know for sure, because I've opened up each one of them.
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8. December 2007 @ 22:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The new Xbox 360 Premium consoles (the consoles with free copies of Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance in the box) eventually started shipping with Falcon hardware, but these things needed to be in Lot 738 or greater. There are mixed results with lower lot numbers, but the newer the console, the greater your chances of getting a Falcon.

The next thing you'll want to confirm is the team, also located on the same sticker as the lot number. Team FDOU appears to be the most popularly associated with Falcons, at least in North America.




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8. December 2007 @ 22:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well then, given the above information I submitted to you all...then I'd say I have a Falcon...yes, yes?
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8. December 2007 @ 22:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks guys for your help. I have a lot 735, Team FDOU, 203 W power, what do you think, probably not a Falcon? I'm pissed, I just bought it too, like a month ago.
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8. December 2007 @ 23:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ARGUS_328:
well then, given the above information I submitted to you all...then I'd say I have a Falcon...yes, yes?
yes i think so


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8. December 2007 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by StanLane:
Thanks guys for your help. I have a lot 735, Team FDOU, 203 W power, what do you think, probably not a Falcon? I'm pissed, I just bought it too, like a month ago.
but these things needed to be in Lot 738 or greater

starlane you have older motherboard not a falcon:(


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9. December 2007 @ 00:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by neptune:
Originally posted by StanLane:
Thanks guys for your help. I have a lot 735, Team FDOU, 203 W power, what do you think, probably not a Falcon? I'm pissed, I just bought it too, like a month ago.
but these things needed to be in Lot 738 or greater

starlane you have older motherboard not a falcon:(
Thanks neptune, cool name by the way. lol just missed it, dammit, oh well. Hopefully, keeping it cool with a fan (like Ms reps suggested) will help.
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9. December 2007 @ 00:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lot 0737
Elite 360
Team FDOU

Falcon with BenQ

Got lucky I guess
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9. December 2007 @ 23:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
According to this site, it's 734 or above

http://forums.xbox.com/ShowPost.aspx?PageIndex=1&PostID=15804553

How to find a Falcon model 360 in stores

Based on the info in this thread, A Falcon model Xbox 360 MUST BE:

Lot #0734 (Halo 3) or later (all SKUs)

Manufactured on or after 8/24/07(An HDMI Premium manufactured on 8/19 has been reported as 65nm.)

Team FDOU (Other teams may be Falcon as well, but none have been reported)


Please note that getting a Falcon console is not guaranteed even if everything matches the above information. Only some new consoles are Falcon, and no Falcon refurb consoles have been reported.
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9. December 2007 @ 23:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
StanLane the only way to tell if you have a falcon is open up the case :)


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9. December 2007 @ 23:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Neptune, can you F it up lol if you open it up? Do you have to remove crap to tell? or just open the case?
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9. December 2007 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well u have to open the case then remove a couple of screws to see the motherboard :)


how to open case (btw they make a special tool to open it. i just used a pointy screwdriver.best bet is to get the tool it will be much easier :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXwXC1IE_ck

how to tell if you have a falcon or not

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3152&p=4


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9. December 2007 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Neptune, you're the man!! Look on my other post about the cooling system, let me know if you think it will work.
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11. December 2007 @ 13:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey guys i just want to help everyone regarding the falcon chip. i just buy a new 360 pro last friday Dec 7 2007 this what i got
lot number 741. mnf 2007/10/10, team FDOU, 203W. i dont know if its a falcon, because it has 3 ring copper coil but a BENQ drive
take note not all 360 release mnf september up to now is a falcon. there is no good chance, that you will get a falcon regardless if its the arcade the pro or elite. I scoutng the store for 2 months for 175W but there is no luck, but what i can tell you the new 360 that i buy is much
cooler, i played it 7 hours the day after i buy,and the console is still
cool, there is no loud sound you can hear, it is smooth sound like a ps 2 its not like a jet engine sound.there is a warm moisture coming out from the back of the fan..its about 70 degree after 7 hours.
for what i have experience just buy 360 now,, it might be a falcon or what ever. its defend how you use your 360,have common sense when playing 360 put your console in an open space so their is much cooler
if you dont have
AC put a fan near the 360 so it makes more cool. second dont over use the 360 like playing 20 hours..let it rest every 3 hours for 15 min,, untill the 360 cool down. and dont mod the 360. drive dont tweak the console. if its broken send it to MS..one more thing xbox 360 is expensive so take care your investment... good luck and have fun playing 360
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14. December 2007 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it true that the new 65nm Falcon chips eliminate the RROD permanently?
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14. December 2007 @ 07:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
poolpro

No, that is not true.


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15. December 2007 @ 00:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Steimy is correct....but poolpro....alot of people believe that it is a giant step forward to getting this overheating problem resolved...Even water cooling has the potential to get the 3ROD, wouldnt everybody agree? but with the falcon chipset...is it 100% guaranteed that your not gonna get the 3ROD?....the answer is "No"
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15. December 2007 @ 01:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ARGUS_328:
Steimy is correct....but poolpro....alot of people believe that it is a giant step forward to getting this overheating problem resolved...Even water cooling has the potential to get the 3ROD, wouldnt everybody agree? but with the falcon chipset...is it 100% guaranteed that your not gonna get the 3ROD?....the answer is "No"
oh ok. I also heard that a newer 360 is also coming out some time next year that will guarantee the elimination of the 3ROD. I read that from XBox.com forums.I have just registered to have mine repaired but haven't received their e-mail yet and it has been like 3 hours since I made the order.How long does it usually take to receive their e-mail?

Thanks in advance.
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15. December 2007 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi guys just wondering, If you have the new heatsink does it mean you have the falcon? I have looked to see if I have the new heatsink and I do but I have no idea if I have the falcon because I dont have the box for my 360 so I cant check what lot it is.


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