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#Ed
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7. December 2003 @ 22:41 |
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I have just tried to do a copy of Pirates of the Caribbean and Bruce Almighty using Shrink DVD and Nero to burn and both of the films play lovely till you get to within ten mins of the end of the film then it goes tits up (jumping forward)!!
I did the Pirates to 4.6gb size and Bruce to Just over 4gb so it didnt run too near the end of the disk to get the same problem
I have read so many threads on this forum i'm confused???
Can anyone please help me??
If you want more info please ask as i'm still new to all this
Thx :(
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Bodene
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7. December 2003 @ 23:56 |
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First of all, you shouldn't try to burn anything onto a DVDr that's larger than 4.37gb. They say they are 4.7gb, but that's using a different scale than Windows uses to identify file size.
As for your skipping problem....try these:
1) Change yer media. Cheapo media will have issues near the end of the flick, as well as other problems too numerous to mention here. Use a name brand quality media like Maxell, Ritek, TDK etc.
2) Record the DVDr at a slower speed. Some burners don't do well at 4x. Try 1x.
There is no problem so big, that a brick placed against the proper skull cannot fix =)
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 00:25 |
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Thx m8, the dvd+r disks i am using are Packard Bell!! I take it they r crap??
Plus the second film i copied was about 4.2gb why wasnt that ok?
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koola
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8. December 2003 @ 00:38 |
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Packard Bell are not the best media to use but you can use them if you just make the final DVD file size 4.3GB or under.
If you always do this, the end will not get choppy or freeze.
PS, you can set DVD Shrink to output your chosen size by clicking on Edit / Preferences then select Custom under Target DVD Size and then put in your chosen DVD file size.
Once this is done, every time you compress a DVD, it will compress upto your chosen DVD file size. Easy!
Good Luck :D
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 00:42 |
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The second film i copied was about 4.2gb why wasnt that ok though? It was under 4.3????
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malum
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8. December 2003 @ 00:44 |
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If the media is really crappy it doesn't matter how small you make the files it won't play correctly.
I have some very poor Princo -RW that skip and jump from any point in the movie.
Just buy something decent.
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koola
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8. December 2003 @ 00:46 |
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That could of being the media, but it is most likely a buffer-under run. Make sure buffer-under run protection is enabled on your DVD drive (If suported).
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 00:49 |
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Thx lads i will try again with some better disks!!
:)
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malum
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8. December 2003 @ 00:51 |
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It's nothing to do with buffer underrun and everything to do with crap media
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 00:54 |
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LOL this is why you get confused with so many people with different ideas!!
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malum
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8. December 2003 @ 01:01 |
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You have to ask yourself whether it's worth buying cheap media and having to compress all your movies to under 4.2GB or if you want to spend a bit more and not have to worry about it.
Buffer underruns should not even figure if you have a fast hard drive and a decent burner set up correctly. (especially as they all have buffer under run protection anyway)
A buffer underrun would terminate the burn and knock out a coaster
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koola
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8. December 2003 @ 01:03 |
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This is what you have to do:
1. Make sure Buffer-under run protection is enabled on your burner.
2. Make sure that your DVD file size is 4.3GB or under.
3. You have the latest ASPI drivers installed.
4. You burn with a good burning program like Nero etc.
Thats it, you should have no more problems.
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 11:32 |
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How do i find what ASPI driver ver i have and where do i get an update if needed??
:)
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malum
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8. December 2003 @ 12:00 |
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koola
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8. December 2003 @ 12:01 |
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baabaa
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8. December 2003 @ 21:29 |
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Just curious and not meaning to get anyone confused......but why is it necessary to update/download the ASPI drivers???????
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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malum
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8. December 2003 @ 23:06 |
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Windows XP doesn't come with them.
I have no idea why
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#Ed
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8. December 2003 @ 23:19 |
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I'm just doing wot all you good people tell me to try!! And yes XP doesn't have them!! Wot do they do?
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koola
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9. December 2003 @ 06:46 |
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#Ed, ASPI drivers are used for an interface between your DVD drives etc and your DVD software. These are important files which make all the difference when backing up DVDs.
Good luck :D
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#Ed
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9. December 2003 @ 08:45 |
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I have installed them now so lets hope they help!!
Thx to everyone for your help :)
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baabaa
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9. December 2003 @ 09:44 |
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Yes I know XP does not have them but it still leaves a void in my mind....
It may be because the O/S is setup to utilise the standard of other proggies.....but I do not know.......
I have XP and backup dvd/ps2 games with no issues at all......
I do not have any ASPI on my system in any form and yet I keep reading all these recommendations to update/download the latest versions of ASPI....
Why does everyone recommend this, what exactly does it solve by doing it?
Koola..
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ASPI drivers are used for an interface between your DVD drives etc and your DVD software. These are important files which make all the difference when backing up DVDs.
I clearly do not need the ASPI, I understand what you are saying regarding the interface etc....but they are not important for me and I am trying to find out exactly what the contrast is between ASPI/ATAPI and why when doing something via ATAPI does not work but when loading ASPI it cures it......
Sorry for rambling, I should really start a new thread........
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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#Ed
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9. December 2003 @ 10:40 |
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If you want to ramble BaaBaa then carry on m8
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#Ed
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9. December 2003 @ 10:41 |
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I aint got a f**kin clue
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koola
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10. December 2003 @ 03:41 |
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Many programs now come with ASPI drivers of their own like Nero etc, but many still do not.
This is why the ASPI layer is so important as it the main layer used on your system from audio to DVD etc.
You mentioned ATAPI, this is another useful layer which does not get the credit it deserves. You may have programs which will work fine on ATAPI, but many users (New to DVD) do not.
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what the contrast is between ASPI/ATAPI and why when doing something via ATAPI does not work but when loading ASPI it cures it
ATAPI is another layer which manages the hardware side of thing while ASPI is a driver layer managing the communications between hardware and software. ASPI is the better layer and the most used layer in DVD technology, like when you rip a DVD or burn a DVD etc.
If I was you Baabaa (I wish I was a sheep, baa), I would install ASPI and open your computer up to better data handling, quicker software responces and more.
ASPI is a must!
Cheers :D
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baabaa
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10. December 2003 @ 11:37 |
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Koola
Thankyou for that detailed answer....you are the only one to elaborate a little on this..
That makes a little more sense now.......the ASPI is based on SCSI standard so therefore transfer speed is controlled by the software and not the actual devices (hardware managers) and I can see the advantages in data rate transfer in terms of audio/video/multi-layered streams etc........
However it still gives me headblag with reference to my own PC....
Everything runs like a bullet dvd backups from start to finish 40-45mins....
On the fly burning - dvd/ps2/cd etc.....no issues, no buffer under runs etc.....
All utilising the original setup within XP (ATAPI) and no ASPI in sight........
Am I just lucky........?
I agree with you regarding updating to the ASPI system and 'open your computer up to better data handling, quicker software responces and more'.
But do I need to....
I believe that XP is setup for the software it is going to run to invoke the softwares 'own' layering system etc.....
And with that I also think that because there are so many ASPI layers floating around....when you have slightly different ones on the same PC then this in itself could invoke conflicts.......do you think maybe?
I shall be sticking with my ATAPI setup until there is a need for me to update to ASPI.....at the moment I cannot see the point (for me ) to do it.....as I do not see where I would benefit........
Thanks for your input.....nice to see some people are on the ball rather than just following the crowds........(no offense intended to anyone)....cheers Koola
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down
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