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eyenight
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22. January 2008 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
We have a family wii, but i'm moving to japan for a bit soon and i really don't want to have to buy all our games again so i'm looking to buy a premodded wii - which should i get and where should i get it from? If possible I'd like to buy it from a site where they also give you the option to purchase and have installed a customised case...

It's also important that it can play gamecube and wii back-ups from all regions (<--- not too knowledgable in that area) - i really don't want any restrictions on it

Also are there any risks regaurding firmware - ie could updating my wii in the future end up disabling the chip?

Finally, are any chips better than others, eg i heard the company behind wiikey wasn't going to release updates anymore?

Sorry, its quite a few questions, but i would really appeciate your advice ^^
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eyenight
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23. January 2008 @ 05:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can someone please help me out?
eyenight
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23. March 2008 @ 11:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it would really help if anyone could awnser any of my qs >.<
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23. March 2008 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bought my premodded wii from Sell.com

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23. March 2008 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eyenight:
It's also important that it can play gamecube and wii back-ups from all regions (<--- not too knowledgable in that area) - i really don't want any restrictions on it
Aside from a small list of games any modchip is going to be able to play any game from any region. A more pressing concern in the firmware updates in games. If its from an out-of-region game (dosent match the wii's region) then it could brick the console. Theres no worry of this if the game is from the same region as the console though. Theres also ways around it, brickblocker and others.


Originally posted by eyenight:
Also are there any risks regaurding firmware - ie could updating my wii in the future end up disabling the chip?
Anything is possable. I'm sure that if nintendo figured out how to make an update disable a mod chip they'd do it in a heartbeat. But as of yet they havent been able to and dont seem likely to manage it in the near future.


Originally posted by eyenight:
Finally, are any chips better than others, eg i heard the company behind wiikey wasn't going to release updates anymore?
Generally newer chips are better, but you also have to get one compatable with the wii. If its a new wii then the infectus 2 is supposed to be good. For an older one maybe a cyclo or even wiikey is fine. Just do some research on the chip u'r getting and make sure it can do everything u want from it.
eyenight
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23. March 2008 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for actually properly awnsering my thread, i really appreciate it ^^

Im confused about the region thing, basically i live in the uk where 90% of wii games suck, but there are tons of american and japanese wii games i want - what are the limits of region on a modded wii?
The chip I've researched the most is the argon chip - and isn't there this thing where you can get 3 extra wires installed to increase region capabilities?

Also, do you know anywhere I can buy a wii with a mod chip and custom case pre-installed?

Thanks again!
eyenight
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23. March 2008 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been researching some more and the new wasabi chip looks the best, what do you guys think about it - is it as good as it makes itself out to be?
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23. March 2008 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eyenight:
I've been researching some more and the new wasabi chip looks the best, what do you guys think about it - is it as good as it makes itself out to be?
It's not the best - there are plenty of threads discussing modchips in this section and you can browse to read those.

Infectus 2 is the best, then Argon then Wasabi or D2Pro.

You talk about generally wanting flexibility and the most options you can have as well as staying safe. There is only one way to do that and that is to learn about the chip you choose and everything else involved including region bricking, Wii firmware updates, burning disks and plenty more. IMHO this can take at least a few days to get a good grounding in all the ideas and it's necessary to maintain continued interest in staying current with developments and news. There is no "buy, fit, configure and then just enjoy" ideal. Many ppl seem to think there is - in fact that's just about everybody who is new to modding their console, whatever it is. Just so you know where you are going with this ;)

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eyenight
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23. March 2008 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah i understand what you're saying, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to get to grips with everything, wouldn't even know how to install the chip myself lol >.<
i have a modded ps2, and everything's simple with it, i've had no problems at all - yes I understand that they have had the chance to develop chips a lot longer and are thus more advanced - but there must be a chip for the wii that can run backup games from all regions, only requiring an update occasionally in case newer games have more protection / conflicts with firmware...
so if i get a chip installed i will monitor the manufactorer's site for updates, and if i have the hot-rock case installed then I should be safe when it comes to overheating... that should be enough shouldn't it? I worry that the argon chip (and others made by that company) may be too complex for me, with it's wierd way of updating through the cable thing (<--- see my knowledge on that area sucks lol) - as I know nothing about programming or anything... thats why wasabi seemed like a safer choice
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23. March 2008 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Installing yourself isn't neceassary and I doubt it'll be easier with a wasabi than the argon. Updates will be required regardless of the chip but for sure Argon is more future proof. As far as staying current - it doesn't matter what chip you have in - The issues that come up are not all chip related but they do occur because ppl are chipped :)

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23. March 2008 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by eyenight:
yeah i understand what you're saying, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to get to grips with everything, wouldn't even know how to install the chip myself lol >.<
i have a modded ps2, and everything's simple with it, i've had no problems at all - yes I understand that they have had the chance to develop chips a lot longer and are thus more advanced - but there must be a chip for the wii that can run backup games from all regions, only requiring an update occasionally in case newer games have more protection / conflicts with firmware...
so if i get a chip installed i will monitor the manufactorer's site for updates, and if i have the hot-rock case installed then I should be safe when it comes to overheating... that should be enough shouldn't it? I worry that the argon chip (and others made by that company) may be too complex for me, with it's wierd way of updating through the cable thing (<--- see my knowledge on that area sucks lol) - as I know nothing about programming or anything... thats why wasabi seemed like a safer choice
A Wii modchip that you are describing above does not exist.

No Modchip is 100% region compatible. As well all chips that provide region free capabilities have the same compatibility. The only way to raise that compatibility is by using newer programs that can patch the Game further changing video code etc. etc and that can get a bit complicated if your not willing to learn.

The same goes for semi-brick/brick issues with imports. No Modchip can protect you from this. The only protector of avoiding a region brick is you yourself! Again this is not possible if your not willing to read and learn on how to protect yourself from this.

So I would recommend doing as juniR has suggested and spend a while in this forum and other forums learning what and what not to do when having a Modchip installed.

It is far from being as easy as the PS2 is. Allot more complexity in the Wii Modscene.

As for the best modchip to get. I also would recommend Infectus 2/Argon/D2Pro. Using a Jtag programmer to update is better then using a DVD update. A DVD update is limited in what settings it can change. Where a Jtag programmer based Modchip can be redesigned from bottom up and completely be reprogrammed if need be in the future. This making those types of Modchips future proof.

Never know when Nintendo might throw a curve ball and the only way to get around that is by reprogramming the modchip all together and Wasabii could fall short if this ever becomes the case.

Plus using a programmer is easy. All you have to do is connect the programmer to flat cable. Connect USB cable from PC to Programmer and open up the program on PC. Load the update file and Click program then sit back and watch the previous firmware be erased the new firmware be writen and varified and that is it.


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eyenight
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30. March 2008 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for all your advice, i ordered a wii premodded with an argon chip with all the needed stuff for the jtag programmer ^^
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