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Xvid/divx streaming problems SOLUTION!! - certain files wont play!!!!
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okboz
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30. January 2008 @ 16:52 |
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Hi, as most are probably aware, the PS3 will not play all xvid/divx files and it is hit and miss as to which ones play (streaming)
Here is a run down of the files i have found so far that will not stream directly to my ps3 through windows media player 11.
BE PATIENT THOUGH, I DO HAVE A FAST SOLUTION!!!
VIDEO 1)
Video stream
Frame size: 640 x 464 (29.97fps)
FourCC code: (DX50) DivX5
Decompressor: DivX 5.0.5 Codec
Dat Rate: 101kbps
Audio Stream
Sampling rate: 44100Hz
Channels 2(stereo)
Audio Tag: MPEG-1 Layer 3(MP3)
Compression: Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec
Data Rate: 128kbps
VIDEO 2)
Video stream
Frame size: 512 x 384 (29.97fps)
FourCC code: (DX50) DivX5
Decompressor: DivX 5.0.5 Codec
Dat Rate: 901kbps
Audio Stream
Sampling rate: 44100Hz
Channels 2(stereo)
Audio Tag: MPEG-1 Layer 3(MP3)
Compression: Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec
Data Rate: 128kbps
VIDEO 3)
Video stream
Frame size: 688 x 384 (25.00fps)
FourCC code: XviD MPEG-4-Codec
Decompressor: XviD MPEG-4-Codec
Dat Rate: 1411kbps
Audio Stream
Sampling rate: 48000Hz
Channels 5(stereo)
Audio Tag: ATSC/A-52(Dolby AC3)
Compression: AC-3 ACM Decompressor
Data Rate: 448kbps
Video 3 will not play when copied to the harddrive (ive not tried one or two as of yet)
PLEASE POST YOUR OWN BELOW
IM NOT SURE IF MY SOULTION WILL FIX ALL FILES BUT IT HAS WORKED FOR ALL THREE OF THE ABOVE AND IS VERY FAST
I need to hear feedback from others with other problem files that do not work before posting an answer
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30. January 2008 @ 18:42 |
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I use WMP11 all the time and i havnt run into any problems yet.
Also why dont you just post your solution if it fixed yours.
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okboz
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31. January 2008 @ 05:05 |
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31. January 2008 @ 05:37 |
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This is from the official PS3 site.
Video
DivX and VC-1 (WMV) have been added to the types of files that can be played.*
Blu-ray Disc Profile 1.1 is now supported. **
[BD Data Utility] has been added. ***
* To play VC-1 (WMV) format files, you must go to Settings > [System Settings] and set [Enable WMA Playback].
- Copyright-protected files or files that were encoded by using DivX 3.11 cannot be played. - Files that are 2GB or more cannot be played.
** You may now be able to use the "Picture in Picture" feature that enables playback of two videos at the same time with Profile 1.1-compatible Blu-ray Discs. Available features will vary depending on the disc.
*** The management data that is used by the Blu-ray Disc is saved.
Notice the bold text.
So not all Divx files can be played.This should be fixed by future firmware updates.
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okboz
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31. January 2008 @ 05:57 |
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OK, so does that mean the files that wont work work on my PS3 shouldn't work or should they work?
There are two DivX5.0.5 files that wont play and an xvid mpeg-4 codec that wont play.
Should they play?
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31. January 2008 @ 06:03 |
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It just means that files that were encoded by using DivX 3.11 cannot be played.
THis site http://manuals.playstation.net/document/.../filetypes.html told me this.
The following types of files can be played under (Video).
Memory Stick Video Format
- MPEG-4 SP (AAC LC)
- H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Main Profile (AAC LC)
MP4 file format
- H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile (AAC LC)
MPEG-1 (MPEG Audio Layer 2)
MPEG-2 PS (MPEG2 Audio Layer 2, AAC LC, AC3(Dolby Digital), LPCM)
MPEG-2 TS (MPEG2 Audio Layer 2)
AVI
- Motion JPEG (Linear PCM)
- Motion JPEG (μ-Law)
AVCHD （.m2ts / .mts）
DivX
WMV
- VC-1（WMA Standard V2）
Hints
Depending on the data type, some files may not be playable or some control panel options may not function during playback.
Some video files distributed over the Internet have playback restrictions. For details, contact the content provider.
To play WMV format files, you must go to (Settings) > (System Settings) and set [Enable WMA Playback].
When using a USB adaptor to play video files, you may need to use a USB adaptor (not included) that supports copyright-protection features (to play copyright-protected files).
When using a USB adaptor to play AVCHD-format video files saved on Memory Stick? media, use a device that supports Hi-Speed USB (USB 2.0).
Files that were encoded using DivX 3.11 cannot be played.
DivX and WMV format copyright-protected files cannot be played.
DivX and WMV format files of file size 2 GB or larger cannot be played.
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okboz
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31. January 2008 @ 06:28 |
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Nice one marcusita, cheers for the info
at least that explains some of it and explains why my fix worked for those problem files. It doesn't help explain what was fixed though in the files for them to work, all in know is that they do work.
Heres what i did:
1) download and install virtualdub 1.5.10
2) Select file and open the problem video (it wont open everthing just DIVX and XVID i think, wont open microsfot ASF files)
3 Select video tab and direct stream copy
4) select file and "save as"
5) Enter a new file name in the box followed by .wmv e.g "name.wmv"
6 Save as Audio video interleave
thats it!!! the file will now play when streamd to the ps3, the ps3 recognises the codec as a VC-1(WMV) file and the original file will be a "wmv" file. It didn't recognise it before and would not play.
It takes about 1 minute to finish most films. If you dont rename the file .wmv in the file name it will save at as an AVI file automatically.
This will NOT play until you rename the file "name.wmv" or "name.avi"
Ive tried renaming the files before direct stream copy conversion and they dont work at all. Renaming the files wont make it work alone.
I cant expalin how the above works, but it works!!!!!
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31. January 2008 @ 06:31 |
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Cool,if i run into any problems i will try that out.
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31. January 2008 @ 06:32 |
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Let me get this right... You're saving the streams into an avi container and then changing the extension to wmv and it plays?!!
Looking at all the information about the top three files... The PS3 should play these without a problem.
I will admit I have no experience with streaming (I prefer to use discs or removable media) so I can't really comment from a knowledgeable standpoint but I do have PLENTY of experience gained from playing around with various audio/video media. I can't for the life of me understand why your above method works.
If indeed it does work, can't you just change the extension without running it through VirtualDub? If running it through VirtualDub is the key, it sounds to me that you had a corrupted avi container and you should be safe to leave it as avi after VirtualDub has repacked it.
I can see that you already answered my question but I am at a loss to understand why this is working for you.
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okboz
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31. January 2008 @ 09:20 |
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I'm saving the streams to an AVI container and then changing the extension to wmv or avi and they both play, either way works.
Before hand they will not play, i cant just change the extension without running them through virtual dub, ive tried and they don't work.
This is a strange problem but my method appears to fix the problem.
If i just rename the file with an .AVI extension, the ps3 wont list the codec when you press triangle and information, if i save the file with a .wmv extension, the codec is listed as VC-1(wmv)
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31. January 2008 @ 11:58 |
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Originally posted by okboz:
I'm saving the streams to an AVI container and then changing the extension to wmv or avi and they both play, either way works.
Before hand they will not play, i cant just change the extension without running them through virtual dub, ive tried and they don't work.
This is a strange problem but my method appears to fix the problem.
If i just rename the file with an .AVI extension, the ps3 wont list the codec when you press triangle and information, if i save the file with a .wmv extension, the codec is listed as VC-1(wmv)
Whoaaa, hold on... I think you just proved my point. I suggested that the stream was corrupt due to a badly packed avi, after running it through VirtualDub you said the file will play with either the avi or wmv extension. That strongly suggests to me that all that has happened is VirtualDub has repacked the avi correctly.
What reason would you need to rename the extension to wmv?
From your first post, it seems you are dealing with only DivX/XviD files, but then you go on to say that if you rename the file to wmv that VC1 codec is listed. That is a native codec used in wmv files, but it is completely impossible that the VC1 codec can decode DivX/XviD video. That would be like speaking French to a Japanese Man. The only possible logic I can see here is that Windows Media Player is disregarding the extension and selecting the right codecs at an elementary stream level. I'm pretty sure I have seen this happen before with WMP11.
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31. January 2008 @ 12:11 |
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Just to clarify things even further VirtualDub is an avi application not DivX/XviD exclusive. So that means that anything that is avi compliant can be opened, edited, transcoded, and saved into an avi container with VirtualDub. I am almost 100% sure that all you have done is repacked a bad avi container. You do not need to rename the extension to wmv at all.
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okboz
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1. February 2008 @ 05:54 |
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Like i said im not too sure how it worked but it worked. Im not familiar with codecs etc but maybe this did repack the original bad AVI container.
Maybe the original file was corrupt for streaming purposes in some way and virtuadub has repeired it.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 05:42 |
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Originally posted by okboz:
Heres what i did:
1) download and install virtualdub 1.5.10
2) Select file and open the problem video (it wont open everthing just DIVX and XVID i think, wont open microsfot ASF files)
3 Select video tab and direct stream copy
4) select file and "save as"
5) Enter a new file name in the box followed by .wmv e.g "name.wmv"
6 Save as Audio video interleave
any particular reason why you chose such an old version of virtual dub ? presumably this would work on a more recent version as well then ? from what i recall, virtual dub 1.5.10 was most famous for the vdub mod program that was packaged for a long time with ripping-encoding programs.
i'm off to try it and will report back seeing as none of my 150 xvid files work and they were all emcoded with XViD 1.3 and auto gordian knot.
i also read somewhere that the PS3 will not play avi files unless the resolution can be divided by 16 ( don't ask me why ) apparently XViD is dividable by 8 etc and this also causes problems so they say )
other reported problems are with q-pel, matrix fields, bit packed and GMC enabled encodings - this is what happens when an application (XViD) is made open source - too many variations of the same codec.
I agree that XViD produces better results than DiVX but what good is that in this case if it's not compatible with stand alones ? for the PS3 better toe ncode with DiVX which is a uniform industry standard and my S3 plays all my DiVX files.
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2. February 2008 @ 06:18 |
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Originally posted by domie:
other reported problems are with q-pel, matrix fields, bit packed and GMC enabled encodings - this is what happens when an application (XViD) is made open source - too many variations of the same codec.
I agree that XViD produces better results than DiVX but what good is that in this case if it's not compatible with stand alones ? for the PS3 better toe ncode with DiVX which is a uniform industry standard and my S3 plays all my DiVX files.
It is because of these advanced features that make the movie look better. If you stick to the DivX certification profile guidelines, ie: no qpel, GMC etc. then I would say that DivX and XviD are almost on par with each other.
You can still use these advanced features with the DivX encoder but they are outside of the certification parameters. I prefer the DivX encoder because of it's user friendliness and assurance of playability due to the profile certifications.
Domie, okboz's method will only work if the avi container is corrupt. VirtualDub will simply repack it (via direct stream copy). It will of course not remove the advanced features used to encode the file. Also, changing the extension to wmv will do nothing at all except confuse the player... lol! I am 100% sure of this.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 06:50 |
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I believe you mate, I was just scratching my head as to why my xvids don't work - don't see why as I didn't select any of the advanced options for XViD encodes but then again, maybe auto GK selected them for me automatically....there isn't an option to configure q-pel or GMC in auto GK.
Another bizarre PS3 quirk i discovered is that if you split an avi - ( DiVX)file ( using either vdub or avi demux 2.4 ) it will report the file as being corrupted and refuse to play it even if it played faultlessly before on the PS3.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 07:48 |
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OK I solved the problem and it was easier than I thought
1) Install Auto GK 2.48b
2) Load the file you want to convert in the program
3) Press CTRL + F9
you will now see the hidden advanced options window
4) In the last option on the right hand side, select "enable stand alone support"
5) Select "ESS" in the stand alone chipset options
You can now encode/re-encode an XViD file that will play flawlessly on your PS3
Bear in mind that if you have a pre-existing XViD file to re-encode and it is encoded with MP3 audio, you will have to demux and save the audio as a wave file with vdub and then save the XViD file with wave audio before you load the file in Auto GK - It won't re-encode a file with existing MP3 audio.
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2. February 2008 @ 07:59 |
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Originally posted by domie:
Bear in mind that if you have a pre-existing XViD file to re-encode and it is encoded with MP3 audio, you will have to demux and save the audio as a wave file with vdub and then save the XViD file with wave audio before you load the file in Auto GK - It won't re-encode a file with existing MP3 audio.
Why not just demux the mp3 file, let AutoGK do it's thing with the video only and then just remux the mp3 audio back into the new avi file? I see no reason to re-encode the audio.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 09:30 |
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Yup again I agree, that's the way I would prefer to do it and it's a better idea- the reason I mention re-encoding the audio with auto GK is because i've ended up with a lot of files that have fluctuating sync issues when doing that with auto GK and then using vdub or nandub to remux after video re-encoding with the original audio and sometimes the interleaving option hasn't corrected it at all as the out of sync timeline is not constant.
That might just be me being stupid though :P
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2. February 2008 @ 09:45 |
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You're not being stupid at all. Audio sync problems are very common. Although it's usually possible to fix it without re-encoding the audio.
If your audio is at a consistent out of sync timing (means that is doesn't get out of sync gradually), then you can use VirtualDub to pull the audio forward or push it back via the audio delay function. No need to re-encode video or audio here.
If it gradually goes out of sync (this is the harder one to fix!), you need to work with the frame rate to fix it all up.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 10:43 |
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Yup, I use the interleaving option in vdub to correct any out of sync files where the sync issue is constant and not variable but like I said...the finishing product from auto GK and vdub always results in an inconsistent out of sync problem and I don't have the patience to try skewering 20 different sections of the same file to correct all the sync inconsistencies lol
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2. February 2008 @ 11:06 |
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you don't have to skew 20 different sections... Just use AVIsynth, you just need to use AssumeFPS to get the video duration to match the audio duration then Change FPS to change the frame rate back to the original frame rate. Of course this method will insert duplicate frames or drop frames but it is the only way I found to be effective when dealing with gradual sync problems. You don't notice it when you are watching the movie. In the example below that would mean ONE duplicate frame for every 595 frames! Nothing to worry about at all.
Example AVIsynth script...
avisource("D:\yourvideo.avi")
AssumeFPS(24.958)
ChangeFPS(25)
This script will slow the video down gradually. If the AssumeFPS number is less then the original (ChangeFPS) then it will slow the video down, if it is greater then the original then it will speed it up. I usually need to load the script a couple of times into VirtualDub and with a bit of maths and some tweaking of the AssumeFPS number I get a perfectly synced video! :-D
Of course the above example was for PAL video source (25fps) but the above method can work for any material.
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domie
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2. February 2008 @ 19:20 |
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Thanks for the info- i'll take not of that ;)
As for PS3 compatible XViD encodes with auto GK - i'm giving up and switching back to DiVX ! I've discovered that although it produces compatible XViD encodes, it fails to reach the target setting size with stand alone compatibility enabled.
For example, I ask it to encode a file at 600 mb it turns out 450 mb ! If i ask for 500 mb it comes out at 325 more or less !! This happened when selecting original AC3 stream or transcoding to MP3.I give up.
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2. February 2008 @ 20:27 |
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Yes, the DivX codec is much more reliable. The codec produces excellent results now. I suggest using 2 pass encode with Extreme encoding mode on the second pass. Insane is the best but it is very slow so I usually use Extreme.
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