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ELSPA: DS is least profitable console thanks to piracy

article published on 31 January, 2008

The Entertainment & Leisure Software Publishers Association (ELSPA) has made a new claim that 90 percent of all North American Nintendo DS users play pirated games via the now infamous R4/M3 cartridge. John Hillier, manager of ELSPA's Intellectual Property Crime Unit, stated that the cartridge, which plays downloaded Roms via a microSD slot, harms sales for Nintendo and it has actually ... [ read the full article ]

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RNR1995
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3. February 2008 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am getting a little tired of the LIES of these corporations
PLEASE STOP PLAYING GAMES so these companies quit losing all this money!
PLEASE STOP WATCHING MOVIES so these companies quit losing all this money!
PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO MUSIC so these companies quit losing all this money!
PLEASE STOP USING PRPRIETARY SOFTWARE so these companies quit losing all this money!
GEE see how easy that is............
Now I will just run my Linux on my 5 year old PC, just watch TV and listen to the radio........HMMM I think that's what I do already! F the media mafia!
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3. February 2008 @ 21:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if anything, hardware sales would go up because of the R4.

i dont own a DS, but now that i know you can download roms, i'd be tempted to get one just because of this. but i'm not going to. i just dont feel like spending the money right now.

so am i hurting the gaming industry by NOT owning a DS and not buying the expensive crappy games??
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4. February 2008 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm all about pirating but people C'MON!!!!!!!!!!!

There needs to be some use of the brain by establishing a line sometime and somewhere.

Modding systems like the PS2, PS3, XBox 360 and all others is a big "F YOU" to everything that is good and true. First, it's going to an EXTREME EXTREME to alter your hardware to get something or EVERYTHING for free. In addition, the warranty is voided and often systems are busted by doing this and the RISK is always there. Second, don't people have enough integrity and fortitude to appreciate the notion of earning the money for a long-awaited and sought after game and THEN going out and buying it, opening the box and then playing it??

I mean I take some things for the pc but I BUY PLENTY TOO!

Took COD4 - going to buy for MP online
Bought RAINBOW 6 Vegas
Bought Doom 3
Bought FEAR
Bough FEAR Exp. Pack
Took FEAR Perseus mandate.

People are just constantly showing that they're worthless leaches who should be hung because they contribute NOTHING TO SOCIETY and take take take, therefore, if you contribute nothing then you're useless. If you're useless then the world has no need for you and may you die a quick lonely death because you won't be missed.

Key word here people....................IN-TEG-RI-TY. It's what makes the world go 'round.
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4. February 2008 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by SuperXL:
if anything, hardware sales would go up because of the R4.

i dont own a DS, but now that i know you can download roms, i'd be tempted to get one just because of this. but i'm not going to. i just dont feel like spending the money right now.

so am i hurting the gaming industry by NOT owning a DS and not buying the expensive crappy games??

No...........you're hurting society with you painfully lame misunderstanding of how the world works. Procreation should be outlawed for you and others that think the way you do. How sad!
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4. February 2008 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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No...........you're hurting society with you painfully lame misunderstanding of how the world works. Procreation should be outlawed for you and others that think the way you do. How sad!
i guess you were too stupid to comprehend what i was saying. please re-read the post, and try to get more of an understanding of what i said. what i said was that i'd be tempted to get a DS because of the R4. but i have no intention of getting a DS/R4 or anything related to it. that is what you were supposed to understand. and since i do not plan to get a DS, does that mean i'm hurting the industry?

i'm not supporting piracy. and at the same time i'm not contributing to the game industry's recent string of disapointments. how does that hurt society? if i choose not to spend my hard earned money on something that will disappoint me, and i choose not to steal anything, then who does that hurt?

outlaw procreation for people who think like me? wrong. there's nothing sad about people who are sensible, responsible and choose not to waste their money on something useless or ultimately disappointing.
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4. February 2008 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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No...........you're hurting society with you painfully lame misunderstanding of how the world works. Procreation should be outlawed for you and others that think the way you do. How sad!
i guess you were too stupid to comprehend what i was saying. please re-read the post, and try to get more of an understanding of what i said. what i said was that i'd be tempted to get a DS because of the R4. but i have no intention of getting a DS/R4 or anything related to it. that is what you were supposed to understand. and since i do not plan to get a DS, does that mean i'm hurting the industry?

i'm not supporting piracy. and at the same time i'm not contributing to the game industry's recent string of disapointments. how does that hurt society? if i choose not to spend my hard earned money on something that will disappoint me, and i choose not to steal anything, then who does that hurt?

outlaw procreation for people who think like me? wrong. there's nothing sad about people who are sensible, responsible and choose not to waste their money on something useless or ultimately disappointing.
Rereading changes nothing about your comment...............MY LAST REMARKS STANDS............in fact...........it stands STRONGER THAN EVER NOW!!!! HA HA HA
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4. February 2008 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And your credibility is SHOT now that you have labeled yourself as sensible and UGGGGGHHHHHHHHH.............."responsible". I guess the temptation of buying one solely because you can jack games falls under the "responsible" category. If I had to guess your age, I'd say ..................Hmmmmmm..............under 25. No procreation for you!!
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4. February 2008 @ 17:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you're still not understanding the point i'm trying to make with the question i brought up. you're probably not even trying, but whatever. i was not looking for credibility. just simply stating that there's better things to waste hundreds of dollars on. and you guessed wrong.
hm577
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4. February 2008 @ 18:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just yankin' your chain! No harm no foul mate. Sorry for misjudging.
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22. February 2008 @ 15:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Where is the research to back up this outragoues bunch of numbers.
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23. February 2008 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After reading this article, I feel like actually buying a Nintendo DS now! lol. I didn't know that this existed until Nintendo complained about it! Thank you Nintendo for giving R4 publicity. More people pirating roms with R4 = more hardware sales anyway (since R4 stimulates interest in buying a DS) so just how much is Nintendo losing in profit anyway? The only ones who should be complaining are the non-first party software publishers and developers for DS games since whatever Nintendo loses in software sales, they make up for with increased hardware sales. Nintendo should be greatful that pirates actually want to buy their hardware now.

Also piracy was a much bigger problem with GBA than NDS so I don't understand why DS piracy is such a big deal for them. Most people didn't buy a GBA to pirate games, they just got an emulator like VisualBoyAdvance. Not long after the GBA was out, they a emu released quite quickly that ran just about every GBA Rom perfectly. GBA Roms were also small and very easy to obtain online. NDS Roms are easy to find too but there isn't a reliable emulator for one yet so Nintendo isn't as screwed by piracy since at least people are buying the hardware to play the roms.

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29. July 2008 @ 18:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's no way there is more piracy on the DS than on the PSP you don't even have to buy extra stuff to play iso's on it, there's only a few people who I know with psp's that aren't hacked and that's just because they almost never use them for anything but a giant mp3 player.
 
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