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article published on 4 February, 2008
Following Sony's recent decsion to create a line of Greatest Hits titles for the PlayStation 3 in Japan, the electronics giant has been quoted as saying that will most "likely" do the same for the European market.
In the past, Sony has re-released hit tiles under its Platinum or Greatest Hits line which gives the games a new lease on life at a very discounted price.
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4. February 2008 @ 17:20 |
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Set the price to 29.99 and you might even sale them....
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Set the price to 29.99 and you might even sale them....
how they can even release a "greatest hits" line when there have only been a few games for the machine completely bewilders me but if it is a platinum line max charge should be $20.
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in order to have a greatest hits line you must first have a line to pull from?
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Did any of you actually bother to read the article ?
- " it is likely we will do so in the future for PS3 "
- " no decision has been made yet on timing or line up "
Why this should "bewilder" anyone is beyond me - seems very clear they are talking about an unspecified future date.
It's completely illogical to criticise them on the strength of current games availability for the PS3 - wait until they announce the actual date and line up before you start criticising them. It could be 12 or 24 months down the line - who knows ?
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cheaper games! this is good news!
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greatest hits is a good thing. maybe they'll have them out by the time i can afford a ps3.
of course, i'll probably buy one right before they finally have an actual price drop on the consoles.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Set the price to 29.99 and you might even sale them....
how they can even release a "greatest hits" line when there have only been a few games for the machine completely bewilders me but if it is a platinum line max charge should be $20.
greatest hits line knocks 15-20$ off the launch price, it really should be 19-29, cheap games sell consoles.
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its funny how you say they have no line up when xbox and ps3 have the same titles with a few exclusives yet ps3 isnt profitting off it do to lack of consoles sold meaning less people buying games...i think the ps3 has potential but needs a better online setup and a controller with a rumble pack here in the states they havent hit yet...but i'm sure ps3 will see some titles this year...if not wasted potential......
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Originally posted by b18bek9:
its funny how you say they have no line up when xbox and ps3 have the same titles with a few exclusives yet ps3 isnt profitting off it do to lack of consoles sold meaning less people buying games...i think the ps3 has potential but needs a better online setup and a controller with a rumble pack here in the states they havent hit yet...but i'm sure ps3 will see some titles this year...if not wasted potential......
Now that they have dealt with the price (at the cost of BWC) even without BWC the PS3 can only go uphill from here, the 360 is close to falling off hill...
The WII will maintain.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Now that they have dealt with the price (at the cost of BWC) even without BWC the PS3 can only go uphill from here, the 360 is close to falling off hill...
The WII will maintain.
cheap games are always welcomed and great news but calling it a "greatest hits" is laughable at the moment and the foreseeable future, but this just seems like complete rhetoric from sony to me, because of the latest official news that sony have hiked up the cost of ps3 games to recoup costs from the over priced console!
http://kotaku.com/352084/sony-recouping-...ware-price+hike
Originally posted by above link:
Sony Recouping Hardware Losses Through Software Price-Hike
scee.jpg Late last year, SCEE pushed a new 40GB model of the PS3 onto the European and Australian markets. Around the same time, the recommended retail price of Sony's first-party titles - which had since launch been slightly cheaper than those from third-parties - quietly went up, in Britain by a few pounds, in Australia by AUD$10. In case you couldn't previously put two and two together, one is the result of the other. SCE Australia (a subsidiary of SCEE, so it stands to reason the decision came from Europe) boss Michael Ephraim:
...as is well documented, PS3 has been a very expensive console to produce and sell. The losses are public knowledge. About six months into the year we realised we needed to increase our revenue on software to be honest. We're still in line with third parties, and it was just a business decision regarding profitability.
then you have 3rd party game prices being inflated by retailers but i suppose if its aright for sony to raise prices so will the retailers but when its in direct competition with the 360 imho, not a good move!
http://kotaku.com/350479/blame-retailers...ay-cry-4-prices
Originally posted by link:
Blame Retailers for Higher PS3 Devil May Cry 4 Prices
nero-devil-may-cry-4.jpg So some UK retailers are charging as much as ten extra quid for the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4. Why's it more expensive than the Xbox 360 version? Both versions look pretty much the same. What gives?! Says a Capcom spokesperson:
We don't set the prices of our games, that's at the discretion of the retailer. In this specific instance, the process has resulted in a price difference, but the process itself is not something we completely control.
That sucks, but there it is.
btw ZippyDSM you do know that Backwards compatibility is just a software trick don't you, it bares little on the cost of the PS3 just as the different hard drives, have very little difference in price to purchase, and is just a tool used by sony to dupe the customer into believing that a price hike or sku variants are justified @ $100+ more!
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006378.html
Originally posted by link:
Why, if an unverified memo turns out to be correct, will Sony really drop its $600 80GB PS3 and the only currently available version that lets buyers play PS2 games?
Maybe they aren't. Maybe they're planning to introduce a $300 model and add PS2 compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they're in fact planning to discontinue a really dumb idea (making PS2 compatibility a buy-time decision) and add software compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they'll even offer a system update to buyers of the existing 40GB model that up-flashes their systems.
You know PS2 compatibility is just a software trick in the 80GB model, right?
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Now that they have dealt with the price (at the cost of BWC) even without BWC the PS3 can only go uphill from here, the 360 is close to falling off hill...
The WII will maintain.
cheap games are always welcomed and great news but calling it a greatest hits is laughable at the moment and the foreseeable future but this just seems like complete rhetoric from sony to me because of the latest official news that sony have hiked up the cost of ps3 games to recoup costs from the over priced console!
http://kotaku.com/352084/sony-recouping-...ware-price+hike
Originally posted by above link:
Sony Recouping Hardware Losses Through Software Price-Hike
scee.jpg Late last year, SCEE pushed a new 40GB model of the PS3 onto the European and Australian markets. Around the same time, the recommended retail price of Sony's first-party titles - which had since launch been slightly cheaper than those from third-parties - quietly went up, in Britain by a few pounds, in Australia by AUD$10. In case you couldn't previously put two and two together, one is the result of the other. SCE Australia (a subsidiary of SCEE, so it stands to reason the decision came from Europe) boss Michael Ephraim:
...as is well documented, PS3 has been a very expensive console to produce and sell. The losses are public knowledge. About six months into the year we realised we needed to increase our revenue on software to be honest. We're still in line with third parties, and it was just a business decision regarding profitability.
then you have 3rd party game prices being inflated by retailers but i suppose if its aright for sony to raise prices so will the retailers but when its in direct competition with the 360 imho, not a good move!
http://kotaku.com/350479/blame-retailers...ay-cry-4-prices
Originally posted by link:
Blame Retailers for Higher PS3 Devil May Cry 4 Prices
nero-devil-may-cry-4.jpg So some UK retailers are charging as much as ten extra quid for the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4. Why's it more expensive than the Xbox 360 version? Both versions look pretty much the same. What gives?! Says a Capcom spokesperson:
We don't set the prices of our games, that's at the discretion of the retailer. In this specific instance, the process has resulted in a price difference, but the process itself is not something we completely control.
That sucks, but there it is.
btw ZippyDSM you do know that Backwards compatibility is just a software trick don't you, it bares little on the cost of the PS3 just as the different hard drives, have very little difference in price to purchase, and is just a tool used by sony to dupe the customer into believing that a price hike or sku variants are justified @ $100+ more!
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006378.html
Originally posted by link:
Why, if an unverified memo turns out to be correct, will Sony really drop its $600 80GB PS3 and the only currently available version that lets buyers play PS2 games?
Maybe they aren't. Maybe they're planning to introduce a $300 model and add PS2 compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they're in fact planning to discontinue a really dumb idea (making PS2 compatibility a buy-time decision) and add software compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they'll even offer a system update to buyers of the existing 40GB model that up-flashes their systems.
You know PS2 compatibility is just a software trick in the 80GB model, right?
BWC in the 60GB unit is not a software trick,but it was aided by it because they skimmed on it to start with.
Still better than the 360s attempt at it even the raped 40/80GB PS3 units....
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
cheap games are always welcomed and great news but calling it a greatest hits is laughable at the moment and the foreseeable future but this just seems like complete rhetoric from sony to me because of the latest official news that sony have hiked up the cost of ps3 games to recoup costs from the over priced console!
nobrainer, the "greatest hits" line up is designed to extend the shelf life of a game. After it has sold a specific number of copies (600,000 in 1 year for the PS2) then it will qualify for this, creating more sales so therefore generating more profit from each title. This news is based on forward thinking. Any successful business must have a strategy for the future. The only negative thing I could say is that the article is stating the obvious. Of course we will see a "greatest hits" or "platinum" (as it's known in the PAL regions) line up but who knows when?
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by nobrainer:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Now that they have dealt with the price (at the cost of BWC) even without BWC the PS3 can only go uphill from here, the 360 is close to falling off hill...
The WII will maintain.
cheap games are always welcomed and great news but calling it a greatest hits is laughable at the moment and the foreseeable future but this just seems like complete rhetoric from sony to me because of the latest official news that sony have hiked up the cost of ps3 games to recoup costs from the over priced console!
http://kotaku.com/352084/sony-recouping-...ware-price+hike
Originally posted by above link:
Sony Recouping Hardware Losses Through Software Price-Hike
scee.jpg Late last year, SCEE pushed a new 40GB model of the PS3 onto the European and Australian markets. Around the same time, the recommended retail price of Sony's first-party titles - which had since launch been slightly cheaper than those from third-parties - quietly went up, in Britain by a few pounds, in Australia by AUD$10. In case you couldn't previously put two and two together, one is the result of the other. SCE Australia (a subsidiary of SCEE, so it stands to reason the decision came from Europe) boss Michael Ephraim:
...as is well documented, PS3 has been a very expensive console to produce and sell. The losses are public knowledge. About six months into the year we realised we needed to increase our revenue on software to be honest. We're still in line with third parties, and it was just a business decision regarding profitability.
then you have 3rd party game prices being inflated by retailers but i suppose if its aright for sony to raise prices so will the retailers but when its in direct competition with the 360 imho, not a good move!
http://kotaku.com/350479/blame-retailers...ay-cry-4-prices
Originally posted by link:
Blame Retailers for Higher PS3 Devil May Cry 4 Prices
nero-devil-may-cry-4.jpg So some UK retailers are charging as much as ten extra quid for the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4. Why's it more expensive than the Xbox 360 version? Both versions look pretty much the same. What gives?! Says a Capcom spokesperson:
We don't set the prices of our games, that's at the discretion of the retailer. In this specific instance, the process has resulted in a price difference, but the process itself is not something we completely control.
That sucks, but there it is.
btw ZippyDSM you do know that Backwards compatibility is just a software trick don't you, it bares little on the cost of the PS3 just as the different hard drives, have very little difference in price to purchase, and is just a tool used by sony to dupe the customer into believing that a price hike or sku variants are justified @ $100+ more!
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006378.html
Originally posted by link:
Why, if an unverified memo turns out to be correct, will Sony really drop its $600 80GB PS3 and the only currently available version that lets buyers play PS2 games?
Maybe they aren't. Maybe they're planning to introduce a $300 model and add PS2 compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they're in fact planning to discontinue a really dumb idea (making PS2 compatibility a buy-time decision) and add software compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they'll even offer a system update to buyers of the existing 40GB model that up-flashes their systems.
You know PS2 compatibility is just a software trick in the 80GB model, right?
BWC in the 60GB unit is not a software trick,but it was aided by it because they skimmed on it to start with.
Still better than the 360s attempt at it even the raped 40/80GB PS3 units....
the european 60gig PS3 had software emulation from the outset, the same as current USA 80gig, unlike the the USA/Japan 60gig versions that had the PS2 chip and full 100% backwards compatibility!
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Now that they have dealt with the price (at the cost of BWC) even without BWC the PS3 can only go uphill from here, the 360 is close to falling off hill...
The WII will maintain.
cheap games are always welcomed and great news but calling it a greatest hits is laughable at the moment and the foreseeable future but this just seems like complete rhetoric from sony to me because of the latest official news that sony have hiked up the cost of ps3 games to recoup costs from the over priced console!
http://kotaku.com/352084/sony-recouping-...ware-price+hike
Originally posted by above link:
Sony Recouping Hardware Losses Through Software Price-Hike
scee.jpg Late last year, SCEE pushed a new 40GB model of the PS3 onto the European and Australian markets. Around the same time, the recommended retail price of Sony's first-party titles - which had since launch been slightly cheaper than those from third-parties - quietly went up, in Britain by a few pounds, in Australia by AUD$10. In case you couldn't previously put two and two together, one is the result of the other. SCE Australia (a subsidiary of SCEE, so it stands to reason the decision came from Europe) boss Michael Ephraim:
...as is well documented, PS3 has been a very expensive console to produce and sell. The losses are public knowledge. About six months into the year we realised we needed to increase our revenue on software to be honest. We're still in line with third parties, and it was just a business decision regarding profitability.
then you have 3rd party game prices being inflated by retailers but i suppose if its aright for sony to raise prices so will the retailers but when its in direct competition with the 360 imho, not a good move!
http://kotaku.com/350479/blame-retailers...ay-cry-4-prices
Originally posted by link:
Blame Retailers for Higher PS3 Devil May Cry 4 Prices
nero-devil-may-cry-4.jpg So some UK retailers are charging as much as ten extra quid for the PS3 version of Devil May Cry 4. Why's it more expensive than the Xbox 360 version? Both versions look pretty much the same. What gives?! Says a Capcom spokesperson:
We don't set the prices of our games, that's at the discretion of the retailer. In this specific instance, the process has resulted in a price difference, but the process itself is not something we completely control.
That sucks, but there it is.
btw ZippyDSM you do know that Backwards compatibility is just a software trick don't you, it bares little on the cost of the PS3 just as the different hard drives, have very little difference in price to purchase, and is just a tool used by sony to dupe the customer into believing that a price hike or sku variants are justified @ $100+ more!
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006378.html
Originally posted by link:
Why, if an unverified memo turns out to be correct, will Sony really drop its $600 80GB PS3 and the only currently available version that lets buyers play PS2 games?
Maybe they aren't. Maybe they're planning to introduce a $300 model and add PS2 compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they're in fact planning to discontinue a really dumb idea (making PS2 compatibility a buy-time decision) and add software compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they'll even offer a system update to buyers of the existing 40GB model that up-flashes their systems.
You know PS2 compatibility is just a software trick in the 80GB model, right?
BWC in the 60GB unit is not a software trick,but it was aided by it because they skimmed on it to start with.
Still better than the 360s attempt at it even the raped 40/80GB PS3 units....
the european 60gig PS3 had software emulation from the outset, the same as current USA 80gig, unlike the the USA/Japan 60gig versions that had the PS2 chip and full 100% backwards compatibility!
Like I said the US60GB unit,sorry the euro 60GB unit was dropped so fast I dun remember it, or I should say proper BWC was dropped so fast, Sony did screw a lot of people out of hardware and money by screwing us out of proper BWC to save them a few bucks on each console made as well as inflate the global regional price in a money scheme to double profit of it.
But the global regional price scheme is merely business raping the consumer sony is not alone in this, the BWC is no worse than the 360s and the 360s hardware failures are almost worse, pick your demon and worship him well he will devour you the same never the less.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
I know this is a very anti-sony, pro-microsoft website, but greatest hits are based on sales and all those sold over a million copies.
It may seem that way but it's not. It's only a few individuals that look for every opportunity to trash Sony. Everyone has a right to an opinion. Some share them more frequently than welcomed. Some people in life see the positive in a situation while others do not.
See my post earlier in this thread. :-)
I am a proud PS3 owner and if you want to see more Pro Sony/PS3 threads, see here... http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/153
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I didn't mean to imply that everyone was anti-Sony, just that they anti-Sony people are as you said, very vocal.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
I didn't mean to imply that everyone was anti-Sony, just that they anti-Sony people are as you said, very vocal.
The loading issue has more interesting look at DMC4 and how they handled it, still one dev trying something different is not enough to bash on it the PS3 is evolving well but slowly in software, I really wish they would go ahead and move up to the 4X BR I would like to see better BWC but they can;t even make games I am willign to spend 60$ on so I must suck :P
but still ail better hardware would quicken PS3 sales IMO.
as for MS...good god what a mess....... its a fair system but unlike the 360 its not gaining value as it ages.....
and the WII is a gimmick......freaking mainstreamized industry is pooing out sub par mainstreamized games....
oooo zippy ranting again...I need more fiber in my diet 0-o
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I didn't mean to imply that everyone was anti-Sony, just that they anti-Sony people are as you said, very vocal.
The loading issue has more interesting look at DMC4 and how they handled it, still one dev trying something different is not enough to bash on it the PS3 is evolving well but slowly in software, I really wish they would go ahead and move up to the 4X BR I would like to see better BWC but they can;t even make games I am willign to spend 60$ on so I must suck :P
but still ail better hardware would quicken PS3 sales IMO.
as for MS...good god what a mess....... its a fair system but unlike the 360 its not gaining value as it ages.....
and the WII is a gimmick......freaking mainstreamized industry is pooing out sub par mainstreamized games....
oooo zippy ranting again...I need more fiber in my diet 0-o
http://www.gamefly.com/
save you money, use that or something else to rent video games and save your money. personally, I rent games I'm not sure on and buy games that I find I like or I know I will like. A faster drive for the ps3 would help and better foresight by microsoft and a real system by ninetendo (if i want a work out, I will go to a gym. but if I get a wii I want to play games, devs need to understand that).
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
I didn't mean to imply that everyone was anti-Sony, just that they anti-Sony people are as you said, very vocal.
The loading issue has more interesting look at DMC4 and how they handled it, still one dev trying something different is not enough to bash on it the PS3 is evolving well but slowly in software, I really wish they would go ahead and move up to the 4X BR I would like to see better BWC but they can;t even make games I am willign to spend 60$ on so I must suck :P
but still ail better hardware would quicken PS3 sales IMO.
as for MS...good god what a mess....... its a fair system but unlike the 360 its not gaining value as it ages.....
and the WII is a gimmick......freaking mainstreamized industry is pooing out sub par mainstreamized games....
oooo zippy ranting again...I need more fiber in my diet 0-o
http://www.gamefly.com/
save you money, use that or something else to rent video games and save your money. personally, I rent games I'm not sure on and buy games that I find I like or I know I will like. A faster drive for the ps3 would help and better foresight by microsoft and a real system by ninetendo (if i want a work out, I will go to a gym. but if I get a wii I want to play games, devs need to understand that).
Sorry I wont waste a penny on a crappy game its the only way I can effect any change in the system as manute as it may be.
As for the WII I have nothing against the WII mote,when properly dev'd for its a great controller so its not the problem its the games or lack there of, then again looking at the industry as it is......
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if it is a crappy game, then by all means don't rent it. that isn't what I was suggesting. then again I had forgotten that you, Zippy, think all games suck and everything should go back to the 2d top down days of nostalgia.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
if it is a crappy game, then by all means don't rent it. that isn't what I was suggesting. then again I had forgotten that you, Zippy, think all games suck and everything should go back to the 2d top down days of nostalgia.
More like more focus on gameplay and level design than art direction and shallow physics, and how dose one know its a crappy game until one plays it reviews are worthless now adays.
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You don't listen to one review, you look at multiple reviews to piece together the truth, you look at reviews from people who bought the game and piece together the truth from that as the only people that will review it will either love it or hate it. If it looks promising, rent it, if it looks to be great, buy it, if it looks to be crap, ignore it.
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Originally posted by wetsparks:
You don't listen to one review, you look at multiple reviews to piece together the truth, you look at reviews from people who bought the game and piece together the truth from that as the only people that will review it will either love it or hate it. If it looks promising, rent it, if it looks to be great, buy it, if it looks to be crap, ignore it.
Not when 90% of reviewers drool over a game like Bioshock and Halo 3 and it winds up as another mediocre game after you play it....
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You are being intentionally difficult Zippy. If you don't like a game, fine, you are entitled to your opinion. I don't care for fps' myself and never got into the whole Halo craze and Bioshock didn't seem interesting to me. But to say they aren't good games when so many say otherwise, tells me that you either have bad taste (definitely a possibility since you hate most new games) or you don't like fps games and you are just complaining to complain.
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