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Next-gen format war is officially over
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article published on 16 February, 2008
First reported by the Japanese public broadcaster NHK and later confirmed by Toshiba itself, the next-gen format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray is finally over, with Toshiba planning on stopping production of HD DVD players.
The battle, which has raged on for the last couple of years, has often been compared to the Betamax-VHS battle of the MID 1980's and has slowed down the development ... [ read the full article ]
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Puksi
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16. February 2008 @ 14:30 |
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Great news! \o/
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16. February 2008 @ 14:32 |
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As an owner of an XBOX 360, I sure do hope that microsoft does come out with an attachment for the 360 to play blue-ray discs.
But then again... It would still be nice to have both a PS3 and a 360.
I'm sure there will be a lot of pissed off consumers that have spent a fair chunk of change on the attachment, and now it will become obsolete.
Oh well, might as well spend twice as much and have both!!
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16. February 2008 @ 14:35 |
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Originally posted by philixir:
Oh well, might as well spend twice as much and have both!!
Exactly. Remember that there are over 500 HD DVD titles available so it isnt as if all is lost :)
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AXT
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16. February 2008 @ 14:45 |
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Finally. In the end people who purchased HD-DVD are SOL. What different outcome would have been if M$ had included a HD-DVD standard in their box? Guess we will never know.
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16. February 2008 @ 14:49 |
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What different outcome would have been if M$ had included a HD-DVD standard in their box? Guess we will never know
I don't think that would've mattered much. It was a strategy game by both Camps. Consumer response had little, if anything, to do with it.
*sighs*
Makes me wanna dust off the old BetaMax...
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nobrainer
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16. February 2008 @ 14:58 |
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MPAA Pro DRM lobby backed, anti consumer laden blu-ray becomes the format chosen by Hollywood what a surprise.
lets count the days until we see any more bogof (buy one get one free)offers from the blu-ray camp or 6 free and such like!
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trexxus
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16. February 2008 @ 15:04 |
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I bought my HD DVD player a little over 3 months ago and might have 6 movies or so.I guess that I can use it to upconvert my dvds but that kinda sucks that Toshiba is throwing in the towel but I kinda seen it coming.
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m3_chris
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16. February 2008 @ 15:10 |
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
lets count the days until we see any more bogof (buy one get one free)offers from the blu-ray camp or 6 free and such like!
If they plan to take on standard DVD next I would suggest they continue to do so!
How soon will we see paramount movies now that their contract with HD-DVD is probably void?
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16. February 2008 @ 15:28 |
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Hasnt the format war really been over since CES when the HD-DVD camp had nothing to show? Either way I am glad I have not bought into either format, hopefully stand alone bluray players will drop in price soon and I will finally be able to pick one up!
Off topic, any bets on how many bans this thread will produce?? I say 4 :)
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16. February 2008 @ 15:50 |
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the wrong format won again screw Sony!
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Ludikhris
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16. February 2008 @ 15:51 |
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I think that it would have been a totally different story if the 360 had the HDDVD built in. Sure 360 sales would have been much lower (yes they would, don't argue, it would have been way more money to make). However it would have made this war take a lot longer because there would have been tons more HDDVD disc sales. The way this whole thing worked PS3 was able to tip the disc sales in BR's favor. If you only counted discs bought by those that owned by standalone owners I am guessing HDDVD would have been way ahead.
Good strategy won BR the prize. It was not just Hollywood choosing, it was both them Sony buying a small handful of companies allegiance (Toshiba did this too) and the consumer simply buying more BR discs than HDDVD.
Time to move on guys.... I will be buying more BR discs for my PS3 now. I hesitated and only bought 2 because I wanted to see how this whole thing panned out. Glad it went in my favor. BR is not less consumer friendly as many have claimed. I put a disc in my PS3, I watch a movie in 1080p with crystal clear audio, objective met.
If HDDVD would have won it would have just cost me a couple hundred more in a new player thats all. That's all it means for those that need to go to BR now. It isn't the end of the world.
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16. February 2008 @ 15:52 |
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Good riddance.
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axemurder
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16. February 2008 @ 16:14 |
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Originally posted by arcanix:
Good riddance.
NICE
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16. February 2008 @ 16:17 |
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FINALLY time to move on and cut the crap it's over and thats it :)
It doesn't matter which ship sank as long as one of them did. So lets hope BR is ready to take on downloads.
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hughjars
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16. February 2008 @ 16:22 |
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Blu-ray will win the PS3 market but that's about all IMO.
The true a/v mass-market is simply not interested in a game console @ $400/£300.
Sadly if HD DVD has bowed out (and there is still no official word) then it merely means optical disc based HDMs are stuck in the niche.
Blu-ray doesn't even have a proper stand-alone player at the full spec yet - never-mind a decent range of players & prices.
Don't expect them this year either
(if the profile 1.1 delays and the Denon comments & delays are anything to go by).
I'd also add a word of warning to current HD DVD owners planning on dumping their stuff.
My selfish side says 'go ahead' sell me the lot, I'm very happily still buying.
But my more altruistic side says 'stop and think about this guys'.
There is no guarantee that all your exclusive HD DVD movies will ever appear on Blu-ray.
Some sales on HD DVD were low and provide little incentive for anyone to risk the cost of Blu-ray transfer & production.
Just something to think about.
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Craftybox
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16. February 2008 @ 16:23 |
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Never thought i would hear this but it was due...
well done to Blue ray , i thought it was over when they released the BR player with the ps3.
remember the public never choose blue-ray , it was a game of chess
and the movie studios were the pieces.
UL to anyone who brought HD DVD, only good thing there DVD will be really cheap :D lol
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iamgq
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16. February 2008 @ 16:46 |
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Originally posted by arcanix:
Good riddance.
Too funny...
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16. February 2008 @ 16:57 |
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I still don't understand why everyone thinks this was a Sony vs. MS or PS3 vs. 360 war. It was 2 formats supported by a handful of companies on each side and a lot of "tweeners".
On the flipside, if this story comes to fruition and HD-DVD is "sunk" then I think Sony is grinning from ear-to-ear at how many people are going to find the "extra value" they've been squawking about with the PS3 having Blu-Ray playback. I see the PS3 coming down in price, but the stand alone boxes sticking around or above the cost of a PS3 so they can effectively shove more systems in houses and persuade more movie studios and game publishers to flock to the PS3, giving Sony more royalties in the end, and stagnating creativity and competitiveness.
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16. February 2008 @ 17:16 |
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Hopefully this will be followed up with an announcment from Universal and Paramount stating that they'll start production of BD movies soon. Glad to see this format war coming to an end and now hopefully with a clear format the industry can move forward more quickly. I agree with some of you that Sony & Co. need to hurry up and finish the BD profiles standards. For now I will stick with my PS3 as my BD disc player until the profile is worked out.
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atomicxl
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16. February 2008 @ 17:30 |
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Well, until stand alone players are $150 or less, torrents will be my HD format of choice. Sony sells out of spec players for like $500+. Now that they are the only people out there, i'm guessing in-spec players will be $150 around 2011.
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16. February 2008 @ 17:56 |
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Consumers lost!
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domie
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16. February 2008 @ 18:11 |
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Originally posted by Dela:
Consumers lost!
They lost by choosing and expressing their preference ?
No matter how many claims, counterclaims, arguments, rumours of insider deals etc , at the end of the day - from Warner to Netflix to Target to Wal-Mart, all clearly stated ( and could prove it with sales figures ) that they went for blu ray because that is what the majority of the people buyng these discs wanted. Even in the states more blu ray discs were sold than HD-DVD despite the price of hardware and number of HD_DVD machines shifted. 81 % of all High Def discs sold in Europe have been blu ray since the beginning and it is over 90 % in Japan and Asia.
I think what you mean to say is that HD-DVD supporters lost, if they didn't sell enough discs to keep the retailers interested whose fault is that ?
If the consumer lost then the consumer chose to lose and that doesn't make sense to me and neither do I believe it.
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16. February 2008 @ 18:15 |
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Quick question what about the people that got HD-DVD players over the holidays and mail out for the 5 Free Movies are we just SOL.
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16. February 2008 @ 18:17 |
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This is why I wait a while before buying one format over another. I cant imagine how pissed all the people that bought hd-dvd players. Oh well.
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DoomLight
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16. February 2008 @ 18:22 |
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good thing i didnt buy the attachment. but who cares.
the movies still cost to much in my opinion and regular DVD
has many years left on its lifespan.
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