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Next-gen format war is officially over
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article published on 16 February, 2008
First reported by the Japanese public broadcaster NHK and later confirmed by Toshiba itself, the next-gen format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray is finally over, with Toshiba planning on stopping production of HD DVD players.
The battle, which has raged on for the last couple of years, has often been compared to the Betamax-VHS battle of the MID 1980's and has slowed down the development ... [ read the full article ]
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bib1234
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17. February 2008 @ 14:01 |
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Originally posted by arcanix:
Good riddance.
very nice
--JB--AKA bib1234
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vinny13
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17. February 2008 @ 14:04 |
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Paramount and Universal can't do much if they're running out of major stores to sell their movies... They may have not said much but they'll probably at least go dual-format for a year and then just stop production. That makes sense.
For the anti-consumer stuff, only a rich pirate would care, or just some rich guy that makes home movies on Blu-Ray :P
The profile stuff is pretty lame, but the PS3 seems to be avoiding it as it just got a 1.1 update and probably a 2.0 in the future, so I don't care.
Are the movies really that much cheaper? Like, I understand now with them losing (as it seems) and the sale signs, but last time I checked at the local malls and wal-marts around me, many of the HD-DVD movies were more expensive then BR lol
Oh and isn't it the other way around? I thought the PS3 was driving Blu-Ray :P
Ok, 1 more thing. About this DVD vs. Blu-Ray you keep on bringing up... How could you even say that when not everyone owns HDTVs? And then when people buy HDTVs they're usually offered a Blu-Ray player as it plays both formats in 1080P and makes the store more money. As more and more people learn about it, the more popular it will get, and eventually prices will fall. I guess what I'm trying to say is, Blu-Ray will eventually replace it, just not anyime soon(as it looks so far).
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In December 2005 the Commission decided to examine the issues concerning the two formats.
The investigation showed that the market is experiencing a format war based on the merits of the competing formats. In such circumstances, the Commission does not believe that it is its task to take sides in the format war between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. The Commission will therefore not interfere in competition for exclusivity contracts currently experienced on the market for new formats and will not second guess the technical choices of film studios.
Now I'm going to pick at this comment a little..
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competition for exclusivity contracts
Nowhere does that say that multi million dollar kickbacks are acceptable..
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the technical choices of film studios
Seems the only "technical choice" was who is prepared to pay the most to ensure consumers don't get a level playing field on which to base a choice..
I find anti competitive actions by both sides, but the DRM and sony's deep pockets have swayed the issue..
Consumers lose, and I have emailed my MEP with facts about these payments by the hd-dvd group and sony with my complaint about anti-competitive and anti-consumer behaviour.
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
get ready for pay per film as soon you will no longer own movies you will purchase licences to watch them 5 or so times then have to pay up again.
you may also find the like sony is doing with PSN content that it will be locked to 1 account or one device.
Wrong. You REALLY need to stop consistently spewing inaccurate and misinformation. You CAN copy/transfer download-able games & titles on up to 5 DIFFERENT PS3's
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Jack Tretton told the GameLife blog before the PS3 launch:
"You can send that content to four other friends for that initial investment," said Tretton. "We want to get the game in as many hands as possible. It's not about generating profits at each and every interaction with the consumer. I think that really offsets the argument that says, 'Wow, that's a really pricey system.'"
This is a perfect example of why I try to stay out of the news posts and especially BD vs HD type threads, since there is no point in even trying to have a discussion as people only seem to want to bash something for some lame reason and when they are shown to be absolutely wrong they ultimately are never willing to admit they are/where wrong! They totally disregard anything that was said and just shift to another point in an attempt to further prove their point which has failed. Seriously, let it go already man. Move on and please do some PROPER research before handing out false information as if truth. You are not helping anyone and are only confusing people for some reason I cannot fathom.
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Originally posted by vinny13:
Paramount and Universal can't do much if they're running out of major stores to sell their movies.
- I think you'll find that on-line sales are the preferred choice for the early adopter with this media anyways.
It's the one way of getting it at anything like a sensible price, always has been and now undoubtedly always will be.
Originally posted by vinny13:
They may have not said much but they'll probably at least go dual-format for a year and then just stop production. That makes sense.
- Does it?
In fact they have not said anything except that are continuing to support HD DVD.
If HD DVD production costs are low to start with and they have already paid & the discs in production anyways why would they just drop production?
That in fact doesn't make sense.
They would surely look to maximise their return on their existing investment(s)?
With over 450 HD DVD titles in western markets (& IIRC 800+ worldwide) why should they just drop production?
It would be different if HD DVD production required new & expensive lines (:P) but it does not.
If anything the demand for their titles could well go up, people like myself will not stop buying and have a large catalogue (and it has to be said one with a lot of cinema classics) to continue to choose from.
Originally posted by vinny13:
For the anti-consumer stuff, only a rich pirate would care
- You have obviously never bought and legitimately paid for a piece of regular new PC kit only to find that the DRM in the software you wish to legitimately use it with has not been updated and will not allow you to use the part(s).
You can be kept waiting a long time for updates to do what you have properly paid for.
To pretend that DRM only affects 'pirates' is a flat-out lie and the more complicated it all gets the more compatbility issues and problems we encounter.
Bet you complain about Vista for this.....or is it somehow different when it comes to Microsoft
(or should that be M$, hmmmmm)?
Originally posted by vinny13:
or just some rich guy that makes home movies on Blu-Ray
- The inability of Blu-ray stand-alones to play BD -R & BD -RE discs is hardly something only home movie enthusiasts will be bothered about.
But it is funny how they are keeping that side of Blu-ray as quiet as they can.
Once people find out it is not just a 'bigger better DVD' they will start to turn right off of the idea & stop going anywhere near it.
You can laugh at this idea all you like but the huge DVD burner & blank media sales support my view, not yours.
Originally posted by vinny13:
The profile stuff is pretty lame, but the PS3 seems to be avoiding it as it just got a 1.1 update and probably a 2.0 in the future, so I don't care.
- That's great if you want a game console.
Lots of a/v enthusiasts will never go for a game console to play their movies.
It's also such a waste
(and a growing number of people do give a damn about this even if the PS3 gang don't).
125w - 195w energy consumption compared to a stand-alone's typical 25w.
Originally posted by vinny13:
Are the movies really that much cheaper?
- I have been getting mine at $14 - $19 recently & some UK sales at £12, including delivery.
That works out to close to or less than what I'd have to pay on a new big release DVD.
Originally posted by vinny13:
Like, I understand now with them losing (as it seems) and the sale signs, but last time I checked at the local malls and wal-marts around me, many of the HD-DVD movies were more expensive then BR
- Combos discs were more expensive for a while but generally speaking and comparing like with like that was simply not true.
Originally posted by vinny13:
Oh and isn't it the other way around? I thought the PS3 was driving Blu-Ray
- You seem to be misunderstanding me.
More PS3 sales = more Blu-ray players in the PS3 niche.
No matter how much you want to imagine otherwise the game console segment the PS3 occupies is tiny compared to the wider a/v market.
Huge numbers of many people's parents and grandparents (assuming they are still around and compus mentis) have DVDs, they do not have PS2s or PS3s and never will have.
That is the extent of the real & vast mass-market Blu-ray is IMO unlikely in the extreme to ever reach.
Originally posted by vinny13:
Ok, 1 more thing. About this DVD vs. Blu-Ray you keep on bringing up... How could you even say that when not everyone owns HDTVs?
- All you're doing there is high-lighting a weakness in the Blu-ray possibilities.
Blu-ray must either ultimately stay in the niche or try and over-take DVD.
The speed of the uptake of HD TV merely adds to Blu-ray's problems (as does the fact that 'HD on your HD TV all the time' TV services witha DVR are ensuring that the kind of market DVD had isn't even there for Blu-ray to have anymore anyways.
Originally posted by vinny13:
And then when people buy HDTVs they're usually offered a Blu-Ray player as it plays both formats in 1080P and makes the store more money.
- This is pure fantasy.
They were trying to give away (profile 1.0) Blu-ray players recently.
Nevertheless there is no indication that anybody but Sky HD & some cable suppliers are profiting from the bulk of HD TV sales presently.
Originally posted by vinny13:
As more and more people learn about it, the more popular it will get, and eventually prices will fall.
- You have that absolutely the wrong way around.
Prices have to fall sharply before too many take the slightest bit of interest.
The sad truth high def enthusiasts have a problem with grasping is that they are not typical and not everyone agrees with their priorities or POV.
It's obvious that the general public are not in the slightest bit interested in high def or the new audio standards, not at the cost they come at.
'Most people' do not have the audio kit required (and never will have) and are not fussed about paying for the image quality they often discribe as being little differnt to upscaled DVD.
But given that the majority of HD TV sales are in the 32" - 50" range it's no surprise that they do not find the difference in image quality 'worth' the several hundred pounds/dollars expected for the player nor do they show the slightest bit of interest in paying high prices for the movies when they can get a much bigger selection of SD DVD movies at a fraction of the cost.
It's not about there being 'no difference' clearly there is; it's about too many people not caring to pay a lot of money for what they see as a minimal difference.
Originally posted by vinny13:
I guess what I'm trying to say is, Blu-Ray will eventually replace it, just not anyime soon(as it looks so far).
- Well you won't be surprised to hear that I couldn't disagree more.
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17. February 2008 @ 15:51 |
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Meh,I'm not gonna bother... You have some sort of comeback for everything :P
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hehehe.. nicely done there hughjars ;)
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17. February 2008 @ 16:17 |
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This so called "format war" was bullshit from the beginning. It just became fashionable in the biased media to bash Sony/Blu-ray and hype the war and promote unrealistic hope for HD DVD. It is not always a good thing that on the Internet all kinds of amateurs can publish and act as a "journalist"...
Blu-ray camp was simply much stronger to begin with. It was a David vs Goliath deathmatch and the Goliath wins more than 9 times out of 10.
The real "war" is to push another plastic disc format to become mainstream. The benefits of Blu-ray (or HD DVD) vs. DVD are evolutionary, but definitely not revolutionary. Disc as a physical medium is not the most practical one, so it may well be that Blu-ray will never achieve the success of DVD. Solid state technology is evolving fast, and so are download based solutions.
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17. February 2008 @ 16:32 |
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Well done sony you have won the war thanx to the ps3 having blu-ray built in, a massive strategy that has killed hd-dvd. You may have won the disc format war but as long as microsoft are about, you will have trouble winning a console war again. Sony don't have much power compared to microsoft. What we need to kill sony is for nintendo and microsoft to join forces and the final touches would be sega coming back to join.
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17. February 2008 @ 16:47 |
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Originally posted by vinny13:
Paramount and Universal can't do much if they're running out of major stores to sell their movies... They may have not said much but they'll probably at least go dual-format for a year and then just stop production. That makes sense.
When Toshiba does make an announcement I expect Paramount and Universal to reveal their BluRay plans within one to two weeks.
Paramount has a distinct advantage since they have already released on BluRay. They may even have one or two titles hidden in a warehouse somewhere (Blades of Glory?).
OTOH Universal has never released on BluRay and is aboout 2 years behind the other studios in terms of development. There's word that some of their encodes can be ported directly to BluRay but others may have to be re-encoded. The good news is that they have the overhead to go higher on their bitrates.
As eatsushi and juankerr pointed out in another thread I also hope that they release the BD version of American gangster in the Extended Cut version instead of just the theatrical cut.
Regarding the antitrust controversy: I remember reading somewhere that because both sides are not just one company - the BluRay Disc Association (BDA) VS The DVD Forum/HD DVD Promo Group - any antitrust action becomes more complicated and in the end may even be futile. In contrast, Microsoft was alone in its actions so the antitrust charges against them were easier to prosecute.
It's also possible that Toshiba will apply to become a member of the BDA when they decide to manufacture BD-capable players. Once that happens the issue becomes muddier.
As juankerr also pointed out, we're dealing here with art distibution which is a "voluntary medium of entertainment."
Bottom line is, in my view, both sides decided to play dirty right from the start.
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17. February 2008 @ 18:12 |
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Originally posted by UkWizard:
Well done sony you have won the war thanx to the ps3 having blu-ray built in, a massive strategy that has killed hd-dvd. You may have won the disc format war but as long as microsoft are about, you will have trouble winning a console war again. Sony don't have much power compared to microsoft. What we need to kill sony is for nintendo and microsoft to join forces and the final touches would be sega coming back to join.
OMG if Nintendo were to "join forces" with M$ I would probably die :P
That would be horrible... With M$ track record of ruining possibly good things with horrible errors and such, I couldn't see it. Nintendo on the other hand, 1 being a company that gives out free stuff, it just doesn't go together...
I just got my 4 Wii controller gloves or whatever. I don't even have 4 controllers :P
As for the 360(nevermind Vista, I like it but just WAY too many problems with it), I can't say much since I don't have one nor want one, but my friends have some kind of new problems every day... From random cannot read errors and flashing screens with wierd noises to explosions(lol that guy's a retard anyways, I guess you can ignore that one :P). One of my friends have come to the conclusion that the post office sees his Xbox more then he does, which is kinda sad. At least they're fixing it all for free. And if they don't then you can always scam Wal-Mart :P
I can agree with you on one thing though, if SEGA were to come back, I would also die. SEGA rules, although I wouldn't know how they could pull it off since many of their recent games have been pretty gabbage(even Sonic was a huge let down). Although, maybe if it was for their own console, their games would be better?
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17. February 2008 @ 19:32 |
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Originally posted by UkWizard:
Well done sony you have won the war thanx to the ps3 having blu-ray built in, a massive strategy that has killed hd-dvd. You may have won the disc format war but as long as microsoft are about, you will have trouble winning a console war again. Sony don't have much power compared to microsoft. What we need to kill sony is for nintendo and microsoft to join forces and the final touches would be sega coming back to join.
Yeah then the Nintendo Wii 2 can get the "red ring of death" failure too :-)
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17. February 2008 @ 20:28 |
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BD+ will not effect real piracy at all. i noticed along time ago that "they" usually have a dvd rip on bt sites weeks before anyone here(afterdawn) has even got a copy of the movie to try and rip. case in point, saw4.i watched it on my pc almost a month before anyone posted a question on "how to rip" here at ad. "they" are definitly not using slysoft or fentango thats for sure. the pro's will cut through BD+, like a hot knife through butter. the only people that are going to be hurt by BD+ is the average consumer. the blu-ray camp needs to drop BD+ and the high prices if they want to be around in the future. if not, then this is what i see in my future----alot of downloading.
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Originally posted by UkWizard:
Well done sony you have won the war thanx to the ps3 having blu-ray built in, a massive strategy that has killed hd-dvd. You may have won the disc format war but as long as microsoft are about, you will have trouble winning a console war again. Sony don't have much power compared to microsoft. What we need to kill sony is for nintendo and microsoft to join forces and the final touches would be sega coming back to join.
Yeah then the Nintendo Wii 2 can get the "red ring of death" failure too :-)
The day nintendo bring out a machine with real graphics and proper hd will be the day when sega comes back. To be honest I think the wii will be the last nintendo console. What's the point in buying a wii if all they bring out is mario or zelda.
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From what i can tell BD+ should be fully cracked by the boys at Slysoft by the time it hits the market in full force lol
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I'm glad to see that the stupid war is over.
It's nice to see that the corporations and such have decided on a format, but I'm very angry that all the consumers are still not in agreement.
For those of you saying that the people that support and want blu-ray are less intelligent, you are complete idiots. We know the facts already, or will quickly discover them. It's not like we're going to stay in the dark about all the negatives for centuries to come. But worse things have happened and we have overcome them. Piracy will never stop and even then the need to back things up will never stop either. We should be focusing on the media at hand, BD+. But if we are too torn over the stupid bull**** nothing will ever come out of it. People will work day and night to crack it. But no one will even care if there isn't support.
And for those turning it into a console war, you are idiots as well. It isn't a SONY VS MICROSOFT sort of thing. Just get over it.
It's just a stupid argument altogether. It's the end. The book of time has closed. We need to get on with it.
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There's probably many points that I left out. I don't want a loyal to the crown HDDVD user picking out pieces of my post like "The book of time has closed" and saying "No it hasnt blablabla this is why". I may or may not know that, but it will eventually find its way into my noggin. I really don't want it quoted at all, but I guess if you agree, then that's okay. But I really don't want somebody just jumping up and pointing out the flaws in my post. I know I didn't do a good job like hughjars up there, addressing everybody and their failures or whatever they didn't see, but whatever. The format war is over. Get on with your life.
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18. February 2008 @ 00:55 |
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At the end of the day it is sony vs microsoft and always will be until sony crashes out
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hughjars, i share your POV and totally agree with you, there's no point repeating what you have expressed so elocuently, truly is a shame that Toshiba may abandon HD-DVD. It would be interesting if Toshiba decides to go all the way into upscaling DVD players, if right now their HD-DVD players upscale SD-DVD to HD with excelent results, imagine if they perfect such technology in future SD-DVD players, no doubt would be a hell of a twist in this story, from which Toshiba can emerge victorious easily, since it would be very atractive for the vast mayority of consumers, that are content with SD-DVD, and not interested not willing to invest in a Blu-Ray player, that haven't planned yet to purchase a LCD/Plasma TV, neither wish to replace the titles on their movie colections.
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you know what scares me about this whole thing.........Is that although th HD and Bluray format BATTLE maybe over. I don't believe the format war is over. I think with the way technology is going, I don't think it'll be to long before we see movies being transfered over the internet in mass quantities.(other than file sharing of course)
Anouther thing that really discourages me about the battle being over is now there isn't high def. compition anymore. While Blu and HD were fighting all studios still had to make regular DVDs, if they wanted to sell and get their movies out. Whos to say now that a studio or individual won't come out and say "ok we are only making this in Blu-ray format. Which will force people to upgrade. Ya ya It'll be a long time till that happens. But wasn't this format war supposed to last longer also??
Also I believe one of the reasons Bluray won is because I'm sure it got alot of backing from people like the mf'n MPAA. Why.........to me it seems that Bluray has been harder to crack. Now I know the people at slysoft are working on this I'm sure.(gotta love them) But still, with as much money as the damn MPAA has, and as much as they want to stop pirates, whos to say they didn't push the studios along with bluray pushing them.
And for those that don't think that the studios got kickbacks from blu-ray, I honestly hate to say it, yall are gullible. I'm in sales, I get treated to all types of crap that gets written off in different ways. I get treated to 4 star dinners at least once a week to talk about "new products" a vendor is distrubuting. So far been on 3 cruises, that conviently had a schoolings hours I needed for a lisence I hold. Hell next week I'm going to hawaii for a "seminar" I get tickets to sporting events for "talks" And I don't drop a dime for any of those. Oh and the field I work in is not medical, law, or mass retail. It's Landscape/irrigation. Yes lowly back breaking manual labor, well, at least for my guys.
Now if I get all that crap in my field just think about what happens behind closed doors of those multi-billion dollar companies.
Ok went a little longer than I thought.
Just my thoughts
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
From what i can tell BD+ should be fully cracked by the boys at Slysoft by the time it hits the market in full force lol
- I know that is the hope but - and it's a huge question-mark over this - what happens when they repeatedly revamp/switch the BD+ coding
(as it has been specifically designed to do)?
AACS was broken at a fundamental level (after only the 2nd change) so that each revision to it meant little in the end.
I really doubt BD+ is going to be so easy.
But I do hope you're right.......I'm just not so impressed by the lengthy delays between the claims that a break was coming and anything tangible.
The bottom line remains, BD+ has not been broken.
Anyone saying that it has right now is either badly misinformed or just lying.
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Originally posted by hughjars:
I know that is the hope but - and it's a huge question-mark over this - what happens when they repeatedly revamp/switch the BD+ coding
(as it has been specifically designed to do)?
Simple. Slysoft will do what they do best and release an update just as they do with DVD's.
Originally posted by hughjars:
I really doubt BD+ is going to be so easy.
Why would you doubt a company (Slysoft) that has not yet failed to provide? It's not like they have a track record of not delivering.
Originally posted by hughjars:
The bottom line remains, BD+ has not been broken.
Anyone saying that it has right now is either badly misinformed or just lying.
Again, I guess Slysoft don't know what they are talking about but you do?
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* New (Blu-ray): AnyDVD ripper copies BD+ titles
* New (Blu-ray): Removed "BD+ not supported" warning, as all available BD+ titles can be copied with AnyDVD ripper, or can be watched on HTPC without HDCP using PowerDVD 3104 and AnyDVD. Reports indicate, that burned BD+ titles work on PS3 and standalone players as well.
* Note to Twentieth Century Fox: As you can see, BD+ didn't offer you any advanced security, it just annoyed some of your customers with older players. So could you please cut this crap and start publishing your titles on HD DVD? There are thousands of people willing to give you money.
* Note to people considering to invest in HD media: Please buy HD DVD instead of Blu-ray. HD DVD is much more consumer friendly (e.g., no region coding, AACS not mandatory). Don't give your money to people, who throw your fair-use rights out of the window.
* New (HD DVD & Blu-ray): Support for more MKBv4 titles
* Some minor fixes and improvements
* Updated languages
Taken right from AnyDVD's forum
Why do people continue to give excuses and misinformation, when the real information is FREELY available at your nearest search engine....google. Let alone right here on Afterdawn!
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Originally posted by esrever:
This makes me very angry. I had such high hopes for HD-DVD...now how am I going to use my HD-DVD player when they stop making movies for it. God I hate corporations...
i feel you pain but why did you have high hope for HD DVD, i mean blue is a faster and bigger dvd in it self. And it own by sony and sony market the ps3 together because of blue ray i mean put that together and it 2 against one compare with tosihba.
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LOL imagine if some movie company backed up HDDVD at the last moment .
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You cant be mad at corporations for hd dvd since it was still to early to know if hd dvd would last or fail. It could have been vice versa so i chose just to wait until the results and polls were in and it seems that BLU RAY has won the election. Well i guess in a matter or time Microsoft will probably cancel the production of the HD DVD drives and possible make a Blu ray add on since the format decision is now made.
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Originally posted by error5:
When Toshiba does make an announcement I expect Paramount and Universal to reveal their BluRay plans within one to two weeks.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the announcement may come "early this week."
Probably as important, Universal, Paramount and Warner will be "immediately released from their committments."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12032161...p_us_whats_news
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If Toshiba withdraws from the HD DVD business, Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures and General Electric Co.'s Universal Pictures, both of which support the format exclusively, would be immediately released from their commitments, one of the people familiar with the situation said. Warner Bros., which is obligated to sell HD DVD movies through May under its contract, would also be freed from those terms. All three studios couldn't be immediately reached for comment.
For HD DVD owners:
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said Toshiba will likely continue to provide customer support for HD DVD players that it has sold, but it had no compensation plans in mind for consumers who have already purchased them.
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