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Toshiba confirms dropping of HD DVD
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article published on 19 February, 2008
Toshiba has officially announced that the company will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. After many unofficial announcements by different sources, the company has confirmed in a press release that the development of HD DVD has ended. Toshiba will be reducing the shipments of HD DVD players towards the cessation by the end of March 2008.
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19. February 2008 @ 05:50 |
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Now as long as they stick to this statement we can move on.
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ringwar
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19. February 2008 @ 06:05 |
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Die HDDVD Die!!!
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19. February 2008 @ 06:09 |
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Watch ebay in the next few days for a flood of HD-DVD players. It's the new "must have" paperweight for this season.
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gozilla
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19. February 2008 @ 06:39 |
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wow, this is scary. sony finally won a format war. must be a bit of a kick in the balls for HD-DVD owners.
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19. February 2008 @ 06:49 |
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wow, this is scary. sony finally won a format war. must be a bit of a kick in the balls for HD-DVD owners.
More of a kick in the balls to Fair Use
Sony still Sucks!
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19. February 2008 @ 06:54 |
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This is a sad day for HD DVD. HD DVD had a product that was good for the consumer and good for the business. Congrats to Blue Ray for dominating 1% of the total DVD market. By the time you start to take over the market movies that you can download and play on your tv will take over as the new medium. To the Blue Ray users I wish you the best luck and hope your hardware will keep up with the profile changes that Sony will introduce here within a few weeks after winning.
edit- Now I can't wait for people to rip Blue Ray movies and passing them around on the internet that can be burned onto HD DVD.
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19. February 2008 @ 06:55 |
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Originally posted by BuddhaJ:
This is a sad day for HD DVD. HD DVD had a product that was good for the consumer and good for the business. Congrats to Blue Ray for dominating 1% of the total DVD market. By the time you start to take over the market movies that you can download and play on your tv will take over as the new medium. To the Blue Ray users I wish you the best luck and hope your hardware will keep up with the profile changes that Sony will introduce here within a few weeks after winning.
The world is filled with fascists ^_~
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19. February 2008 @ 07:29 |
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Lol great nice pic :P
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error5
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19. February 2008 @ 08:27 |
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I guess I was wrong. Toshiba didn't announce any BluRay plans at their press event.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/19/live-...rence-in-tokyo/
The numbers they revealed were interesting though:
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Q: How many HD DVD players and recorders, exactly, did you sell?
A: 600,000 players in the US -- 300,000 of which were Xbox 360 HD DVD drives. 100,000 units were sold in Europe. And about 10,000 players and 20,000 recorders in Japan. So about 730,000 units worldwide.
Standalone players/recorders:
US - 600k units
Europe - 100k units
Japan - 30,000 units
Xbox 360 drives (worldwide) - 300k
PCs with HD DVD (worldwide) - 300k
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19. February 2008 @ 08:35 |
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So now blu-ray is the winner, with HD-DVD gone the prices for the blu-ray will not come down in price or the movies. if u want to go to your local store and buy movies for ur ps3 that coast that much then go ahead. HD-DVD was good and at a good price. And yes both formats looks the same, they'er both hi-def. sony new it was going to loose the war, but MONEY played a good part for them. so now the ps3 can now try to sell more than 360. they have no games but they will have movies. LOL thats was sony plan. Why u think the ps3 came down in price within 8 months of its release. no one wanted the high price system with no good games, so just sale it as a blu-ray player.
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19. February 2008 @ 08:35 |
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More of a kick in the balls to Fair Use
I really dont see anything that was unfair. Dealing with reality two companies had format differences and each promoted what they believed to be the better of the two. I think someone just pick up one of those really large family size paks of HATERAIDE at Sam's for a really good price. Microsoft even knew what was going on. Why do you think they really never chose to release an Xbox 360 with the HDdvd built inside for consumers willing to pay the extra $$$. Microsoft had enough sense to at least make an add on. Now they will probably eventually release a BLueRay add on and then when production cost drops enough an xbox 360 with BLUERAY built in.
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19. February 2008 @ 08:40 |
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Originally posted by odb992001:
HD-DVD was good and at a good price.
Part of the problem that HD DVD had was that Toshiba artificially deflated hardware prices to a point that they were losing several hundred dollars per unit sold - not a good proposition for investors and stockholders.
Plus the prices were so low and therefore unprofitable that other CE manufacturers weren't interested in developing and making HD DVD players. This left Toshiba practically alone. Note: the Venturer and the Onkyo were rebadged Toshiba models.
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19. February 2008 @ 08:42 |
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Originally posted by connolly:
Watch ebay in the next few days for a flood of HD-DVD players. It's the new "must have" paperweight for this season.
Why?
will all the HD-DvD movies people have suddenly stop playing?
Will the players people have suddenly stop working?
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19. February 2008 @ 08:55 |
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Originally posted by odb992001:
So now blu-ray is the winner, with HD-DVD gone the prices for the blu-ray will not come down in price or the movies. if u want to go to your local store and buy movies for ur ps3 that coast that much then go ahead.
HDDVD and BD discs in Zaffi or Virgin are the same price...
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19. February 2008 @ 08:59 |
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Personally I wishd HD-DVD had won - I just hate the name "bluray". Sounds retarded...
Plus Blu-Ray discs put their data RIGHT below the surface of the media, so they're much more prone to scratch damage. On the upside, they hold more data.
I'm just glad all the confusion on what format to buy is now over. But "Blu-Ray" still sounds stupid. :P
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19. February 2008 @ 09:11 |
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Originally posted by z0diac:
Plus Blu-Ray discs put their data RIGHT below the surface of the media, so they're much more prone to scratch damage.
I suggest you google "DURABIS."
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19. February 2008 @ 09:27 |
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i find it hard for me to believe that microsoft will come out with a blu ray add on theres no way that sony will let the compatition get a step ahead xbox is already a better game system
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19. February 2008 @ 09:31 |
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Originally posted by connolly:
Watch ebay in the next few days for a flood of HD-DVD players. It's the new "must have" paperweight for this season.
Why?
will all the HD-DvD movies people have suddenly stop playing?
Will the players people have suddenly stop working?
true true, i have the same thinking BUT... you do want the format to continue regardless the fact that existing hardware still works even if the format war is over. Why? Well, for one thing, what if my hd-dvd player is broken by next year? Oh no, the horror... what will happen to my hd-dvd collections? I don't wanna buy a "last gen" hd-dvd player. By next year, there will be new BD players, slicker and cheaper (just like the evolution of dvd players).
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d0nd
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19. February 2008 @ 09:45 |
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great.
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horrabin
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19. February 2008 @ 09:45 |
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Fist, let me clarify that I own players and discs in both formats - I'm a movie fan so it was ridiculous for me to "choose sides" - I want to watch movies in high-def with great sound - simple. However, I do own more blu-ray than hd-dvd, but that's only because of the larger studio backing. Again, simple but, even though I supported both formats, I'm glad this 'war' has finally ended and a single format can be concentrated on.
But I will admit that, after reading posts on this site for months, I absolutely cannot wait to see how some of the fanatical HD-DVD supporters (hughjars, for one) spin this bit of news. Considering sales should speak for themselves, I'm convinced that I'll see some excellent, creative and completely off-the-hook theories including payoffs, manipulation, mafia connections and maybe even alien abductions.
Honestly, I can't wait.
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19. February 2008 @ 09:50 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
what if my hd-dvd player is broken by next year?
- That's highly unlikely - when did you last DVD player die right after the guarantee expired?
Players are not that fragile - unless you ill-treat them - they tend to either work or no work and anything that's going to let go usually does pretty quickly.
Even if it did, buy another one, even cheaper.
You can still get Betamaz, VHS & Laserdisc players, you know?
Or buy another HD DVD player cheap now to tuck away.
The last resort might be to find someone importing HD DVD China players (these are mechanically identical to our HD DVD except for firmwares & a badge on the case).
Anyhoo
Terrible pity about HD DVD.
But I think some people will end up very sorry.
Region coding will now come in everywhere and BD+ will too (no prizes for guessing why they held off using it much so far).
That's the sharing community shafted & the BD ownership broken up into nice little easily exploited groupings.
You do know that sometimes you really should be careful what you wish for, right?
The only good thing as far as I can see is that it's all too late for Blu-ray anyways.
They will not have a mass-market-friendly range of final spec players until well into next year (which means they are 3 years in already).
HD TV services with a DVR are the big deal & selling with almost every HD TV this time around anyways.
Blu-ray has missed the bus on this one, thankfully.
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19. February 2008 @ 09:53 |
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Originally posted by odb992001:
So now blu-ray is the winner, with HD-DVD gone the prices for the blu-ray will not come down in price or the movies. if u want to go to your local store and buy movies for ur ps3 that coast that much then go ahead. HD-DVD was good and at a good price. And yes both formats looks the same, they'er both hi-def. sony new it was going to loose the war, but MONEY played a good part for them. so now the ps3 can now try to sell more than 360. they have no games but they will have movies. LOL thats was sony plan. Why u think the ps3 came down in price within 8 months of its release. no one wanted the high price system with no good games, so just sale it as a blu-ray player.
you know, you made the price drop on the PS3 sounds like a bad thing for consumers... price drops are always good, even i don't like the product, i still applaud for the price drops.
And yes, MONEY is everything, why do you think Sony is pushing Blu-ray so hard? If the hd-dvd camp is doing similar pushing, do you honestly think the war is over by now? No way, at least another year or so (and yes, more confusion among consumers, but at the competition continues, which mean more promotions :)
For the record, i love my PS3 and i don't think there are no games to play. I'm addicted to PJ Monsters at the moment, a $8 game which i certainly get every penny's worth. Of course, given that the PS3 is a media monster, obviously, i don't use it just for games.
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oops!
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19. February 2008 @ 09:58 |
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Originally posted by connolly:
Watch ebay in the next few days for a flood of HD-DVD players. It's the new "must have" paperweight for this season.
Why?
will all the HD-DvD movies people have suddenly stop playing?
Will the players people have suddenly stop working?
well, for one thing, what if my hd-dvd player is broken by next year? Oh no, the horror... what will happen to my hd-dvd collections?
Very true that could happen, but not likely.
But now I guess all the HD-DvD players sitting on store shelves are gonna be nice and cheap. I'll buy another one and keep it in storage.
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Part of the problem that HD DVD had was that Toshiba artificially deflated hardware prices to a point that they were losing several hundred dollars per unit sold - not a good proposition for investors and stockholders.
Agreed. A company can only do that for so long without seeing results. The price drop and the Paramount deal were their only two punches and they didn't have the effect Toshiba had hoped for. They also should have advertised much more aggressively. Well I hope Sony will figure out that the disk prices are what is keeping people away from Hi-def. Dvd set the standard for price and convenience.
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